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Re: Help Build the Resistance Church in Nigeria
« Reply #75 on: November 18, 2025, 04:11:02 AM »
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    • Quote from: JeanBaptistedeCouetus on November 17, 2025, 08:29:56 PM
    Why don’t you reach out to Bishop Zendejas and see if he can provide the finances?
    All help is welcome, obviously. If you know Bishop Zendejas and think that he could help, please take up the cause and promote it. This mission is entirely reliant on outside help. Similarly among other Resistance/Trad bishops/priests/faithful, whoever is in your sphere of influence. I have promoted it tirelessly among those I know... Fr Ortiz is the one who recommended these priests to our charity, and he works closely with Bishop Z. 
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    Re: Help Build the Resistance Church in Nigeria
    « Reply #76 on: November 18, 2025, 01:42:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: Plenus Venter on November 18, 2025, 04:11:02 AM
    All help is welcome, obviously. If you know Bishop Zendejas and think that he could help, please take up the cause and promote it. This mission is entirely reliant on outside help. Similarly among other Resistance/Trad bishops/priests/faithful, whoever is in your sphere of influence. I have promoted it tirelessly among those I know... Fr Ortiz is the one who recommended these priests to our charity, and he works closely with Bishop Z.

    Honestly though Plenus, if we recommend people to go to SSPX Masses, even on a "case by case basis", it's going to be difficult to motivate people to support them. Because by doing things like that we completely undermine the Truth of our position.

    SSPX is morally equivalent to the Resistance by this logic.
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    Re: Help Build the Resistance Church in Nigeria
    « Reply #77 on: November 18, 2025, 09:48:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on November 18, 2025, 01:42:41 PM
    Honestly though Plenus, if we recommend people to go to SSPX Masses, even on a "case by case basis", it's going to be difficult to motivate people to support them. Because by doing things like that we completely undermine the Truth of our position.

    SSPX is morally equivalent to the Resistance by this logic.
    I understand your position Tom. Others share it, like Frs Ortiz, MacDonald and Chazal for example. What this means is, that according to your logic, you will have much more success than I at motivating people to support the Nigerian Mission. Therefore, please help however you can. I will happily take a back seat if another can replace me and do a better job. It's all about giving glory to God and saving souls. Please God it will one day be a jewel in our own crown to have helped save many souls through this work of Catholic Tradition in Africa.

    If you believe that my involvement in this is compromising the Resistance cause, please do not hesitate to send me a message if you want to take over or can suggest an alternative arrangement.
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    Re: Help Build the Resistance Church in Nigeria
    « Reply #78 on: November 18, 2025, 10:04:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on November 18, 2025, 01:42:41 PM
    Honestly though Plenus, if we recommend people to go to SSPX Masses, even on a "case by case basis", it's going to be difficult to motivate people to support them. Because by doing things like that we completely undermine the Truth of our position.

    SSPX is morally equivalent to the Resistance by this logic.
    I don't think this is the way to uphold truth, and I don't think this is Catholic logic.

    In 19th century France, for example, do you think you would have been exonerated by the episcopal authorities from not fulfilling your Sunday obligation because your only option for Mass was one of the countless liberal or Gallican priests? Do you think Pope Pius IX would have commanded you not to attend the Mass of Archbishop Darboy, for example? 

    I think that is a valid comparison? Gallicanism and Ultramontanism are not morally equivalent, nor were they before the First Vatican Council. 
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    Re: Help Build the Resistance Church in Nigeria
    « Reply #79 on: November 20, 2025, 02:05:05 AM »
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    • The works resume...

    There is much to be done, please consider donating.





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    Re: Help Build the Resistance Church in Nigeria
    « Reply #80 on: November 20, 2025, 02:40:16 AM »
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    • Quote from: Plenus Venter on November 18, 2025, 10:04:21 PM
    I don't think this is the way to uphold truth, and I don't think this is Catholic logic.

    In 19th century France, for example, do you think you would have been exonerated by the episcopal authorities from not fulfilling your Sunday obligation because your only option for Mass was one of the countless liberal or Gallican priests? Do you think Pope Pius IX would have commanded you not to attend the Mass of Archbishop Darboy, for example?

    I think that is a valid comparison? Gallicanism and Ultramontanism are not morally equivalent, nor were they before the First Vatican Council.
    Your choice of comparison is arbitrary...
    One could also say that the French people in the 18th century definitely did not fulfill their Sunday obligation rather than attend the Masses of juror priests.
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    Re: Help Build the Resistance Church in Nigeria
    « Reply #81 on: November 20, 2025, 03:40:12 AM »
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    • Quote from: Dominique on November 20, 2025, 02:40:16 AM
    Your choice of comparison is arbitrary...
    One could also say that the French people in the 18th century definitely did not fulfill their Sunday obligation rather than attend the Masses of juror priests.
    Well if you consider your average Society priest to be more akin to a juring priest than the liberal or Gallican priest pre Vatican I, it's no wonder you wouldn't go to their Masses. Enough said. Please use this thread to help our Resistance priests and faithful in Nigeria.
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    Re: Help Build the Resistance Church in Nigeria
    « Reply #82 on: November 20, 2025, 10:18:47 AM »
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    • Quote from: Plenus Venter on November 20, 2025, 03:40:12 AM
    Well if you consider your average Society priest to be more akin to a juring priest than the liberal or Gallican priest pre Vatican I, it's no wonder you wouldn't go to their Masses. Enough said. Please use this thread to help our Resistance priests and faithful in Nigeria.
    Worse than the jurying priests are those who, in our own day, attempt to bind Catholics to a doctrinal compromise. The French Civil Oath betrayed the Crown; the 2012 Declaration betrays Christ the King.

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    Re: Help Build the Resistance Church in Nigeria
    « Reply #83 on: November 20, 2025, 02:24:39 PM »
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    • Ways to give:

    WISE.COM:
    Send Nigerian Naira using Wise.com, it's very easy to set up an account, the exchange rates are good, and the transfer is instant:

    Account details:

    Account holder name
    Onuorah Joseph Emenike

    Account type
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    Bank code
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    Account number
    1521894503

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    Access Bank PLC


    PAYPAL:
    Fr Onuorah wrote to me:
    Greetings in Our Lord Jesus Christ my dear brother...  happy first week of Lent.  I got a PayPal account of a Nigerian Traditional Catholic faithful who is living in US. I explained to her and she promised to send the money to me in Nigerian currency once any donation is sent to her PayPal account.
    PayPal account details: @ChinweOparaji
    Email: f_chinwefausta@outlook.com
    If any donation is sent to the account for our Church building project kindly write me so that I will inform her to forward it to me immediately in Nigerian currency.  Once it reaches me I will inform you...

    Father's email address: onuorajoe93@gmail.com

    USD ACCOUNT:
    Here are all the details required for sending USD to Father's USD account. Platforms I have used in the past include Revolut and xe.com:

    Fr Joseph Emenike ONUORAH
    Email: onuorajoe93@gmail.com

    Bank name: Access Bank
    Account name: Onuorah Joseph Emenike
    Account number: 1521958238
    Sort code: 185008
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    Address: International Market, Orlu, Imo state, Nigeria
    Sending Currency: USD only

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    Re: Help Build the Resistance Church in Nigeria
    « Reply #84 on: November 29, 2025, 08:50:56 PM »
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    • Steady progress is being made but tools are continually being laid down as funds dry up. Please donate if you can as per above details.

    From Fr Onuorah today:

    Good day my dear brother,  hope you are fine today. The pictures I sent you is the inside parapet. The iron bender has formed the iron rods for the parapet. They will be casted with concrete on Monday by the grace of God. God bless.

    Fr Joseph Onuorah.








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    Re: Help Build the Resistance Church in Nigeria
    « Reply #85 on: December 06, 2025, 06:41:43 PM »
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    • Photo from 5 days ago:


    Please donate to help get Fr Onuorah into his new church - details on how to give above, message me if you need help.
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    Re: Help Build the Resistance Church in Nigeria
    « Reply #86 on: Today at 12:36:59 AM »
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    • Today's update from Fr Onuorah: it will be a grand centre for the Traditional Catholic revival in Africa when it is finished. Please help if you can. It is a big expense and there are precious few donors.

    Greetings in Our Lord Jesus Christ my dear brother... Hope you are fine today. We have also completed casting the lintel chaining of the left hand side length of the Church building with the arcs and parapets of the corresponding side altars.
    God bless.
    Fr Joseph Onuorah.


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    Re: Gregorian Mass Opportunity to Support Nigerian Mission
    « Reply #87 on: Today at 09:18:43 AM »
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    • "And whosoever doth not carry his cross and come after me, cannot be my disciple. For which of you having a mind to build a tower, doth not first sit down, and reckon the charges that are necessary, whether he have wherewithal to finish it: Lest, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that see it begin to mock him Saying: This man began to build, and was not able to finish."

    Although I certainly hope they can finish what they have begun, the above concept -- which is uttered by Incarnate Wisdom -- is why I initially expressed my concerns.  Godspeed.
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    Re: Help Build the Resistance Church in Nigeria
    « Reply #88 on: Today at 05:55:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: gladius_veritatis on Today at 09:18:43 AM
    "And whosoever doth not carry his cross and come after me, cannot be my disciple. For which of you having a mind to build a tower, doth not first sit down, and reckon the charges that are necessary, whether he have wherewithal to finish it: Lest, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that see it begin to mock him Saying: This man began to build, and was not able to finish."

    Although I certainly hope they can finish what they have begun, the above concept -- which is uttered by Incarnate Wisdom -- is why I initially expressed my concerns.  Godspeed.
    Thanks for the wisdom, Gladius. I imagine when it comes to the missions there sometimes has to be a leap of Faith, since they cannot help themselves and sometimes opportunities have to be taken when they present themselves. At any rate, that decision was neither yours nor mine, we are here now, and these priests and their apostolate is eminently worthy of our support. Nigeria is the second largest Catholic population in Africa. We are dealing here with the glory of God and the salvation of souls. Please jump on board and do what you can. Many thanks.

    "Caritas Christi urget nos".  A better consideration for the here and now I think is this: charity does not look at the past, but the present. As Padre Pio said: "My God I commend my past to Thy mercy, my present to Thy love, and my future to Thy providence". Here is a practical way to love God in our neighbour and in our priests. I have no doubt these funds could easily be raised if there were a little more zeal on the part of those of us in the developed nations.

    "Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me".
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