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Re: Help Build the Resistance Church in Nigeria
« Reply #90 on: December 14, 2025, 09:12:28 AM »
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    • Quote from: Plenus Venter on December 13, 2025, 05:55:32 PM
    Thanks for the wisdom, Gladius.

    You may thank Our Lord Jesus Christ, as those are His words, not mine.
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    Re: Help Build the Resistance Church in Nigeria
    « Reply #91 on: December 15, 2025, 01:22:39 AM »
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    • Quote from: gladius_veritatis on December 14, 2025, 09:12:28 AM
    You may thank Our Lord Jesus Christ, as those are His words, not mine.
    “O my God, let me remember with gratitude and confess to thee thy mercies towards me.”

    — St. Augustine
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    Re: Help Build the Resistance Church in Nigeria
    « Reply #92 on: December 20, 2025, 05:42:34 PM »
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    • Today's photos from Fr Onuorah:





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    Re: Gregorian Mass Opportunity to Support Nigerian Mission
    « Reply #93 on: December 23, 2025, 09:43:53 AM »
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    • Even if they fail to finish for whatever reason, it's not a bad occupation to have spent time building a church and donating to the cause.
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    Re: Help Build the Resistance Church in Nigeria
    « Reply #94 on: December 23, 2025, 03:56:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: St Giles on December 23, 2025, 09:43:53 AM
    Even if they fail to finish for whatever reason, it's not a bad occupation to have spent time building a church and donating to the cause.
    Undoubtedly.
    All for the glory of God and the salvation of souls.
    Even if it brings just one soul to God - perhaps even that of the donor.
    Look at all the glorious churches and monasteries in England desecrated by the Protestants - were they a waste of time?
    We shall do our part and leave the outcome to Almighty God, praying that it will be a happy one.
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    Re: Gregorian Mass Opportunity to Support Nigerian Mission
    « Reply #95 on: December 23, 2025, 05:05:06 PM »
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    • Quote from: St Giles on December 23, 2025, 09:43:53 AM
    Even if they fail to finish for whatever reason, it's not a bad occupation to have spent time building a church and donating to the cause.

    The "cause" grows as the months pass...buy this land, only $15K more (right), pay for this wall, on and on and on...and one appeal is followed by another, and another, etc.  Throw your money wherever you want, but any sensible man would have already realized that such an investment, especially in 2025, is unwise and it'd be better to use whatever limited resources you have for something else.  Maybe I am a curmudgeon, but these endless appeals at this moment in time seem out of touch with the fiscal reality of the world and anything sensible.
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    Re: Help Build the Resistance Church in Nigeria
    « Reply #96 on: December 23, 2025, 05:07:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: Plenus Venter on December 23, 2025, 03:56:54 PM
    Look at all the glorious churches and monasteries in England desecrated by the Protestants - were they a waste of time?

    :laugh1:  Give. Me. A. Break.  These people clearly haven't the first damn clue about how to plan for and execute a building project.  Comparing this venture to pre-1500s England, etc., is disgraceful.
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    Re: Gregorian Mass Opportunity to Support Nigerian Mission
    « Reply #97 on: December 23, 2025, 08:40:17 PM »
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    • Looks like the land of the free there with seemingly no codes to worry about. Something like that would cost 100 times more over here.

    But, that church is looking a lot bigger than I thought it was going to be. It's a bit thin and sketchy at this point on the upper structure.

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    Re: Help Build the Resistance Church in Nigeria
    « Reply #98 on: December 24, 2025, 09:14:56 PM »
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    • Quote from: gladius_veritatis on December 23, 2025, 05:05:06 PM
    Throw your money wherever you want, but any sensible man would have already realized that such an investment, especially in 2025, is unwise and it'd be better to use whatever limited resources you have for something else.
    Wow...
    You and I are worlds apart in our thinking.
    Happy Christmas Gladius.
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    Re: Help Build the Resistance Church in Nigeria
    « Reply #99 on: December 24, 2025, 09:36:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: gladius_veritatis on December 23, 2025, 05:05:06 PM
    The "cause" grows as the months pass...buy this land, only $15K more (right), pay for this wall, on and on and on...and one appeal is followed by another, and another, etc. 
    Fr Nduefuna's security wall is a separate apostolate, a separate appeal, from a good priest who has more recently converted to Tradition and joined the Resistance cause, being conditionally ordained by Bishop Morgan.

    Do you blame him for wanting to protect his church and faithful from the Islamic threat? If you were in his position would you simply deliver up God's work and faithful to the enemy?

    Fr Peter Scott who is with the SSPX in Nigeria has a similar fortification surrounding the SSPX property that recently required an appeal for repair after floods.

    Caritas Christi urget nos.

    It means something! When we see how much God has loved us and sacrificed Himself for us poor wretched sinners, it urges us to sacrifice ourselves and all we have for Him. It will determine our eternity. "Lord, when did we see thee hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to thee?"...


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    Re: Help Build the Resistance Church in Nigeria
    « Reply #100 on: December 24, 2025, 09:53:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: gladius_veritatis on December 23, 2025, 05:05:06 PM
    Maybe I am a curmudgeon, but these endless appeals at this moment in time seem out of touch with the fiscal reality of the world and anything sensible.
    Which one of these appeals would you describe as out of touch and not sensible?:

    1. A poor priest in a missionary country (Fr Chigbata appeal) wanting help to restore his eyesight so that he can continue to offer Mass and minister to his faithful.

    2. A poor priest in a missionary country (Fr Onuorah appeal), thrown out of the Conciliar Church and onto the street for standing up for Tradition, begging for help to establish a church and priory to operate his apostolate of Tradition.

    3. A poor priest in a missionary country (Fr Nduefuna appeal), similarly persecuted by the Conciliar Church for his stand for Tradition, wanting to protect his church and faithful from the Islamic threat.

    If you have more pressing commitments, please at least stop dissuading other souls of good will from contributing to these worthy charitable causes, and from helping these priests who have made heroic sacrifices to remain faithful to Tradition.
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    Re: Help Build the Resistance Church in Nigeria
    « Reply #101 on: December 25, 2025, 09:32:20 AM »
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    • Quote from: Plenus Venter on December 24, 2025, 09:36:30 PM

    Caritas Christi urget nos.

    It means something! When we see how much God has loved us and sacrificed Himself for us poor wretched sinners, it urges us to sacrifice ourselves and all we have for Him. It will determine our eternity. "Lord, when did we see thee hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to thee?"...
    How many times have we wasted Christs charity and gifts toward us, but does that make Him foolish, less praise-worthy, or regretful for what He has done?

    The more they build that church is less time occupied building and working for secular projects. Maybe it's practice for when the crisis is over.
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    Re: Gregorian Mass Opportunity to Support Nigerian Mission
    « Reply #102 on: January 06, 2026, 07:41:27 PM »
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    • PV, do you know the status of Fr. Chigbata now that Fr. Onuorah has apparently renounced the "Fake Resistance" and +Williamson?
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    Re: Gregorian Mass Opportunity to Support Nigerian Mission
    « Reply #103 on: January 09, 2026, 04:50:13 AM »
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    • Quote from: WorldsAway on January 06, 2026, 07:41:27 PM
    PV, do you know the status of Fr. Chigbata now that Fr. Onuorah has apparently renounced the "Fake Resistance" and +Williamson?

    As I said in the other thread, I believe we all need some clarification about this and where Fr Onuorah actually stands as opposed to how it's been presented in the Recusant
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    Re: Gregorian Mass Opportunity to Support Nigerian Mission
    « Reply #104 on: January 09, 2026, 05:39:55 AM »
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    • Quote from: LakeEnjoyer on January 09, 2026, 04:50:13 AM
    As I said in the other thread, I believe we all need some clarification about this and where Fr Onuorah actually stands as opposed to how it's been presented in the Recusant
    Certainly. While I do not think the Recusant would be flat out lying about this, it's definitely a possibility that those with them took advantage of Fr Onuorah in some way..manipulating his view of the Resistance, +Williamson, etc. AFAIK the few Resistance priests in Nigeria are more or less on their own, it might not be easy for them to get an honest picture of the current state of Tradition,..especially when faced with a some sort of organized anti-"fake resistance" crusade by the "true" resistance 
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