Author Topic: Gregorian Mass Opportunity to Support Nigerian Mission (Read 216426 times)

Matthew · « **Reply #15 on:** June 24, 2025, 11:20:40 AM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on June 24, 2025, 09:40:18 AM

It's interesting that we still refer to them as "missions" ... when my feeling is that we're ALL missionary territory now given the crisis in the Church.

True, and we could get all philosophical about where we should spend our time and resources, or which places should be prioritized.

But something like this I consider "above my pay grade" and I think God's will is best done by letting individual Catholics be moved to donate to whatever "Ecclesiastical causes" they are inspired to.
It's hard to not be biased on something like this, since (as you said) Texas is missionary country as well. Even more so than other US States. In other words, most of the state has *nothing* Traditional Catholic within a 2 hour drive.

A priest getting a Trad chapel going in Texas would be building up from scratch -- just like any other missionary endeavor.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #16 on:** June 24, 2025, 07:21:24 PM »

While all may do with their own money as they see fit, it might be wise to investigate further before doing so. For example, can it be demonstrated that more money/land will not be required just to continue/complete the project?

If you need money to buy land to continue building, how are you going to pay for the continued building itself?

Is this lack of planning a rarity, or is the entire project just a poorly-thought-out black hole?

Modern clerics -- i.e., Traddieland's "heroes" -- are absolutely notorious for being practically clueless and unnecessarily wasteful. I would not give a single dime to any of them without first ascertaining the wisdom of a particular project and the track record of the cleric in charge. They are ALL vagus clerics and, as such, no one is obliged to give them anything.

Do as you see fit, of course, but I would not trust anyone that gets bent out of shape at such inquiries.

Plenus Venter · « **Reply #17 on:** June 24, 2025, 07:40:50 PM »

Quote from: Matthew on June 24, 2025, 11:20:40 AM

True, and we could get all philosophical about where we should spend our time and resources, or which places should be prioritized.

But something like this I consider "above my pay grade" and I think God's will is best done by letting individual Catholics be moved to donate to whatever "Ecclesiastical causes" they are inspired to.
It's hard to not be biased on something like this, since (as you said) Texas is missionary country as well. Even more so than other US States. In other words, most of the state has *nothing* Traditional Catholic within a 2 hour drive.

A priest getting a Trad chapel going in Texas would be building up from scratch -- just like any other missionary endeavor.

We don't have to make it too complicated, we simply do what we can to help those in need who ask an alms in the name of Our Lord, and what a recompense shall be ours on the Day of Judgement when we learn it was Our Lord Himself that we came to assist.

Widows' mites from all over the world would help these priests labouring in the Third World to do what they could never do with their own resources. Taking advantage of a Gregorian Mass would help even more while helping the poor souls at the same time.

Needless to say, Catholic Tradition that refuses to compromise with the Conciliar church is sorely in need of material support all over the world. However, we are not in opposition, and giving to one won't leave the others any poorer.

Luke 6:38

[38] Give, and it shall be given to you: good measure and pressed down and shaken together and running over shall they give into your bosom. For with the same measure that you shall mete withal, it shall be measured to you again.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #18 on:** June 24, 2025, 07:41:30 PM »

Quote from: gladius_veritatis on June 24, 2025, 07:21:24 PM

While all may do with their own money as they see fit, it might be wise to investigate further before doing so. For example, can it be demonstrated that more money/land will not be required just to continue/complete the project?

If you need money to buy land to continue building, how are you going to pay for the continued building itself?

Is this lack of planning a rarity, or is the entire project just a poorly-thought-out black hole?

Modern clerics -- i.e., Traddieland's "heroes" -- are absolutely notorious for being practically clueless and unnecessarily wasteful. I would not give a single dime to any of them without first ascertaining the wisdom of a particular project and the track record of the cleric in charge. They are ALL vagus clerics and, as such, no one is obliged to give them anything.

Do as you see fit, of course, but I would not trust anyone that gets bent out of shape at such inquiries.

OK, but they're taking Mass requests. It's nearly impossible to have Masses offered by US based clergy, much less Gregorian Masses. I knew someone who sent the stipend in to SSPX for the Gregorian Masses, and over 2 years later had to keep pestering them to get them said. Also, with SSPX, you have a 50-50 shot that they'd assign them to an NO priest who has not been conditionally ordained.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #19 on:** June 24, 2025, 07:50:21 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on June 24, 2025, 07:41:30 PM

OK, but they're taking Mass requests.

Then by all means do as you see fit. I am just advocating for people to think, even if only a little, before they act.

FWIW, do not charlatans take Mass requests/stipends? NO clergy still accept them, too. So what?

Doing a little homework is never a bad idea. Carry on...

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