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Offline sspxbvm

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« on: March 03, 2013, 07:41:52 PM »
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  •   This whole case with Pablo has given us all the more assurance that where we stand in the Resistance is the right way to go. Why else would Satan inject his influence so boldly? Into a small movement at that! Thank you God for this additional proof.

       Unfortuantely, Father Pfeiffer now has a great deal of explaining to do. Is he trying to take advantage of the movement? Where are his sermons on Our Lady? They're gone. Why? He seems to be leading the sheep who can see down the path of activism.

       "When everything will seem lost and paralyzed, that will be the happy beginning  of the complete restoration. This will mark the arrival of my hour,  when I, in a  marvelous way, will dethrone the proud and cursed Satan, trampling  him under my  feet and fettering him in the infernal abyss."
                                                                                                                                           -Our Lady of Good Success
       
      Please, Father Pfeiffer, explain yourself. Sooner better than later as the longer you wait the more time to think of a way to deceive the people. Explain yourself!!! (Before you ask, yes, I've written to him. No. No response, yet)

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    « Reply #1 on: March 03, 2013, 08:08:29 PM »
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  • See the thread here. Among other things, being his own exorcist!
    "In our time more than ever before, the greatest asset of the evil-disposed is the cowardice and weakness of good men, and all the vigour of Satan's reign is due to the easy-going weakness of Catholics." -St. Pius X

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    « Reply #2 on: March 03, 2013, 08:49:32 PM »
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  • Perhaps we should just let this alone now. Matthew has solved the problem. Fr. Joe will suffer some fallout from what has come to light, but let's not forget how hard he works, how beautiful is his preaching, and how right the cause for which he fights. He's human, with many distractions and cares to contend with. He did  not take the warning signs or the personal warnings seriously, and so, in the end, the problem had to be taken care of by other men.

    I have never let my longstanding grave concerns about Pablo's behavior interfere with my respect for Fr. Joe and my support of his activities. The exorcism article changes nothing for me with respect to Fr. Joe. I only hope and pray for him that he realizes that he has to pay better attention to warnings when they come from multiple persons in multiple localities, like the warnings he received about Pablo.

    As far as Pablo is concerned, the article does nothing more than confirm my gut hunches about his lack of balance and temperance. That being said, I pray for Pablo and wish him peace of soul. I hope his hiatus from posting will allow him to focus more on the good work he does to help disseminate the sermons and conferences of good priests.

    God bless you all.

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    « Reply #3 on: March 03, 2013, 09:00:12 PM »
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     This whole case with Pablo has given us all the more assurance that where we stand in the Resistance is the right way to go. Why else would Satan inject his influence so boldly? Into a small movement at that!


    Forgive me SSPXBVM, but I often find that such logic is contrary to reason. I don't doubt the righteousness of the resistance, but this sort of thinking may lead people down dangerous roads. I honestly don't know what to make of the Paul Hernandez case at this point, other than viewing it for what it is.


    I have not been as active/ up to date on this sight in recent months, but from what I could tell Mr. Hernandez has been a 'go to guy' for both Pfeiffer and the faithful whilst simultaneously betraying the weirdest of characters in so many of his responses. Why was this so? I am not demanding an explanation of any sort- but it would be good to know why. What he just full of time on his hands and the only who would offer support at this point? Something else?

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    « Reply #4 on: March 03, 2013, 09:09:34 PM »
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       Unfortuantely, Father Pfeiffer now has a great deal of explaining to do. Is he trying to take advantage of the movement? Where are his sermons on Our Lady? They're gone. Why? He seems to be leading the sheep who can see down the path of activism.

       
      Please, Father Pfeiffer, explain yourself. Sooner better than later as the longer you wait the more time to think of a way to deceive the people. Explain yourself!!! (Before you ask, yes, I've written to him. No. No response, yet)


    Pardon my pleonasm but you are either possessed or you are Fr. Rostand's infiltrated agent.

    If Matthew wants to expel people for their own good he should definitely take a close look at you. You're just as harmful to the resistance as anybody else.

    I won't get into the merits or demerits of anyone here but the gang up attack over Pablo with all its detractions and/or calumnies is disgusting and outrageous.

    I wonder if we were not in Lent...


    Ps: I'm not against correcting or even banning people but the way it was done should be reviewed and corrected as much as possible, IMO.


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    « Reply #5 on: March 03, 2013, 10:03:04 PM »
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     This whole case with Pablo has given us all the more assurance that where we stand in the Resistance is the right way to go. Why else would Satan inject his influence so boldly? Into a small movement at that!


    Forgive me SSPXBVM, but I often find that such logic is contrary to reason. I don't doubt the righteousness of the resistance, but this sort of thinking may lead people down dangerous roads. I honestly don't know what to make of the Paul Hernandez case at this point, other than viewing it for what it is.


    I have not been as active/ up to date on this sight in recent months, but from what I could tell Mr. Hernandez has been a 'go to guy' for both Pfeiffer and the faithful whilst simultaneously betraying the weirdest of characters in so many of his responses. Why was this so? I am not demanding an explanation of any sort- but it would be good to know why. What he just full of time on his hands and the only who would offer support at this point? Something else?


    What is this " logic" that is contrary to reason? What dangerous roads?

    And in answer to another post. Yes. Matthew has dealt with that portion of the problem that has to do with his website. However, let's not be dumb sheep and follow blindly. We should demand an explantion as to why Fr. does nothing about you know who after so many years. I need an explanation. I will not lead the people of our little Resistance mission- renting the hall, making hundreds of phone calls to announce the priest coming, etc ...I cannot do this knowing the close relationship Father has with that man and that man's fascination with the Devil. Somethings amiss.

    I Posted this thread hoping Father might somehow hear of it and make answer.

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    « Reply #6 on: March 03, 2013, 10:36:04 PM »
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  • I don't think Fr. Pfieffer should be held accountable for Pablo's online rants. A priest knows many people, and not all of them are saints.Not unlike celebrities who attract people at both ends of the spectrum; they aren't to blame when a fan does something over-the top to get their attention. People were scandalized by Christ himself because He chose to associate with known sinners. But no one can say He was responsible for their sins. Did His friendship with those sinners cause some listeners to turn away from His message while He was here on Earth? Maybe so, but it didn't seem to worry Him. I doubt that Pablo is single-handedly capable of bringing down the Resistance because of his impassioned and often incomprehensible posts. That said, I think you have probably done the best thing, Matthew.

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    « Reply #7 on: March 04, 2013, 09:49:53 AM »
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     This whole case with Pablo has given us all the more assurance that where we stand in the Resistance is the right way to go. Why else would Satan inject his influence so boldly? Into a small movement at that!


    Forgive me SSPXBVM, but I often find that such logic is contrary to reason. I don't doubt the righteousness of the resistance, but this sort of thinking may lead people down dangerous roads. I honestly don't know what to make of the Paul Hernandez case at this point, other than viewing it for what it is.


    I have not been as active/ up to date on this sight in recent months, but from what I could tell Mr. Hernandez has been a 'go to guy' for both Pfeiffer and the faithful whilst simultaneously betraying the weirdest of characters in so many of his responses. Why was this so? I am not demanding an explanation of any sort- but it would be good to know why. What he just full of time on his hands and the only who would offer support at this point? Something else?


    What is this " logic" that is contrary to reason? What dangerous roads?

    And in answer to another post. Yes. Matthew has dealt with that portion of the problem that has to do with his website. However, let's not be dumb sheep and follow blindly. We should demand an explantion as to why Fr. does nothing about you know who after so many years. I need an explanation. I will not lead the people of our little Resistance mission- renting the hall, making hundreds of phone calls to announce the priest coming, etc ...I cannot do this knowing the close relationship Father has with that man and that man's fascination with the Devil. Somethings amiss.

    I Posted this thread hoping Father might somehow hear of it and make answer.


    Making phone calls, renting halls, this all sounds like women's work.
    All the while I'm sure your local Ordinary doesn't even know your name.

    Fr. Pfeiffer need not answer to public sinners or sewing circle tough guys.



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    « Reply #8 on: March 04, 2013, 11:44:51 AM »
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    . . . [Fr. Pfeiffer] did not take the warning signs or the personal warnings seriously, and so, in the end, the problem had to be taken care of by other men.

    So that's it?  The problem has been taken care of by Matthew's banishing him?  Problem solved?  Little more has been taken care of than the aesthetics of this forum.  Meanwhile this nut-job Pablo is still on the loose doing a bang-up PR job IRL for the Resistance.

    I personally do not attribute so high a level of connection between him and Fr. Pfeiffer as he has convinced most of you exists.  His postings and his interview scream that he is a narcissistic dramatizer to the Nth degree.  Maybe he occasionally drives for the good Father.  But I suppose any business conducted in his presence was only because nobody thought he'd be able to remember two syllables afterwards.

    But that's beside the point.  People gobble up what an animated bull#####er like Pablo is spreading, going around grandiosing his "connection" with the good Father.  So as long as this is going in IRL, the problem has not been taken care of and it is not the end of the problem.

    I am grateful that Matthew banned him.  That absolutely needed done.  But I applaud the additional efforts, too, to make certain Father Pfeiffer is made aware of all of this, as the IRL problem is hardly solved by his forum banishment.

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    « Reply #9 on: March 04, 2013, 11:55:54 AM »
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  • It's true: only the forum is affected. Not until Fr. Pfeiffer clarifies the situation between him and Pablo will this incident be for the better or worse.
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    « Reply #10 on: March 04, 2013, 03:21:23 PM »
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  • Let's not exaggerate either way.

    Banning Pablo isn't a complete solution.

    But it IS a huge part of the solution. Why do so many people NATIONWIDE know who a man named "Pablo" is?  

    Because he posted prolifically, with quite a bit of personality, on Ignis Ardens and later on, CathInfo.com.

    If he didn't have that pulpit, he'd only be known by the relative handful of people who have made the trip to Kentucky, Phoenix, etc. which is a small fraction of those who currently have "Pablo" as a household name.
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    « Reply #11 on: March 05, 2013, 10:53:43 AM »
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  • Gee whiz, what do you guys want to do, "string 'im up?" Try to force his priest into publicly disowning him? I think Banning him is enough for now. At most I think  Fr Pfieffer might make a statement reminding lay-people of the reasons they should not take it upon themselves to attempt exorcisms. I am for some reason reminded of the possessed woman who was following Paul in Acts 16, who shouted the truth, but in an annoying way. Yet, Paul did not have her driven away, he (eventually) fixed the problem. I am not sure Fr. Pfeiffer can fix this problem with Pablo. He (Fr.) personally told me that he sometimes has to (figuratively) smack him around. You think he should try a blackjack? Other than trapping Pablo in the trunk of his car, there is not much he can do to control Pablo's online or IRL behavior any more than he could mine or yours. Publicly renouncing Pablo won't silence the Resistance's detractors, it will only give them more ammunition since it will, most likely, injure the reputations of both parties.

     

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