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Re: Going to SSPX makes you stupid
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2026, 01:19:27 PM »

In your book are all “sedes” lunatics or just the dogmatic variety?

This is the understanding of most of the resistance and it's clergy. We have made this distinction for years.
But your experience of the resistance is probably limited to this web forum.

Re: Going to SSPX makes you stupid
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2026, 06:49:33 PM »
What a special grace this Tom character has. God has brought him forth to be the judge of ALL SSPX faithful to be stupid.
I'm so happy we have such a saintly man on this forum.  Maybe the great and mighty Tom will assist at the last judgment and he alone will decide who gets to go to heaven.  I forgot that only smart people like Tom gets to see God. Or maybe He will be the only one being hand picked by the Almighty for such a high and holy position.
Isn't that right Tom


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Re: Going to SSPX makes you stupid
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2026, 09:12:26 AM »
THERE IS NO SUBSTANCE behind their position BECAUSE IT'S POLITICAL NOT DOCTRINAL.

They pretend to be in communion with the Pope because they want the money necessary to operate and they don't want their novus ordite donators to become scared of not being in communion with the Pope.

That is all there is to it and your so-called "Resistance" is the same.
No, it's always been about the needs of the faithful and supplying the sacraments. And Fr. Pagliarani just issued a Declaration of Faith to bring the issue back to doctrine. A very strong position on doctrine. What evidence is there that money comes from the diocese to the SSPX, or from the collections to Rome? They operate independent financial structures. Each church has its own local corp. A percentage of SSPX collection goes to SSPX headquarters, yes, but not to Rome or the diocese. Why would the diocese give money to an organization that is not "in communion"? I keep hearing this accusation, and nobody can back it up by facts. It's all hearsay. 

If they were worried about excommunication, loss of parishioners, financial support, etc. the SSPX would have postponed the consecrations. I think it's very clear that they care about the faith and the faithful, and not about "heads in the pews and money in the basket". I'm not saying that everything is right as rain in the SSPX. It has its systemic problems like veins of modernism seeping in, but what organization is perfect? Any human organization is going to have problems. Yet the Holy Ghost will continue to guide the church in spite of the frailty of man. They need prayers and not criticisms. The Resistance is even more fragmented and chaotic though their work is commendable. They need prayers also.   

Re: Going to SSPX makes you stupid
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2026, 11:44:54 AM »
What a special grace this Tom character has. God has brought him forth to be the judge of ALL SSPX faithful to be stupid.
I'm so happy we have such a saintly man on this forum.  Maybe the great and mighty Tom will assist at the last judgment and he alone will decide who gets to go to heaven.  I forgot that only smart people like Tom gets to see God. Or maybe He will be the only one being hand picked by the Almighty for such a high and holy position.
Isn't that right Tom
One hundred percent.
And dont be humble about the special grace you have received to understand this....

Re: Going to SSPX makes you stupid
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2026, 11:54:41 AM »
No, it's always been about the needs of the faithful and supplying the sacraments. And Fr. Pagliarani just issued a Declaration of Faith to bring the issue back to doctrine. A very strong position on doctrine. What evidence is there that money comes from the diocese to the SSPX, or from the collections to Rome? They operate independent financial structures. Each church has its own local corp. A percentage of SSPX collection goes to SSPX headquarters, yes, but not to Rome or the diocese. Why would the diocese give money to an organization that is not "in communion"? I keep hearing this accusation, and nobody can back it up by facts. It's all hearsay.

If they were worried about excommunication, loss of parishioners, financial support, etc. the SSPX would have postponed the consecrations. I think it's very clear that they care about the faith and the faithful, and not about "heads in the pews and money in the basket". I'm not saying that everything is right as rain in the SSPX. It has its systemic problems like veins of modernism seeping in, but what organization is perfect? Any human organization is going to have problems. Yet the Holy Ghost will continue to guide the church in spite of the frailty of man. They need prayers and not criticisms. The Resistance is even more fragmented and chaotic though their work is commendable. They need prayers also. 
To be perfectly honest, I am unsure myself of how exactly the SSPX operates and gets the money necessary to operate. I suspect that rich donators would be scared off if the SSPX wasn't in communion with Rome and outright refused to name the "Popes" in the canon of the mass, however, this is based on my understanding of the psychology of rich people. Rich people do not like taking risks, especially if the consequences for being wrong are severe. 

It seems to me that for several different reasons (even though it's obvious that the teachings of Vatican II Popes are false) many Catholics are unsure about the exact canonical status of those Vatican II "Popes" and they are afraid that they could be wrong. They are afraid of rashly taking a position and to damn their souls because of that. That is perfectly understandable and God will probably not fault them since we cannot expect every single Catholic to be a theologian. 

That position is understandable for laity and those who are ignorant on theology. On the other hand, the SSPX hierarchy whom I believe have received adequate education on theology should know better. 

I criticize the SSPX hierarchy because I believe they are being too uncertain despite that we've had more than ample evidence that Francis was neither Catholic nor even Christian to be honest. I recall that Francis wrote a book where he described Christian traditionalists as being mentally ill.

He said in the book Spero : « This rigidity is often accompanied by elegant and costly tailoring, lace, fancy trimmings, rochets. Not a taste for tradition but clerical ostentation. These ways of dressing up sometimes conceal mental imbalance, emotional deviation, behavioral difficulties, a personal problem that may be exploited. »

In any case, accusing people of only criticizing and not praying for their enemies is contrary to reason. One does not oppose the other.

It is a moral obligation to correct one's brothers when they commit a wrong : 

«  For if I see my brother in sin and pass it by, I have made his sin my own. » 

But, one can never pray too much, so asking for more prayers cannot be faulted.