The English-language version of the SSPX's Letter 81 to friends and benefactors says that that the goal of Bishop Fellay's new Rosary Crusade is this:

2) For the return to Tradition within the Church.

But the French-language edition says this:

2) Pour le retour de la Tradition dans l’Eglise.

The primary meaning of this ambiguous French phrase is:

For the return of the Traditionalist movement to the Church.

Usually, when a Frenchman prays for the return of Modernist Rome to Tradition, the return of Modernist Rome to the Catholic Faith - the conversion of Modernist Rome - he says, "Le retour de Rome à la Tradition, le retour de Rome à la Foi catholique, la conversion de Rome."

Both versions imply that the Conciliar Church is a part of the Catholic Church, which, sadly, has been Neo-SSPX doctrine for some time now. But in addition, the French version clearly implies that that those who are not recognized by the Conciliar Church are outside this one Church, Catholic and Conciliar, since they need to "return" to it. So since the SSPX is not recognized by Modernist Rome, it is not a part of the Catholic Church? No wonder the Neo-SSPX's priority number one is to get regularized!

Over here in France, a number of people are riled up about this intention of the new Rosary Crusade. The Dominicans of Avrillé broke their silence on the multiple errors of Bishop Fellay and his followers last Sunday, and announced to their congregation that they would not be participating in Bishop Fellay's new Crusade, because they are already a part of the Catholic Church and they do not need to "return" to it.

Of course, since, in the French version of this letter, the second goal is ambiguous, there's a secondary meaning - included on purpose for those who steadfastly refuse to see problems in the words of their superiors if there's any possible way to twist those words into a Catholic meaning. That second meaning is the one in the English version.

Menzingen seeks regularisation with the mainstream because it sees the mainstream as the Church. The SSPX thus becomes another protestant group knocking on the door for admittance. It has its own take on tradition and wants Rome to adopt it but will not view her differently if she does not.

Catholics keep trouping to Society chapels in the knowledge that their priests are awaiting and preparing for conciliar approval. It is a joke. They have a duty  to ask them what church do they serve and to act accordingly. Unfortunately, the laity have been softened up for the inevitable over the years and the "nothing has changed" mantra is part of this process. Nothing changes until things change or when folk are asleep or turn a blind eye.        

I must admit that I am disappointed with the lack of action on the part of the Dominicans of Avrille.  They need to step up to the plate.  I hope this is the beginning of them doing so.

EM- I'm confused. You hope what 'is the beginning of them doing so'? Thanks.

I must admit that I am disappointed with the lack of action on the part of the Dominicans of Avrille.  They need to step up to the plate.  I hope this is the beginning of them doing so.

Says the (single?) man with access to Resistance masses to the family man with convert wife and three (four by next month) children who has yet to have a Resistance mass within 500 miles available to him?  :rolleyes:

Quote from: Ecclesia Militans

And to vehemently defend their continued attendance is sad.

Says the (single?) man with access to Resistance masses to the family man with convert wife and three (four by next month) children who has yet to have a Resistance mass within 500 miles available to him?  :rolleyes:

Corrected above in bold.

The very different version of the official website of the SSPX in South America:


"Por el retorno de Roma a la Tradición de la Iglesia"

"For the return of Roma to the Tradition of the Church."

http://www.fsspx-sudamerica.org/fraternidad/cruzada2014.php
http://www.fsspx-sudamerica.org/fraternidad/carta81.php

It's a little less ambiguous, but the wording is very different. Incredible !

Wow. So we have "the return of Tradition to the Church," "the return to Tradition within the Church," and "the return of Rome to Tradition." What do the German and Polish versions say? What incoherence!

I had read on La Sapinière that some districts had changed Goal No. 2 on their websites one week after the Rosary Crusade was announced, having translated it correctly at first - i.e., with the original, evil intention. Was that the case of the South American district?

According to a member of this forum who is fluent in Polish, the Polish version of the Rosary Crusade says, "For the recognition of the rights of Tradition within the Church."

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The very different version of the official website of the SSPX in South America:


"Por el retorno de Roma a la Tradición de la Iglesia."

"For the return of [Rome] to the Tradition of the Church."


http://www.fsspx-sudamerica.org/fraternidad/cruzada2014.php

http://www.fsspx-sudamerica.org/fraternidad/carta81.php

I like this one the best.  If Rome would return to Tradition that would be great.

Are we free to pick which one we use, or is our religious liberty very, very limited?

Would we be "disobedient" if we follow the official SSPX website of a district that isn't local for us?  

Is this the Menzingen UNITY plan in action?  

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