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Re: GIRM Compatible SSPX Chapels
« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2022, 08:42:38 PM »
I knew the Cristo Rey crucifix existed WAY before the Novus Ordo, though I haven't immediately found a history of it.  The picture below is from St. Joseph's Church on Capital Hill in Seattle.  The parish was established in 1907 and the current church built in 1930, dedicated to Christ the King.  My parents were married there in 1950, I and my siblings were baptized there, my maternal grandparents and several other maternal relatives have been buried from this church.  I'm sorry I haven't found more of a close up (I hope to take a trip to Seattle in September and will try and take one) but behind the High Altar is a large mosaic of Christ the King flanked by St. Ignatius Loyola and St. Francis Xavier.  Below the image of Christ the King and above the tabernacle is a Cristo Rey crucifix.  At one time there was a large and very traditional crucifix that hung on the side wall on the epistle side.




Thank you.   That's interesting.

At a time in history when it's important to make a clear distinction against modernism and especially the need to elicit contrition for one's sins by gazing upon the crucifix, contemplating Our Lord's sufferings and uniting our sufferings to His, that doesn't seem like a good choice for a new SSPX chapel.  :/

Re: GIRM Compatible SSPX Chapels
« Reply #36 on: May 10, 2022, 09:38:30 PM »
Dallas sspx bought land to build.
Hope it doesn't turn into a horrible place like others shown in this thread.


Re: GIRM Compatible SSPX Chapels
« Reply #37 on: May 11, 2022, 12:11:11 AM »
My take is that the new-sspx leadership is mostly from Europe and these new chapels give them the opportunity to a) mix-n-match european architecture styles as part of a pet-project of creativity, which is why a "budget" typically isn't followed, b) inflate their european egos, which typically looks down on all things american, c) control the people by introducing non-american but european liturgical "norms" (i.e. norms from the 1930s-50s, when europe was far, far more liberalized than america) and prepare them for the indult. 


I've seen sspx chapels do the stations of the cross starting on the right hand (epistle) side and finishing on the left.  This must be european because i've always seen it start on the left/gospel side and finish on the right.  I don't think there's a liturgical rule, but switching things "just because" is petty and wrong, imo.  The liturgical norms of a country are important; not everything should be european style.

I think it boils down to where the priest comes from. American SSPX priests based in other countries are also known to introduce certain customs peculiar to the States.

Re: GIRM Compatible SSPX Chapels
« Reply #38 on: May 11, 2022, 12:21:59 AM »
Menzingen will spend $70 million for a trophy seminary near DC or $40 million for a monument Church in St. Mary’s podunk…

But rent a respectable mission chapel site in Japan to catechize a country of lost souls?  Never!
Unfortunately Japan does not have as many Catholics to minister to, while the US district has many more faithful and I might add, better-off financially overall. I think it makes sense to start prudently.

Re: GIRM Compatible SSPX Chapels
« Reply #39 on: May 11, 2022, 12:26:03 AM »
You will know them by their altars. :laugh1:

But seriously, it makes one wonder where the apparent windfall of money to build these new chapels is coming from.  In Virginia alone, there is the seminary (with more construction to be done on the main chapel) and the D.C. and Front Royal missions have plans for new construction.  The D.C. mission had acquired a former protestant church and significant renovations have been completed but apparently, "they" want to build a new chapel from scratch on the property as well.

In a presentation on the seminary that Fr. Haynos gave to our chapel, he cited an "internal loan from Menzingen" as the source of funding for the seminary projects.  Alas, it must be from those mysterious "generous benefactors". 

If one uses common sense and reasoning, it is more likely some form of payback for being obedient to the Bergoglian regime:  no condemnation of the NWO Plandemic, capitulation to the novus ordo covid restrictions, neutrality on the clot shot, falling all over themselves about Francis' stunt consecration, etc., etc.  Either that, or the hierarchy has been infiltrated and they truly think all those decisions were good ones.

Don Pagliarani did mention that the SSPX chapels grew tremendously during the last 2 years as many Novus Ordo and Indult folks sought refuge when the diocesan churches were closed, even at locations where the governments did not force them to do so.