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Offline Mark 79

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Re: GIRM Compatible SSPX Chapels
« Reply #40 on: May 11, 2022, 12:39:43 AM »

Well, …

So… the snake is still slithering. False accusations are also so evil!

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Started Sept. 25 2021, under topic health reply #16,#17.  Mark79 gave me a personnel reply/advice placental cell injection, instead of hip replacement. (For my left hip, severe arthritis.  I researched on his advice and I replied on forum of what I found and I also replied to Mark79 more than once, to get placental cells, you must have a baby first and I did not like what I was reading on my searches.




Yes, after the baby is delivered the PLACENTA (NOT BABY) used to be discarded. For about the last decade it has become common to save the cord blood, membranes, Wharton's Jelly, PLACENTAL (NOT BABY) stem cells, and exosomes. Sometimes the parents cryo (ultra low temperature freeze) the tissues for the baby's use later in life. Sometimes carefully screened (medically and socially) mothers from repeat C-sections donate some or all of the tissue.

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I disagree, and gave to Mark79 links with articles saying that different stages of of a baby, such as 3 months in womb were best for harvesting and he still said it was ok!





That is a complete fabrication. I did not, do not, and never will say it is "OK" to harvest tissue from a BABY in utero, 3-months gestation or otherwise.

I only support ("say OK") harvesting PLACENTAL (NOT BABY) tissue after the baby is born from appropriate and willing donors.

As soon as you were advised of your false accusation almost 3 weeks ago, you should have retracted your accusation and apologized.

You are welcome to have a hip replacement. You are welcome to eschew a PLACENTAL (NOT BABY) injection as many do to avoid hip replacement surgery.  You are NOT welcome to falsely accuse me of approving the harvesting of BABY parts whether in utero or post-partum.

"Not liking" what you read (and misunderstand) is NOT a legitimate excuse to make a false accusation.

Re: GIRM Compatible SSPX Chapels
« Reply #41 on: May 11, 2022, 07:24:52 AM »
Unfortunately Japan does not have as many Catholics to minister to, while the US district has many more faithful and I might add, better-off financially overall. I think it makes sense to start prudently.
$70/$40 million is prudent??


Re: GIRM Compatible SSPX Chapels
« Reply #42 on: May 11, 2022, 08:05:44 AM »

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Don Pagliarani did mention that the SSPX chapels grew tremendously during the last 2 years as many Novus Ordo and Indult folks sought refuge when the diocesan churches were closed, even at locations where the governments did not force them to do so.
That does not explain the tens of millions of dollars being pumped into these new mega churches, some of which had been under construction or planned before the "pandemic".   You just can't raise that amount of money in a couple of years, even if you double the amount of faithful attending a chapel. 


The narrative that the sspx chapels were different during the lockdowns as promoted on their website, as somehow remaining open, was a stretch.  We had no Mass, including during Easter, they removed the holy water, restricted the amount of people, roped off pews, posted signs saying masks were required, etc.  How is that different from the local NO church?  I think there was a coordinated advertising campaign to make it seem different, when in fact, they followed the restrictions to a tee, just as Fr. Wegner said they would.  The sspx response to the lockdowns was as unCatholic as the novus ordo sect.  Remember the mocking of anyone who dared question the seriousness and truthfulness of the deadly pandemic or anyone who may have seen that it was a NWO takeover on the podcast with Fr. Paul Robinson?  When I saw that, I knew that the sspx was not only going to fold like a cheap suit but was actively engaged in the whole charade. 



Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: GIRM Compatible SSPX Chapels
« Reply #43 on: May 11, 2022, 10:23:21 AM »

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I think it boils down to where the priest comes from. American SSPX priests based in other countries are also known to introduce certain customs peculiar to the States.
This is ridiculous as well.  As they say, when in rome...

Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: GIRM Compatible SSPX Chapels
« Reply #44 on: May 11, 2022, 10:24:32 AM »
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The narrative that the sspx chapels were different during the lockdowns as promoted on their website, as somehow remaining open, was a stretch.  We had no Mass, including during Easter, they removed the holy water, restricted the amount of people, roped off pews, posted signs saying masks were required, etc.
Some chapels were not this extreme.  Probably depended on how much each priest believed covid.  And also depended on how liberal the state was.