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Giant packet from SSPX
« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2013, 12:41:03 PM »
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  • So evidently, the people getting this packet are targeted. It's not just everyone getting these. They're being sent to certain people. The people I'm in contact with haven't gotten one, so I think this garbage is being sent to a very targeted group of individuals.
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,


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    « Reply #31 on: June 11, 2013, 01:09:07 PM »
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    Has anyone realized yet --

    The SSPX must be hurting, or at least fearful of what the Resistance could do, to spend such resources in their war against it.

    * All the propaganda ("Against the Rumors", propagating the sermon, "Resistance to What?", etc.)
    * Plane tickets for Accordista priests to visit far-flung areas to keep the sheep in line
    * Legal fees to threaten various parishioners
    etc.

    * Don't forget the CDs and the required 'announcements' of their
        availability in the parish bookstores - part of a fundraiser plan to
        prop up this 'friendly fire war' against faithful Catholics in their ranks,
    * and the re-branding campaign - sure, it was started before the
        Resistance got off the ground, but it continues apace with the re-
        building of websites, re-making of the Angelus, and all the Society-
        wide design look of stationery, brochures and promos.


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    They seem to be spending a lot of attention, time, and money on the Resistance.


    The fact that they're reacting means they see it as a threat.

    They don't realize all the money they spend AGAINST the Resistance
    only goes to make the Resistance stronger.  "But if it be of God, you
    cannot overthrow it..." (v. 39).

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    Quote from: Acts chapter 5
    [34] But one in the council rising up, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, respected by all the people, commanded the men to be put forth a little while. [35] And he said to them: Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what you intend to do, as touching these men.

    [36] For before these days rose up Theodas, affirming himself to be somebody, to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all that believed him were scattered, and brought to nothing. [37] After this man, rose up Judas of Galilee, in the days of the enrolling, and drew away the people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as consented to him, were dispersed. [38] And now, therefore, I say to you, refrain from these men, and let them alone; for if this council or this work be of men, it will come to nought; [39] But if it be of God, you cannot overthrow it, lest perhaps you be found even to fight against God.


    Isn't it ironic that the "kindler, gentler" SSPX is focusing on the "positives of Tradition" while not being combative against Vatican II, Modernism, and the Conciliar Church hierarchy, all the while using a jackboot on their own members who dare to stand up for the original principles of the SSPX?



    As Fr. Pfeiffer says, you know it's a DOCTRINAL issue because
    it comes with PUNISHMENTS.  It comes with CONDEMNATION.  
    It comes with EXPULSIONS and TRANSFERS and GUARDED
    OBSERVATION (aka "being on probation").


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    So they not only laid down their arms in the fight against Modernism, but they take up these same weapons and fire them at their own side! What vile treachery.



    Excellent point, Matthew!  In laying down their arms against
    the unclean spirit of Vat.II and the Newmass and false
    ecuмenism and religious liberty and false collegiality and
    indifferentism and all the rotten errors of these new popes
    (the list is too long to mention!), the 'kinder gentler SSPX"
    not only gives up the fight, but is DETERMINED to do so,
    and
    we don't need to hear them say as much because they prove
    it's true when they pick up their arms to friendly fire them
    against their own
    -- against good Catholics who dare to
    continue the traditional Church Militant by fighting in the open
    against heresy and scandal.




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    So evidently, the people getting this packet are targeted. It's not just everyone getting these. They're being sent to certain people. The people I'm in contact with haven't gotten one, so I think this garbage is being sent to a very targeted group of individuals.





    My suspicion is, it's the mail list that is earmarked for having been
    those who have previously sent large contributions or substantial
    regular ones.  IOW - the demographic that has shown itself to be
    capable of significant extortion -- I mean, participation.



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    « Reply #32 on: June 11, 2013, 02:40:47 PM »
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  • For the N-SSPX to send out these "Hit Packets" to everyone, at a considerable cost of money, shows that no one has been buying their propaganda pieces they have been conducting throughout the past year.  

    They now have to shove it in our mail boxes to plead with us to believe them that they are just being "kind and gentle" in wanting to bring us into the dungeons of apostate Rome.

    I have a question?

    Menzingen and Fr. Rostand, how about staying on ABL's tried and true position of Jesus Christ alone, without submitting to the other religion with it's admixture of other gods?

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    « Reply #33 on: June 11, 2013, 03:11:59 PM »
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  • I haven't given, honestly, but $10 to the SSPX the entire time I've been there in "voluntary" contributions. (Edit: The entire time I've received any sacraments from them. My entire life. Father Bolduc was not in the SSPX. I'm not talking about Saint Michael's donations in the past. I'm talking about when I was confirmed, or visiting on vacation an SSPX church.)

    I think they know I'm talking to people at one of their "volatile" parishes, and they hope to get me to shut up. I'm hearing it from one of my best friend's sons, talking to my brother, to tell me to shut up. I'm hearing it from others that I should just shut up. Now, my phone calls are not being returned from a certain person I thought I could count on...

    They see me as a threat. Maybe the ripple effect of my not shutting up may be costing them money.

    THIS IS NOT AN SSPX PARISH, as much as they want it to be.... YET. And as long as it isn't, I'm NOT going to shut up!
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,

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    « Reply #34 on: June 11, 2013, 03:38:13 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
    Has anyone realized yet --

    The SSPX must be hurting, or at least fearful of what the Resistance could do, to spend such resources in their war against it.

    * All the propaganda ("Against the Rumors", propagating the sermon, "Resistance to What?", etc.)
    * Plane tickets for Accordista priests to visit far-flung areas to keep the sheep in line
    * Legal fees to threaten various parishioners
    etc.

    They seem to be spending a lot of attention, time, and money on the Resistance.

    Quote from: Acts chapter 5
    [34] But one in the council rising up, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, respected by all the people, commanded the men to be put forth a little while. [35] And he said to them: Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what you intend to do, as touching these men.

    [36] For before these days rose up Theodas, affirming himself to be somebody, to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all that believed him were scattered, and brought to nothing. [37] After this man, rose up Judas of Galilee, in the days of the enrolling, and drew away the people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as consented to him, were dispersed. [38] And now, therefore, I say to you, refrain from these men, and let them alone; for if this council or this work be of men, it will come to nought; [39] But if it be of God, you cannot overthrow it, lest perhaps you be found even to fight against God.


    Isn't it ironic that the "kindler, gentler" SSPX is focusing on the "positives of Tradition" while not being combative against Vatican II, Modernism, and the Conciliar Church hierarchy, all the while using a jackboot on their own members who dare to stand up for the original principles of the SSPX?

    So they not only laid down their arms in the fight against Modernism, but they take up these same weapons and fire them at their own side! What vile treachery.


    Yeah, they are obviously worried the SSPX-Resistance is growing.

    They must have some other index to gauge this, besides their normal donation receipts.  

    Maybe the defection of some key people?

    I would expect that after the neoSSPX "Branding" scandal takes full effect, they will become even more desperate.  

    Branding is not a dinner table topic that your average neoSSPX trad could defend easily.




    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    « Reply #35 on: June 11, 2013, 03:52:00 PM »
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    Yeah, they are obviously worried the SSPX-Resistance is growing.

    They must have some other index to gauge this, besides their normal donation receipts.

    Maybe the defection of some key people?

    I would expect that after the neoSSPX "Branding" scandal takes full effect, they will become even more desperate.

    Branding is not a dinner table topic that your average neoSSPX trad could defend easily.




    Dinner table conversation needs to be affected far and wide.  

    When you print out copies of the Corpus Christi sermon of Fr. Girouard,
    be sure to write on the last page "www.sacrificium.org"
    so the recipient can go to Fr's. excellent website.  

    When we made the upload files the new website was not quite
    operational yet, so we didn't put that on the front page like it should be.

    We can expect a lot of great progress to arise from the addition of
    Fr. Girouard to the ranks of the Resistance.  His arrival is a signal grace.
    And it's something Menzingen did its best to prevent.  They tried to get
    him tucked away and under guard in a cush rectory and nice church,
    but he was wise to their schemes, and he even averted their
    interference with his departure by going incognito, wearing civilian
    clothes and avoiding all meetings with those who know him.

    I hope some day he can write an autobiography.  


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    « Reply #36 on: June 11, 2013, 04:04:09 PM »
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    Wow. They've really tried going out of their way this time. I got a giant packet from the SSPX, including fancy CDs of Father Themann's talks, and even a summary and a long letter from Bishop Fellay. Anyone else get this garbage (cause that's where it went?)


    I got one too!

    http://satiricalgoo.blogspot.com/2013/06/new-package-of-neo-sspx.html






    Wow! ....this story turned AF into a creative wildman.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    « Reply #37 on: June 11, 2013, 04:32:05 PM »
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  • Just got ours today.

    Was wondering whether or not we would get one.

    We're not even registered at our chapel.

    Signed up for Regina Coeli a while back.

    They're spending a lot of money on this, and sending it to anyone whose address they know.
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).


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    « Reply #38 on: June 11, 2013, 04:41:38 PM »
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    Just got ours today.

    Was wondering whether or not we would get one.

    We're not even registered at our chapel.

    Signed up for Regina Coeli a while back.

    They're spending a lot of money on this, and sending it to anyone whose address they know.


    It fits their M.O.

    They're using everything at their disposal in this war.

    Angelus Press, for example. Remember the e-blast that offered a discount if you sign up for their mailing list, and/or sign up 5 friends? (I can't remember the exact details. Maybe they had a membership goal, and if they reached it, everyone would get a discount? Something like that).

    I just noted that the SSPX is using its book publishing arm in the war. This was June or July 2012.

    Which is why we need to be careful who/what we support -- this is Total War. If Angelus Press is flush with cash, they can do that much more damage to souls (by spreading lies and confusion about the Resistance, etc.)

    I guess we need to look elsewhere for such books. Or at least restrict yourself to buying works by the Archbishop! That'll show them where the true demand is.
    They can't do TOO much with your $15. Just don't buy Missals, etc. from them.

    As Fr. Chazal said, This is War!
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    « Reply #39 on: June 11, 2013, 04:51:28 PM »
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    Just got ours today.

    Was wondering whether or not we would get one.

    We're not even registered at our chapel.

    Signed up for Regina Coeli a while back.

    They're spending a lot of money on this, and sending it to anyone whose address they know.


    It fits their M.O.

    They're using everything at their disposal in this war.

    Angelus Press, for example. Remember the e-blast that offered a discount if you sign up for their mailing list, and/or sign up 5 friends? (I can't remember the exact details. Maybe they had a membership goal, and if they reached it, everyone would get a discount? Something like that).

    I just noted that the SSPX is using its book publishing arm in the war. This was June or July 2012.

    Which is why we need to be careful who/what we support -- this is Total War. If Angelus Press is flush with cash, they can do that much more damage to souls (by spreading lies and confusion about the Resistance, etc.)

    I guess we need to look elsewhere for such books. Or at least restrict yourself to buying works by the Archbishop! That'll show them where the true demand is.
    They can't do TOO much with your $15. Just don't buy Missals, etc. from them.

    As Fr. Chazal said, This is War!



    Ooi... eet is war Monsieur!



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    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    « Reply #40 on: June 11, 2013, 04:58:21 PM »
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  • From now on I will call them the "Brand New SSPX".


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    « Reply #41 on: June 11, 2013, 06:13:16 PM »
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  • Now I read Columba at Ignis Ardens.

    I will call them "SSPX Kumbayah".


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    « Reply #42 on: June 11, 2013, 06:17:36 PM »
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    From now on I will call them the "Brand New SSPX".


    Or even, the "Branded New SSPX".   :surprised:

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    « Reply #43 on: June 11, 2013, 06:19:54 PM »
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  • When I was a nipper (I'm dating myself, ah, no I'm not going out with myself) there used to be one extra annual collection. Now, it seems we get an extra one thrown in every other week. Now we know how all those big packets of disinformation were paid for. I did read some of the stuff but the blighters just rephrased the same old rubbish they been putting out all along.

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    « Reply #44 on: June 11, 2013, 06:38:47 PM »
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    Angelus Press, for example.

    I bought my missal from Angelus Press a few years ago, so they must have my address, but I haven't gotten anything from them recently.
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