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Giant packet from SSPX
« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2013, 12:41:03 PM »
So evidently, the people getting this packet are targeted. It's not just everyone getting these. They're being sent to certain people. The people I'm in contact with haven't gotten one, so I think this garbage is being sent to a very targeted group of individuals.

Giant packet from SSPX
« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2013, 01:09:07 PM »
Quote from: Matthew
Has anyone realized yet --

The SSPX must be hurting, or at least fearful of what the Resistance could do, to spend such resources in their war against it.

* All the propaganda ("Against the Rumors", propagating the sermon, "Resistance to What?", etc.)
* Plane tickets for Accordista priests to visit far-flung areas to keep the sheep in line
* Legal fees to threaten various parishioners
etc.

* Don't forget the CDs and the required 'announcements' of their
    availability in the parish bookstores - part of a fundraiser plan to
    prop up this 'friendly fire war' against faithful Catholics in their ranks,
* and the re-branding campaign - sure, it was started before the
    Resistance got off the ground, but it continues apace with the re-
    building of websites, re-making of the Angelus, and all the Society-
    wide design look of stationery, brochures and promos.


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They seem to be spending a lot of attention, time, and money on the Resistance.


The fact that they're reacting means they see it as a threat.

They don't realize all the money they spend AGAINST the Resistance
only goes to make the Resistance stronger.  "But if it be of God, you
cannot overthrow it..." (v. 39).

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Quote from: Acts chapter 5
[34] But one in the council rising up, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, respected by all the people, commanded the men to be put forth a little while. [35] And he said to them: Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what you intend to do, as touching these men.

[36] For before these days rose up Theodas, affirming himself to be somebody, to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all that believed him were scattered, and brought to nothing. [37] After this man, rose up Judas of Galilee, in the days of the enrolling, and drew away the people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as consented to him, were dispersed. [38] And now, therefore, I say to you, refrain from these men, and let them alone; for if this council or this work be of men, it will come to nought; [39] But if it be of God, you cannot overthrow it, lest perhaps you be found even to fight against God.


Isn't it ironic that the "kindler, gentler" SSPX is focusing on the "positives of Tradition" while not being combative against Vatican II, Modernism, and the Conciliar Church hierarchy, all the while using a jackboot on their own members who dare to stand up for the original principles of the SSPX?



As Fr. Pfeiffer says, you know it's a DOCTRINAL issue because
it comes with PUNISHMENTS.  It comes with CONDEMNATION.  
It comes with EXPULSIONS and TRANSFERS and GUARDED
OBSERVATION (aka "being on probation").


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So they not only laid down their arms in the fight against Modernism, but they take up these same weapons and fire them at their own side! What vile treachery.



Excellent point, Matthew!  In laying down their arms against
the unclean spirit of Vat.II and the Newmass and false
ecuмenism and religious liberty and false collegiality and
indifferentism and all the rotten errors of these new popes
(the list is too long to mention!), the 'kinder gentler SSPX"
not only gives up the fight, but is DETERMINED to do so,
and
we don't need to hear them say as much because they prove
it's true when they pick up their arms to friendly fire them
against their own
-- against good Catholics who dare to
continue the traditional Church Militant by fighting in the open
against heresy and scandal.




Quote from: parentsfortruth

So evidently, the people getting this packet are targeted. It's not just everyone getting these. They're being sent to certain people. The people I'm in contact with haven't gotten one, so I think this garbage is being sent to a very targeted group of individuals.





My suspicion is, it's the mail list that is earmarked for having been
those who have previously sent large contributions or substantial
regular ones.  IOW - the demographic that has shown itself to be
capable of significant extortion -- I mean, participation.





Giant packet from SSPX
« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2013, 02:40:47 PM »
For the N-SSPX to send out these "Hit Packets" to everyone, at a considerable cost of money, shows that no one has been buying their propaganda pieces they have been conducting throughout the past year.  

They now have to shove it in our mail boxes to plead with us to believe them that they are just being "kind and gentle" in wanting to bring us into the dungeons of apostate Rome.

I have a question?

Menzingen and Fr. Rostand, how about staying on ABL's tried and true position of Jesus Christ alone, without submitting to the other religion with it's admixture of other gods?

Giant packet from SSPX
« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2013, 03:11:59 PM »
I haven't given, honestly, but $10 to the SSPX the entire time I've been there in "voluntary" contributions. (Edit: The entire time I've received any sacraments from them. My entire life. Father Bolduc was not in the SSPX. I'm not talking about Saint Michael's donations in the past. I'm talking about when I was confirmed, or visiting on vacation an SSPX church.)

I think they know I'm talking to people at one of their "volatile" parishes, and they hope to get me to shut up. I'm hearing it from one of my best friend's sons, talking to my brother, to tell me to shut up. I'm hearing it from others that I should just shut up. Now, my phone calls are not being returned from a certain person I thought I could count on...

They see me as a threat. Maybe the ripple effect of my not shutting up may be costing them money.

THIS IS NOT AN SSPX PARISH, as much as they want it to be.... YET. And as long as it isn't, I'm NOT going to shut up!

Giant packet from SSPX
« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2013, 03:38:13 PM »
Quote from: Matthew
Has anyone realized yet --

The SSPX must be hurting, or at least fearful of what the Resistance could do, to spend such resources in their war against it.

* All the propaganda ("Against the Rumors", propagating the sermon, "Resistance to What?", etc.)
* Plane tickets for Accordista priests to visit far-flung areas to keep the sheep in line
* Legal fees to threaten various parishioners
etc.

They seem to be spending a lot of attention, time, and money on the Resistance.

Quote from: Acts chapter 5
[34] But one in the council rising up, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, respected by all the people, commanded the men to be put forth a little while. [35] And he said to them: Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what you intend to do, as touching these men.

[36] For before these days rose up Theodas, affirming himself to be somebody, to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all that believed him were scattered, and brought to nothing. [37] After this man, rose up Judas of Galilee, in the days of the enrolling, and drew away the people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as consented to him, were dispersed. [38] And now, therefore, I say to you, refrain from these men, and let them alone; for if this council or this work be of men, it will come to nought; [39] But if it be of God, you cannot overthrow it, lest perhaps you be found even to fight against God.


Isn't it ironic that the "kindler, gentler" SSPX is focusing on the "positives of Tradition" while not being combative against Vatican II, Modernism, and the Conciliar Church hierarchy, all the while using a jackboot on their own members who dare to stand up for the original principles of the SSPX?

So they not only laid down their arms in the fight against Modernism, but they take up these same weapons and fire them at their own side! What vile treachery.


Yeah, they are obviously worried the SSPX-Resistance is growing.

They must have some other index to gauge this, besides their normal donation receipts.  

Maybe the defection of some key people?

I would expect that after the neoSSPX "Branding" scandal takes full effect, they will become even more desperate.  

Branding is not a dinner table topic that your average neoSSPX trad could defend easily.