Author Topic: Giant packet from SSPX (Read 11768 times)

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #15 on:** June 10, 2013, 11:29:52 PM »

Quote from: 1st Mansion Tenant

Got my packet at catechism after Mass on Sun. First time I ever heard anyone even mention the resistance.

Cheerfully told us that God burned Fr. Pfieffer's house down because of his disobedience. Wow.

Are you serious?
Could you please post the direct quote from the message?

This is something we don't want to make a mistake over.

Whose name is showing as the author? Date, sender's address,
context - what paragraph was it in? Why do you say, "cheerfully..?"

Let's see, this would be another example of the virtue of prudence?

Or, have they been misspelling "imprudence" because they didn't
want to say "brashness" or "gangster mentality" -- hmm?

AntiFellayism · « **Reply #16 on:** June 10, 2013, 11:55:32 PM »

Quote from: parentsfortruth

Wow. They've really tried going out of their way this time. I got a giant packet from the SSPX, including fancy CDs of Father Themann's talks, and even a summary and a long letter from Bishop Fellay. Anyone else get this garbage (cause that's where it went?)

I got one too!

http://satiricalgoo.blogspot.com/2013/06/new-package-of-neo-sspx.html

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #17 on:** June 11, 2013, 12:26:37 AM »

So my dad and I were talking about it a little, and we were thinking of things to say about what we did with the packet we were sent. A couple of them were really funny. One of them was about expensive toilet paper, rather than toss it in the garbage bin.

Zeitun · « **Reply #18 on:** June 11, 2013, 12:32:52 AM »

:alcohol: :cheers: :rahrah: :dancing: :dancing-banana: :roll-laugh1: :roll-laugh2: :applause:

Zeitun · « **Reply #19 on:** June 11, 2013, 12:33:54 AM »

Quote from: parentsfortruth

So my dad and I were talking about it a little, and we were thinking of things to say about what we did with the packet we were sent. A couple of them were really funny. One of them was about expensive toilet paper, rather than toss it in the garbage bin.

Or you could forward it to NSA and say it's a "suspicious package".

1st Mansion Tenant · « **Reply #20 on:** June 11, 2013, 01:18:53 AM »

It was spoken, not printed. It was part of the remarks given while handing the packets out.

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Quote from: 1st Mansion Tenant
Got my packet at catechism after Mass on Sun. First time I ever heard anyone even mention the resistance.

Cheerfully told us that God burned Fr. Pfieffer's house down because of his disobedience. Wow.

Are you serious?
Could you please post the direct quote from the message?

This is something we don't want to make a mistake over.

Whose name is showing as the author? Date, sender's address,
context - what paragraph was it in? Why do you say, "cheerfully..?"

Let's see, this would be another example of the virtue of prudence?

Or, have they been misspelling "imprudence" because they didn't
want to say "brashness" or "gangster mentality" -- hmm?

Machabees · « **Reply #21 on:** June 11, 2013, 01:42:01 AM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Quote from: parentsfortruth
Wow. They've really tried going out of their way this time. I got a giant packet from the SSPX, including fancy CDs of Father Themann's talks, and even a summary and a long letter from Bishop Fellay. Anyone else get this garbage (cause that's where it went?)

It would be your call to estimate the funding required to undertake this
initiative. If the CDs had color images printed on them and came in
'Jєωel' cases with glossy fold-out indexes they may have run up to $2 or
$3 to produce. Then with the printed material, another dollar or two,
so you could be up to $10 or $15, plus postage -- that would be close
to $20. Then times it by the mailing list, what, 2,000 recipients, and
that could be $40,000 to send out a promo for more money, basically.

If they can't impress you with sound teaching (then they would make
themselves look like Resistance priests!) they resort to pompous the
windbag approach, you know, so at least you can think you're getting
SOMETHING for your money!

To produce and mail to every one on their mailing list, in addition to sending large amounts of these CD's, with accompanying letters, to each chapel for "free" distribution of such a "giant" propaganda package requires a considerable amount of money.

Remember this branding thing of the new-sspx, in addition to Fr. Rostand asking for three "appeals" for money within 3-months of each other (Christmas appeal Dec. 2012, Lenten appeal 2013, and his recent Easter appeal March 27, 2013).

What a trickery of Fr. Rostand to play up on peoples "faith" and "emotion" to give to him money, and say there is "desperate" need with all of the "expenses" to run the District House and take the money to make a propaganda piece -is another sham- of a calculated agenda; like Bishop Fellay and his agenda to play on peoples "faith" and "emotion" to give to him some "rosary crusades" that went to his "staged" charade for his "practical deal" with conciliar Rome.

Another sham of the N-SSPX!

Next time there is a "plea" or an "appeal" for money, he gives me to think that he is going to turn it around again and use it to put out another propaganda hit piece.

I am NOT for sale!

Marlelar · « **Reply #22 on:** June 11, 2013, 02:07:44 AM »

A note explaining why they are not getting our $$ is a good idea, if I get a package I will do that. They need to hear from the hoi polloi.

Marsha

Lourdes Fatima · « **Reply #23 on:** June 11, 2013, 02:45:22 AM »

Here's the package I received:

ggreg · « **Reply #24 on:** June 11, 2013, 02:59:57 AM »

I wonder how many people who will use the information actually need it in physical form?

Could they not put an MP3 file on the website and produce all that paper in PDF format.

A substantial proportion of the laity must have computers and Internet.

I guess the old ladies with the houses don't, and one of them pays for this marketing campaign 5 to 10 times over which is why they print it.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #25 on:** June 11, 2013, 05:48:00 AM »

Quote from: ggreg

I wonder how many people who will use the information actually need it in physical form?

Could they not put an MP3 file on the website and produce all that paper in PDF format.

A substantial proportion of the laity must have computers and Internet.

I guess the old ladies with the houses don't, and one of them pays for this marketing campaign 5 to 10 times over which is why they print it.

There's no way this decision to go paper and snail mail on this promo
was a local one. It came from Menzingen. And that means it was a
component of the Dutch PR program package -- part of the 'new image.'

Why pay a pagan consultant forty thousand Euros for advice if you're
not going to follow it to the letter?

Not forty thousand? Whatever it was it was too much. One hundred
would be a crime just the same.

That should be an item for your note in the return envelope with the
red Sharpie carrot (^):

TWIMC:
Don't ask me for money, just call up your boss, B. Fellay and put in
a requisition for your share of his 80 million-Euro piggy bank. If he's
eager to pay a pagan in Holland for advice certainly he won't mind
helping out his own lapdog lemming sycophants at Regina Coeli
House!

When your customer has a package in hand it's like a present. He
feels obligated to open it and read the contents. If it were only an
e-mail it would most likely be deleted without ever having looked
at it. This is why I say we should print out copies of Fr. Girouard's
sermon within the octave of Corpus Christi and pass it around. If
you send people an e-mail with a link, they might open it and they
might not. If you hand them a good-looking sheet of paper, they're
going to hold it in their hands and look at it with their eyes.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #26 on:** June 11, 2013, 10:37:54 AM »

Quote from: Zeitun

Quote from: parentsfortruth
So my dad and I were talking about it a little, and we were thinking of things to say about what we did with the packet we were sent. A couple of them were really funny. One of them was about expensive toilet paper, rather than toss it in the garbage bin.

Or you could forward it to NSA and say it's a "suspicious package".

Militia Jesu · « **Reply #27 on:** June 11, 2013, 11:18:30 AM »

Quote from: parentsfortruth

Quote from: Zeitun
Quote from: parentsfortruth
So my dad and I were talking about it a little, and we were thinking of things to say about what we did with the packet we were sent. A couple of them were really funny. One of them was about expensive toilet paper, rather than toss it in the garbage bin.

Or you could forward it to NSA and say it's a "suspicious package".

NSA would no doubt hand the case over to USDA; AMM office to be more specific.

Matthew · « **Reply #28 on:** June 11, 2013, 11:30:18 AM »

No one has spoken about CD cost yet (at least not anyone with experience in the field), so here goes:

The 2 CDs, without Jєωel cases, are only about 25 or 30 cents each. Possibly less.

Even the minimum order of 1,000 CDs, with all the fixins, comes out to around $1100.

That includes a 2-sided, 4 page full color insert, Jєωel case & tray, assembly, and the CD itself.

If you just want the CDs, it would be much cheaper.

And as you might guess, all the work is setting up the machine. The 2nd 1,000 CDs costs the factory much less time & money than the first 1,000 -- and they pass a lot of that savings along to their client.

The SSPX obviously ordered more than 1,000. And they didn't spring for a Jєωel case. Oh, and that lack of Jєωel case makes the CDs weigh only a couple ounces. That saves on mailing cost.

So they didn't do a bad job economizing. Like GGreg said, the "retired" set DEMANDS a physical format (rather than something online or digital), and these folks are retired, with 40 years of work under their belts, often with nest eggs, and are trying to help the Church and store up treasure for heaven as they feel Death get close to their subdivision, if not their front door.

So just one "hit" pays for hundreds or even thousands of "misses".

Matthew · « **Reply #29 on:** June 11, 2013, 12:22:15 PM »

Has anyone realized yet --

The SSPX must be hurting, or at least fearful of what the Resistance could do, to spend such resources in their war against it.

* All the propaganda ("Against the Rumors", propagating the sermon, "Resistance to What?", etc.)
* Plane tickets for Accordista priests to visit far-flung areas to keep the sheep in line
* Legal fees to threaten various parishioners
etc.

They seem to be spending a lot of attention, time, and money on the Resistance.

Quote from: Acts chapter 5

[34] But one in the council rising up, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, respected by all the people, commanded the men to be put forth a little while. [35] And he said to them: Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what you intend to do, as touching these men.

[36] For before these days rose up Theodas, affirming himself to be somebody, to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all that believed him were scattered, and brought to nothing. [37] After this man, rose up Judas of Galilee, in the days of the enrolling, and drew away the people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as consented to him, were dispersed. [38] And now, therefore, I say to you, refrain from these men, and let them alone; for if this council or this work be of men, it will come to nought; [39] But if it be of God, you cannot overthrow it, lest perhaps you be found even to fight against God.

Isn't it ironic that the "kindler, gentler" SSPX is focusing on the "positives of Tradition" while not being combative against Vatican II, Modernism, and the Conciliar Church hierarchy, all the while using a jackboot on their own members who dare to stand up for the original principles of the SSPX?

So they not only laid down their arms in the fight against Modernism, but they take up these same weapons and fire them at their own side! What vile treachery.