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Offline TomGubbinsKimmage

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Re: Get me up to speed on the SSPX, please
« Reply #15 on: Yesterday at 01:00:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: WorldsAway on Yesterday at 10:45:07 AM
    The law of prayer is the law of faith, and the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is the perfect expression of the Catholic Faith. You can cope and seethe all you want, but the Mass said by a Catholic priest is just that..his opinion on the Crisis is irrelevant. The neo-SSPX, Resistance, sedevacantist, and independent priests are all dispensers of the Sacraments. That is their job.


    You're forgetting the Orthodox there. And the old Catholics.
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    Offline MiracleOfTheSun

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    Re: Get me up to speed on the SSPX, please
    « Reply #16 on: Yesterday at 01:02:19 PM »
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    • It's also worth noting that the SSPX signed on with GREC, on the clandestine 'down low', basically just after +Lefebvre died - and they've been slipping ever since.  I'm saying that only so you don't go in with rose colored shades.  There is much to look out for actually but just know that going in.
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    Re: Get me up to speed on the SSPX, please
    « Reply #17 on: Yesterday at 01:14:56 PM »
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    • Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on Yesterday at 01:00:21 PM

    You're forgetting the Orthodox there. And the old Catholics.
    "the Mass said by a Catholic priest is just that"

    Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on Yesterday at 12:58:18 PM

    Protecting your faith is not something you have a choice about it.

    You are obliged to do it. Whether you "feel" it or not.
    I agree. If your faith is so weak that attending a neoSSPX mass would compromise it, stay away! But stop projecting :incense:
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    Offline Stubborn

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    Re: Get me up to speed on the SSPX, please
    « Reply #18 on: Yesterday at 01:49:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on Yesterday at 10:26:42 AM

    Would that life be so simple that it was only about the Sacraments.
    That and the Mass, that's what I use them for, that's what everyone should use them for. What do you use your priests for?
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    Offline SimonJude

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    Re: Get me up to speed on the SSPX, please
    « Reply #19 on: Yesterday at 07:47:43 PM »
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    • Quote from: JeanBaptistedeCouetus on Yesterday at 12:07:14 AM
    I completely disagree with your take on Father David Hewko. He is a fantastic priest, and a faithful son of Archbishop Lefebvre who’s fidelity to the Catholic Doctrine, the Faith is something I strive for everyday.
    fr. hewko is working with fr. Raphael, even though fr. Hewko said he was not.  

    fr. Hewko never denounced fr. Marshall Roberts working with OLMC, nor did he ever say a word about fr. Pfeiffer hiding fr. Roberts in AZ under the wing of OLMC.

    Also, did fr. Hewko ever denounce OLMC "friend" "fr" tetherow, or the OLMC association with laicised "fr" cordaro?

    I have serious concerns about Fr. Hewko.
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    Re: Get me up to speed on the SSPX, please
    « Reply #20 on: Yesterday at 07:53:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: Stubborn on Yesterday at 06:36:30 AM
    The guy is looking for the Mass and sacraments, which the SSPX provides. Yes, they are definitely playing with hell fire as you noted, but you go for the Mass and the sacraments to a certainly valid priest - NO priests that were not conditionally ordained by an SSPX bishop are the exception, not the rule - so yes, you do need to watch out for that.   

    But I have never heard heresy or error from the pulpit, their Masses are always done well, and their counseling in confession has always been very good, soundly Catholic.
    Agree with your first paragraph 100%, but beg to differ with the second.

    I have heard heresy and errors from the pulpit at SSPX chapels, and their counseling in confessions has often been flat out un-Catholic and immoral.

    That said, I still attend SSPX because it's the only Mass around me, but I go to mass, leave during the sermon, return until the end of Mass, then immediately exit.
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    Re: Get me up to speed on the SSPX, please
    « Reply #21 on: Yesterday at 07:58:46 PM »
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    • Quote from: Stubborn on Yesterday at 01:49:54 PM
    That and the Mass, that's what I use them for, that's what everyone should use them for. What do you use your priests for?
    The SSPX (20 min drive from the hospital) refused to bring my son extreme unction when he was in ICU for several days.  They told me to call the FSSP (40 min drive from the hospital), who told me to call the local NO church (15 min drive from the hospital).  I was desperate and wanted all possible opportunity for my son.  The NO priest was there within the hour. 

    Blew me away...
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    Re: Get me up to speed on the SSPX, please
    « Reply #22 on: Yesterday at 08:23:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: SimonJude on Yesterday at 07:53:30 PM
    Agree with your first paragraph 100%, but beg to differ with the second.

    I have heard heresy and errors from the pulpit at SSPX chapels, and their counseling in confessions has often been flat out un-Catholic and immoral.

    That said, I still attend SSPX because it's the only Mass around me, but I go to mass, leave during the sermon, return until the end of Mass, then immediately exit.
    What heresies did you hear?
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