The proof for Geocentrism requires all kinds of unmathematical, imaginary hypotheses and really insane ideas.
I've listened to Dr. Sungenis speak, and I believe that you haven't lent him the attentive ear that he deserves.
If by unmathematical you mean that he hasn't applied or taken mathematics into account in his theory then you are either lying or you are ignorant, as you may see on his website examples of mathematical simulations that model his geocentric theory. He has also explained the underlying thought of his mathematics in the talks that I've listened to. If you mean that his mathematics are inadequate or faulty --- that is not something that I've taken the time to fully discern, but I haven't seen anything yet that would make me believe that his mathematics are there as a snare to fool us into thinking that his theory is more credible than it is. On the contrary, he seems to have gone to adequate lengths here. He mentions hiring a scientist to do further calculations that would bolster the theory, for example.
He is not making a fideistic claim like that we should throw out all of Newtonian mechanics and the mathematics supporting it and just believe "on faith" that the Earth is at the center of the Universe because that it is the literal interpretation of
Genesis. Not at all; he is not behaving like a Protestant. He is not only trying to "rescue religion", he is first and foremost trying to rescue science. So when you say, "what happened to the idea that Science and Religion agree", it betrays a misunderstanding of the
fundamentals of Sungenis's position. Dr. Sungenis is not saying that we have to throw away our science in favour of religion; he is making the much more ballsy and humorous claim that the past few centuries of science have blundered and that the Church happened to have had it right all along. Now, you have to step away for a moment from your school programming on science to admire the sublime defiance inherent to his position. He isn't claiming that he is holier or more pious than the scientists (something that they would sneer at), he is claiming to be a better scientist than the scientists! Either he's a hopeless fool a lá Don Quixote, or he's a man with a fine sense of irony.
His research has been spurred by a recent discovery that is fascinating. I'm referring to the satellite that has drawn a map of the entire Universe showing the distribution of cosmic background radiation. According to the Big Bang Theory there ought to be a more or less even spread of cosmic background radiation in the Universe. Not only has this map shown that there are clumps or islands of higher concentrations of cosmic background radiation than others, it reveals an axis in the structure of the Universe that points directly to the Earth. This is mindboggling to everybody --- except Geocentrists, who wouldn't be suprised to see evidence that the Earth occupies a special place within the Universe. This revelation does not itself prove Geocentrism, but it does contradict the
Copernican Principle --- the idea that Our Home is just the third rock from the Sun, which is itself one of innumerable stars in the Milky Way Galaxy, which is itself one of the innumerable galaxies in the Universe (, and which itself, according to some, may be one of innumerable universes in the Multiverse). This is why this axis has been dubbed by the scientists as the "axis of evil" --- because it contradicts their Copernican worldview, that the Earth is as significant to the Universe as a single grain of sand is to the Sahara. Now, the Copernican worldview that I have described is perhaps, as Dr. Sungenis describes in his talks, the very foundation of Modern Society. It supports moral relativism, because if we are just one speck of the Universe then all of our claims to knowledge of moral absolutes, or of any absolutes, seem at once delusional. It lends credence to atheism - or at least opposition to the God that we know - because if we are just a stray atom located in a random area of the wide Universe then it is conceivable, to the gullible, that we are the result of accidental collisions of particles and of stars, and that there is no Divine Purpose to our existence. Try to wrest from your eyes the Copernican lenses that your teachers were trained to force upon you at school and imagine for a moment how different the Universe looks when the Earth is at the center of it and the sun and the stars and the planets are all revolving around it. Suddenly we go from being a peculiar mathematical anamoly to being the center of creation. No longer do we have to look at the stars and imagine that each one of them is our equal whose point of view we have to tolerate --- no, WE are the center and the stars are there to ornament OUR sky. This notion shocks the blood of a Modernist, but it's what THE ENTIRE ANCIENT AND MEDIEVAL WORLD BELIEVED. How BEAUTIFULLY IRONIC would it be if the Modern World
that is based on sneering at the ancients for their "ignorance and superstition", to find out at last that they knew more about the Universe than we do? It's so beautiful that according to John Keats it
ipso facto has to be true.
Now, as regards Geocentrism and Dr. Sungenis's justification of it: he is not rejecting Newtonian mechanics; on the contrary, he sees himself as the great advocate of Newton mechanics after their being perverted by Einstein's frankly absurd notions (seriously, you accuse Sungenis of having insane ideas - do you understand Einstein's? Dr. Sungenis goes over this an it is really important - there have been repeated experiments since the late 1800s that show that the Earth seems not to be moving, and the way that the scientists worked around these experiments in order to maintain the Copernican principle that we are just a rock floating around the Sun is by --- I kid you not --- saying that when the experiment took place "time dilated/contracted" and so the results of the experiment came out looking faulty. This is the unsightly birthplace of the last century of Physics: scientists inventing logical absurdities and covering over them with recondite mathematics in order to maintain the Copernican Principle and thus Modernism at all costs). Dr. Sungenis is not refuting the Newtonian principle that the smaller object revolves around the larger object, as the smaller Earth revolves around the larger Sun. No, he rightly points out that this isn't Newtonian mechanics at all, it is pure superstition. Newtonian mechanics does not state that the "smaller object revolves around the larger object", it states that
both objects revolve around their shared center of mass. If the Earth and the Sun were the only celestial bodies in the Universe then the Earth would seem to "revolve around the Sun", as the Sun is so much more massive than the Earth that the center of mass that they share is much closer to the Sun than it is to the Earth, and so it will appear as though the Sun isn't revolving at all while the Earth participates in all of the revolution around the center of mass. Here is what Dr. Sungenis's theory is and it is actually very beautiful, even if it doesn't turn out to be true --- he is saying that, yes, while if it were so that the only two bodies in the Universe were the Earth and the Sun, it is not actually the case and so we have to take into account ALL OF THE OBJECTS IN THE UNIVERSE in order to calculate accurately where the center of mass lies (because the Universe has to have a center of mass SOMEWHERE, according to Newtonian mechanics). Imagine if there were three objects in existence --- the Earth, the Sun, and another Sun that is identical to the first. Now, imagine that the Earth is at the exact center of these three objects, so that the two Suns are located exactly opposite one and with them being equally distant from the Earth at the center. In this situation the Earth would be the center of mass with one Sun effectively "cancelling out" the gravitational pull on the Earth of the other, so that the Earth would stay completely still as the two Suns both revolved around the Earth in the same direction, keeping themselves opposite from one and other. What Dr. Sungenis is saying is that the all of the other objects, apart from the Earth and Sun, in the Universe are essentially playing the same role as that second Sun in cancelling out the Sun's gravitational pull on the Earth, so that the Earth ends up being the center of mass in the Universe with all of the other heavenly bodies revolving around it. Probabilistically the idea that the center of mass in the Universe just happens to be where the Earth is is infinitesimal, but the idea that that the cosmic background radiation in the Universe formed an axel pointing towards the Earth was inifinitesimal, and the probability of life occuring in the Universe and then "evolving" into what we see today was infinitesimal as well (something that many mainstream scientists reluctantly accept - that the conditions needed to produce life on a planet and for it to evolve to such a degree of "complexity" is
so slight that if you just changed the charge of an electron, as an example, even slightly: then there would be no human beings). Given the mathematical improbabilities that cause us to be in existence and that put our Earth on a line formed by the background radiation supposedly left behind by "The Big Bang", it would not be unprecedented for another miraculous coinicidence to occur with the Earth turning out to be the center of mass in the Universe. Here is the beautiful metaphor he uses --- imagine the Universe as a wheel that spins about its axle; the Earth is at the center, at the axle, and all of the stars are spread about the spokes that stretch to the perimeter of the wheel. There is at least one place in Scripture that refers to a Wheel in a mystical sense: in the opening of the Book of Ezechiel where the prophet has a vision of the Throne of God and he sees "a wheel in the midst of a wheel", and four of these along with four Cherubim arranged around the Throne at the center.
Think of how much destruction this idea that the Earth is a particle of dust embedded in an almost inifinitely wide blanket of stars has reaped. If the Devil wanted to turn people away from the Lord, convincing them that they (a) are in a relative and not absolute position in the Universe, and (b) that they are in a relative position in the Animal Kingdom and not charged by God to hold dominion over beasts being above them in dignity, would be genius ploys. It has lead to Modernism, to modern nihilism, apathy, moral relativism, liberalism, sɛҳuąƖ immorality, and, above all, apostasy. What would happen if all of these people weren't being indoctrinated at an early age by figures of authority (teachers) to believe that their nature is "an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things", and that their place in the Universe is as a refugee in a remote country, where perhaps myriad alien species, perhaps superior to us in wisdom, populate other, perhaps more significant, stars?
This is why Dr. Sungenis's claims are no laughing matter. Try the thought experiment I have delineated above. Imagine that the Earth is at the center of the Universe --- don't the clouds look so much more warm and comforting? don't the stars seem much more friendly? doesn't the Earth seem much more bountiful and precious? This is how the ancients looked at the cosmos --- it's no wonder that their art and architecture were so much more beautiful, they actually had dignity and self-respect. It's no wonder why our art and architecture is so vile --- we ourselves look vile in our own sight (I speak here of Moderns, of course, not you or I).
Do you know what my little sister says when I tell her that there is a God? "I don't believe in God, I believe in the Big Bang and Evolution". . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . This is the new religion - the religion of despair, which is soon to be replaced by the Gnostic religion of the Freemasons & Kabbalistic/тαℓмυdic Jєωs (the religion of Satan himself). This is the history of the past few centuries: getting the mass of humanity to turn away from God and despair to such an extent that they will worship the Beast with abundant joy because he will offer them the "spirituality" to fill up the abyss that they know is within their heart of heart.
"Holy, holy, holy, the Lord God of hosts, all the earth is filled with his glory".
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