Of course the Fathers were not unanimous in their defence of the Ptolemaic hypothesis, so here you have the CON. They were unanimous in their interpretation of Scripture that states the sun moves and the earth is still in the centre of the universe. At no time did the Church ever insist on any particular GEOCENTRIC SYSTEM. But by giving us the truth the way they did, they were CONNING readers into believing that the Fathers were not unanimous in their GEOCENTRIC reading of the Scriptures.
And this is where you live, Cassini, in a twighlight world of poor debate tactics, feigned incomprehensions, straw men, outrageous accusations....it's all so tedious.
You know exactly what SJB's citation means.
And, as for me being well-informed, I caught your ass in TWO outrageous slanders of the Church which you had gotten from your Protestant teachers and gurus. I caught them, because I am well-informed in such things. So, I took your statement the way I wanted to, the way you should have meant it, and because I knew it would aggravate you.
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OK icterius, I concede you are well informed as regards the 'Lucifer Mass' accusation. As for 'kicking my ass' in TWO areas, well maybe in your imagination but not in fact. The first of the TWO incidents was a post in response to a 'WHAT NEXT' in the realm of Copernicanism. I answered that sightings of Aliens, and perhaps demons in the form of Aliens could be next. I demonstrated by quoting Catholic priests from a traditional Catholic website that the way was already being paved for some such introduction of Aliens into Catholic minds.
And you say you 'kicked my ass' by saying that was Protestant absurdity?
Well sorry pal, whose ass gets kicked on this one will have to wait.
The second of the TWO incidents was - as I said - a website sent to me asking IS THIS FOR REAL. I asked you the same question, that is all as can be seen on the post. Because you could answer NO, does not mean you 'kicked my ass.' It simply means we agreed on that one. You knew the why, I came to a different reason for the same answer. On that one you are well informed.
But now let us return to the thread question as Neil rightly wants. On this one if 'ass kicking' is the game, my leg is getting tired having to correct you, as your Fathers and the Ptolemaic hypothesis demonstrated. As for being informed, well I know you are not.
Finally Icterus, as for 'outrageous accusations' well God bless your innocence. rather than look at the evidence you reject it out of hand. You remind me of the thousands of children abused by priests over the last 60 years because no one would believe those 'outrageous accusations.'