Quote from: J.Paul

Quote from: Wessex

If the Church can preach any theology and still be the Church, the faithful at any one time must be fortunate enough to incur her pleasure and that of her creator. Woe betide those that do not; they were born at the wrong time! Apologists for conciliarism could rightfully castigate those clinging to a backward theology for daring to question the Church's authority to introduce new theology. I think I am getting at the root of R & R; it is a regime for willing captives!    

Indeed, willing captives who now identify with their captors.

With Roman conversion now a dead duck, the question reverts to deciding how 'backward compatible' is Vatican 2. Those badly written docuмents have been salvaged, cleaned, reassessed and sorted with regard to what is optional and what is not. This could be the route Menzingen is now using ......  and one which in time may appeal to some of our friends here! Am I ahead of the game?