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Offline Incredulous

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« on: October 03, 2012, 07:51:49 PM »
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     As the novus-sspx continues it's slide downwards it has recruited a writer from the moderate paper "The Remnant" to make it's new poster boy. First they put him on display by having him give conferences in different sspx establishments. Then they set their new friend out to hack at Bishop Williamson. (Look at sspx.org)

      Gone are the days when the SSPX (now the novus-sspx) quoted with a certain pride from Catholic Family News or Si Si No No. They are clinging to their new friend: "The Remnant" ---the inbetween paper. Between Catholic Family News and The Wanderer. A clear indication of a serious slip. Is it because of THIS appearing on the front page of Catholic Family News recently?...  http://www.cfnews.org/page10/page45/archbishop_dinoia_admits-convert_sspx_to_v2.html

      A little advice for the up and coming Brian McCall: "We shall never learn to know ourselves except by endeavoring to know God; for, beholding His greatness, we realize our own littleness; His purity shows us our foulness; and by meditating upon His humility we find how very far we are from being humble" -- Saint Teresa of Avila



    So everybody but Bp. Fellay, seems to recognize the "Doctrinal talks" were a theatrical ruse used by both Rome and the SSPX.

    However, neither John Vennari or Michael Matt will directly criticize B. Fellay?
    This is today's traditional Catholic free-press?

    This is one reason to thank Our Lord for the internet.


    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    « Reply #1 on: October 03, 2012, 08:28:53 PM »
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  • The most important things I took away from that lengthy rebuttal were:

    1. The Society in no way denies the fact that in light of recent history and behavior, the first three sine qua non conditions may be rendered null de facto if diocesan bishops have authority over Society houses.

    Given the current situation in Rome I would say that's a problem.

    2. "One purpose of this Commission would be from the Society’s perspective to have a forum in which to continually echo the call for a conversion to Tradition at the highest levels of the Church. This is exactly what the doctrinal commission was designed to permit, the Society to present the case for Tradition in Rome."

    Mr. McCall unintentionally admits here that the religion of Rome is not Catholic, for what does "Tradition" mean other than the one true Catholic faith? The SSPX is asking for the ability to convert Rome to Catholicism?

    3. Although Mr. McCall's strongest claim is that the General Council's aim was to establish legal protection and a righting of wrongs, he misses the forest by focusing on the trees. The purpose of the SSPX was to preserve the faith. Under the present conditions in Rome why is reconciliation desired at all?

    I leave it for each to read it himself, but that's what I took away from it.

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    « Reply #2 on: October 03, 2012, 09:22:56 PM »
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  • Has Rostand run out of writers to defend the GC's Six Conditions so much so that he has to turn to Remnant writers for a hit piece. Pathetic.

    Brian McCall assumes that the Neo SSPX is so special that they can enter the Roman Mystery and remain 100% Traditional? I have news for you Brian, Bp. Fellay doesn't have to sign anything. His mind & heart is already infected with Modernism. Look at his thinking:

    "This structure that is being offered to the Society is in fact entirely appropriate. That is, if it actually takes place, you will feel absolutely no difference between now and afterwards. We will remain as we are, so to speak." - excerpt from his sermon in Vienna.

    Bishop Fellay accepts 95% of Vatican II and so "now and afterwards" means he is now Modernist in leaning & thinking and afterwards will be under Modernists. Like the husband who wants to have an affair with another woman and lusts after her, but somehow it doesn't happen for some unexplained reason but still hopes for an affair. I know you men out there know what I mean. He doesn't need to sleep with her. He is already sinning in his heart!

    A priest I know shockingly gave this remark, "When we're regularized, Rome will make the other Ecclesia Dei groups apologize to us." I told him, "Father, in your crazy irrational dreams!"

    Brian: get a reality check! NeoSSPX is B16's grand trophy. No traditional group has survived under the Anti-Christ!

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    « Reply #3 on: October 03, 2012, 10:04:39 PM »
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  • Quote from: Lepanto Again
     As the novus-sspx continues it's slide downwards it has recruited a writer from the moderate paper "The Remnant" to make it's new poster boy. First they put him on display by having him give conferences in different sspx establishments. Then they set their new friend out to hack at Bishop Williamson. (Look at sspx.org)

      Gone are the days when the SSPX (now the novus-sspx) quoted with a certain pride from Catholic Family News or Si Si No No. They are clinging to their new friend: "The Remnant" ---the inbetween paper. Between Catholic Family News and The Wanderer. A clear indication of a serious slip. Is it because of THIS appearing on the front page of Catholic Family News recently?...  http://www.cfnews.org/page10/page45/archbishop_dinoia_admits-convert_sspx_to_v2.html

      A little advice for the up and coming Brian McCall: "We shall never learn to know ourselves except by endeavoring to know God; for, beholding His greatness, we realize our own littleness; His purity shows us our foulness; and by meditating upon His humility we find how very far we are from being humble" -- Saint Teresa of Avila


    The downward-slide of The Remnant first became apparent to us with the May 20, 2012 issue in which Michael Matt interviewed Fr. Rostand about the negotiations.

    Things started to make sense to us when we read in a more recent issue of The Remnant that Michael Matt drives 75 miles to attend an INDULT Mass! Now we realize that he just doesn't get it, that he is already in the Novus Ordo, so no wonder he wants +Fellay to join him. The recent nauseating articles by Brian McCall are just the frosting on the cake that made us decide that we are not renewing our subscription to The Remnant.

    We'll take Bishop Williamson any day. His articles are clear and concise, and everyone can understand them perfectly on the first read. None of this gobbledy-gook double-talk that has one asking "What did the guy say???"

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    « Reply #4 on: October 03, 2012, 11:38:35 PM »
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    Has Rostand run out of writers to defend the GC's Six Conditions so much so that he has to turn to Remnant writers for a hit piece. Pathetic.

    Brian McCall assumes that the Neo SSPX is so special that they can enter the Roman Mystery and remain 100% Traditional? I have news for you Brian, Bp. Fellay doesn't have to sign anything. His mind & heart is already infected with Modernism. Look at his thinking:

    "This structure that is being offered to the Society is in fact entirely appropriate. That is, if it actually takes place, you will feel absolutely no difference between now and afterwards. We will remain as we are, so to speak." - excerpt from his sermon in Vienna.

    Bishop Fellay accepts 95% of Vatican II and so "now and afterwards" means he is now Modernist in leaning & thinking and afterwards will be under Modernists. Like the husband who wants to have an affair with another woman and lusts after her, but somehow it doesn't happen for some unexplained reason but still hopes for an affair. I know you men out there know what I mean. He doesn't need to sleep with her. He is already sinning in his heart!

    A priest I know shockingly gave this remark, "When we're regularized, Rome will make the other Ecclesia Dei groups apologize to us." I told him, "Father, in your crazy irrational dreams!"

    Brian: get a reality check! NeoSSPX is B16's grand trophy. No traditional group has survived under the Anti-Christ!




    In that analogy, there's also a difference in the severity of those "sins of the heart":

       The husband longing for adultery is breaking the 9th Commandment.

       The bishop longing to unite his flock with modernism is breaking the 1st Commandment.

    Shouldn't SSPX priests consider that before denying the Holy Eucharist to an SSPX faithful who resists Bp. Fellay ?

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    « Reply #5 on: October 03, 2012, 11:45:25 PM »
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  • Quote from: Lepanto Again
     As the novus-sspx continues it's slide downwards it has recruited a writer from the moderate paper "The Remnant" to make it's new poster boy. First they put him on display by having him give conferences in different sspx establishments. Then they set their new friend out to hack at Bishop Williamson. (Look at sspx.org)

    ...

      A little advice for the up and coming Brian McCall: "We shall never learn to know ourselves except by endeavoring to know God; for, beholding His greatness, we realize our own littleness; His purity shows us our foulness; and by meditating upon His humility we find how very far we are from being humble" -- Saint Teresa of Avila


    That's what happens when you want to keep your kids in the SSPX schools.....

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    « Reply #6 on: October 04, 2012, 10:37:12 AM »
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     As the novus-sspx continues it's slide downwards it has recruited a writer from the moderate paper "The Remnant" to make it's new poster boy. First they put him on display by having him give conferences in different sspx establishments. Then they set their new friend out to hack at Bishop Williamson. (Look at sspx.org)

      Gone are the days when the SSPX (now the novus-sspx) quoted with a certain pride from Catholic Family News or Si Si No No. They are clinging to their new friend: "The Remnant" ---the inbetween paper. Between Catholic Family News and The Wanderer. A clear indication of a serious slip. Is it because of THIS appearing on the front page of Catholic Family News recently?...  http://www.cfnews.org/page10/page45/archbishop_dinoia_admits-convert_sspx_to_v2.html

      A little advice for the up and coming Brian McCall: "We shall never learn to know ourselves except by endeavoring to know God; for, beholding His greatness, we realize our own littleness; His purity shows us our foulness; and by meditating upon His humility we find how very far we are from being humble" -- Saint Teresa of Avila



    So everybody but Bp. Fellay, seems to recognize the "Doctrinal talks" were a theatrical ruse used by both Rome and the SSPX.

    However, neither John Vennari or Michael Matt will directly criticize B. Fellay?
    This is today's traditional Catholic free-press?

    This is one reason to thank Our Lord for the internet.




    recall, that M.Matt was gaga over Ferrera too and went along during election 2008 with news and stories to reflect the GOP/Palin-good, all else bad line........a lot of nose holding then, too....
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    « Reply #7 on: October 04, 2012, 11:36:10 AM »
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  • What else has Brian McCall written?  

    It's disappointing that someone would drive 75 miles to assist at an Indult unless they were fairly uninformed of the more profound problems with Vatican II.  This does not include someone who writes articles for "The Remnant".  A trad writer who assists at an indult over a trad group is compromised in his mindset.


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    « Reply #8 on: October 04, 2012, 11:37:47 AM »
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  • maybe, in his defnese on this, he has only the Indult.....or complete  :jester: :clown:
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    « Reply #9 on: October 04, 2012, 06:36:45 PM »
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    What else has Brian McCall written?  

    It's disappointing that someone would drive 75 miles to assist at an Indult unless they were fairly uninformed of the more profound problems with Vatican II.  This does not include someone who writes articles for "The Remnant".  A trad writer who assists at an indult over a trad group is compromised in his mindset.


    Yes. But since the powers that be give him pride of place he will continue to spew out lukewarm Catholicism.

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    « Reply #10 on: October 05, 2012, 02:50:39 AM »
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  • I think we should pray for them to make the right decision.
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    « Reply #11 on: October 05, 2012, 03:34:29 AM »
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     As the novus-sspx continues it's slide downwards it has recruited a writer from the moderate paper "The Remnant" to make it's new poster boy. First they put him on display by having him give conferences in different sspx establishments. Then they set their new friend out to hack at Bishop Williamson. (Look at sspx.org)

      Gone are the days when the SSPX (now the novus-sspx) quoted with a certain pride from Catholic Family News or Si Si No No. They are clinging to their new friend: "The Remnant" ---the inbetween paper. Between Catholic Family News and The Wanderer. A clear indication of a serious slip. Is it because of THIS appearing on the front page of Catholic Family News recently?...  http://www.cfnews.org/page10/page45/archbishop_dinoia_admits-convert_sspx_to_v2.html

      A little advice for the up and coming Brian McCall: "We shall never learn to know ourselves except by endeavoring to know God; for, beholding His greatness, we realize our own littleness; His purity shows us our foulness; and by meditating upon His humility we find how very far we are from being humble" -- Saint Teresa of Avila


    The downward-slide of The Remnant first became apparent to us with the May 20, 2012 issue in which Michael Matt interviewed Fr. Rostand about the negotiations.

    Things started to make sense to us when we read in a more recent issue of The Remnant that Michael Matt drives 75 miles to attend an INDULT Mass! Now we realize that he just doesn't get it, that he is already in the Novus Ordo, so no wonder he wants +Fellay to join him. The recent nauseating articles by Brian McCall are just the frosting on the cake that made us decide that we are not renewing our subscription to The Remnant.

    We'll take Bishop Williamson any day. His articles are clear and concise, and everyone can understand them perfectly on the first read. None of this gobbledy-gook double-talk that has one asking "What did the guy say???"


    Michael Matt has been heading towards the reform of the reform wagon for a while although he is in denial. SP for him has been a happy compromise since his wife is N.O.  I believe he thinks that as long as+ Fellay gets also in the wagon, it will be okay. I pray he opens his eyes soon but after the conservative conference last week I don't think so. Frankly, I was dissapointed  that John Vennari participated in it but John will speak out before long. I have known him long enough to trust him.
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    « Reply #12 on: October 05, 2012, 02:39:48 PM »
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    What else has Brian McCall written?  

    It's disappointing that someone would drive 75 miles to assist at an Indult unless they were fairly uninformed of the more profound problems with Vatican II.  This does not include someone who writes articles for "The Remnant".  A trad writer who assists at an indult over a trad group is compromised in his mindset.


    Just to clarify, it is Michael Matt, not Brian McCall, who drives to the Indult Mass. Michael Matt reveals in an article in the Sept 10, 2012 issue of The Remnant that his family drives 45 minutes (a correction) one way every Sunday to attend the Indult Mass in the Minneapolis/St. Paul Diocese (see "From the Editor's Desk", p.2, column 4, near the bottom).

    The amazing part about the article is that M. Matt is upset with the Archbishop of the Minneapolis/St. Paul Archdiocese for coming out with a new requirement that any child who wishes to receive First Communion, even those who are homeschooled, must be enrolled in a "parish process of preparation". They must participate in all of its communal dimensions (rituals, prayer services, etc.) and any other requirements determined by the pastor. This, of course, means the use of the new Catechism, the avoidance of which is not doubt one of the reasons he chose to homeschool in the first place.

    He fears that the children would be forced to "imbibe the deadly poison" not only of impiety, but also of heterodoxy and scandal. He obviously does not understand that this is why the Resistance is opposed to signing with Rome; that this would become a way of life for all of Tradition if the SSPX signs with Rome. He obviously does not understand that it is not just the Latin Tridentine Mass that we fight for, but all of the Catholic Faith, whole and entire. He needs to take a crash course on the crisis in the Church before it is too late! He'd better hurry before ABL's books are impossible to acquire, even on Amazon.com!

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    « Reply #13 on: October 05, 2012, 02:51:43 PM »
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    maybe, in his defense on this, he has only the Indult.....or complete  :jester: :clown:


    About 30 minutes/ 30 miles from SSPX Chapel in St.Paul, MN.........

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    « Reply #14 on: October 05, 2012, 02:56:27 PM »
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    maybe, in his defense on this, he has only the Indult.....or complete  :jester: :clown:


    About 30 minutes/ 30 miles from SSPX Chapel in St.Paul, MN.........


    well, that is a  :scratchchin:

    perhaps, as Matt has a lot of friends and ties to that area, might attend where he does.....just saying, not defending either way...
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