Author Topic: Friendly Reminder about Boston KY issues (Read 9075 times)

colombiano · « **Reply #10 on:** September 29, 2015, 09:02:46 AM »

"Showing the seminarians pornography"

Very vague, please clarify.

Who was doing this? a seminarian? a parishoner? Pablo? a Priest?

What was involved, an article with a picture that should be avoided (I've seen plenty of links here of these on Cathinfo), hardcore xxx porn? What exactly?

I'm not minimizing the seriousness of an indecent picture that might appear in an otherwise good article but your vagueness is just a wide open door to all kinds of possibilities that are much more serious.

hollingsworth · « **Reply #11 on:** September 29, 2015, 09:15:03 AM »

ladislaus:

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Don't beat yourself up. You did the best you could with the information you had. If he ends up going there, then God will have allowed it ... for whatever reasons.

Though ladislaus is obviously not my favorite, one has to give him credit for good advice here, Maria Angela. He's right.

ladislaus:

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So the overall impression one gets is that the place (Boston, KY) appears to be dysfunctional. More than any of these things, I would avoid Boston due to 1) the dubious Ambrose celebrating doubtful Sacraments there, 2) the borderline-schismatic red-lightism demanded by Father Pfeiffer, 3) total lack of confidence in Father Pfeiffer's judgment due to #1 and #2 above, 4) the cult-like mentality evidenced by many in the Boston compound, and 5) the disturbing presence of one nameless Meshicano.

Good summary actually. I'm proud of you, ladi, not to mentioned, somewhat startled by flashes of perspicacity. :surprised:

Matthew · « **Reply #12 on:** September 29, 2015, 09:21:13 AM »

See, this is why it's only fair to go into details.

Everyone should be able to judge for themselves if the charges are serious enough to avoid that group.

For example, I was browsing for church equipment yesterday (Monday -- not on Sunday! hahaha) and I caught something that made me laugh and shake my head.

This was on eBay. At the bottom of the product's page, there was a notice "We are closed on Sunday and Holy Days. Please do not buy or pay for any of our items on Sunday."

...yeah, because computers need a break from mundane affairs to allow more time to worship God and think about spiritual matters on Sunday. :rolleyes:

Sad to say, that is not even close to the first time I've seen that kind of scrupulosity from Trads.

For some of them, if you steered the conversation (and their thinking) the right way, I'm sure you could convince them, alongside certain Jews, that "making a fire" on Sunday is servile work, and that you can't make your oven do it either. So you would create special ovens with "Sunday mode" where the oven would stay at a very low temperature all day, and you just turn up the heat as needed, but you wouldn't be actually kindling any "fire".

I could have some fun with them, if I wanted to. I would offer that creating more electricity demand than "necessary" -- for example, by running your oven, causes more people to have to work at the power plant, causing a certain % more people to have to miss Mass.

By the way, our oven actually has that "Sabbath Mode", so it's a true story. Some modern-day Jews actually are that Pharisaical.

But I bet you could get some Trads to line up right alongside them, when it comes to scrupulosity about their observance of Sunday.

They won't write books on Sunday, browse any kind of e-commerce website, etc. and they're left with "watching old movies" which are objectively full of errors from a Catholic standpoint, even if they are from the "good old days".

hollingsworth · « **Reply #13 on:** September 29, 2015, 09:29:26 AM »

TheRealMcCoy:

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Based on what evidence (do people think Boston is a good seminary)? That more than 50% of the seminarians left this summer and are now at other Resistance seminaries and won't return? Of the warm fuzzies they get from the missionary priests? Well I get the warm fuzzies too when I hear fearless sermons about vanquishing Jews and the courageous Blackrobes.

50% left, you say? Three left during the summer. That must mean that three seminarians are left. My understanding presently is that there are virtually no seminarians left. That would bring us closer to 100%, wouldn't.

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Not one seminarian has received tonsure. And that's not because the bishops are mean. It's because these seminarians are not being properly formed. Bishops have a duty to not rubber stamp men through the process.

I think it is probably pretty obvious to most that these seminarians are not properly formed. I am waiting for a certain individual to step forward and explain just why they have not been properly formed.

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What paulfhc has posted is true and what angela is posting is true. Heck even most of what hollingsworth is posting is true. But instead of action we get finger wagging about detraction. Are you kidding me? Since when is warning someone they are going into danger detraction? There are some seriously scrupulous trads out there. I'm so glad to not be a trad. Just a faithful Catholic.

So you see? Heck, even I am telling the truth, already, at least most of the time.

Matthew · « **Reply #14 on:** September 29, 2015, 09:30:11 AM »

I just thought of something else pretty important.

What if I put at the bottom of my eBay page,

"I am a devout Catholic, and I take off on Sunday, but my computer does not. Go ahead and browse/buy all you want on Sunday!"

What would the scrupulous person (above) say about me, if someone asked about my site?

He would probably not recommend my site, but since he probably knows deep down that few people agree with him/he sounds silly/he is silly (take your pick), he would probably give some vague reason, like "He doesn't respect all of God's commandments".

That way he doesn't sound silly, his own extreme views aren't spotlighted, etc.

If I do say so myself, I think I'm onto something here.

In other words, it's not just POSSIBLE that vague accusations could turn out to be nothing, but in 9 cases out of 10 it is PROBABLE that they are!

After all, when you're wrong (and everyone knows it) you can't very well demonize your enemy by pointing out things he's doing that are innocent (according to most people) but wrong (according to you and you alone).

And by being vague, you can disagree with/attack your "enemy" while being "truthful" and letting your hearers make more of it than they should. Kind of like a mental reservation. "He's not here right now" (for you). Most people are not going to assume the "for you" part. Except me. hahaha

It's just one more of those human nature, human psychology things.