2. But here again, you Resistance folk openly contradict yourselves at every turn. Bishop Williamson himself said that if the Holy Father were to offer him and Resistance priests a unilateral recognition, His Excellency would "be on the next plane to Rome, I'd be on the next plane to Rome!" The posters here, including Graham and others who critiqued this statement, surely remember this.
When you make the effort to single me out you should try to recall what I actually posted. My interpretation of his comment was very different from the divisive spin you gave it.
Bishop Williamson must be speaking of founding a society. He will not do that without authorization by Rome, and since he will not seek or receive such authorization, he says "get used to" the idea of a loose cooperation under his moral authority.
A few posters, attempting to defend Bp. Williamson's ill-framed remarks, seem to have inadvertently stated that a practical agreement sans doctrinal resolution is actually acceptable, contrary to everything the Resistance has been saying for 2+years. Another has reaffirmed the myth that traditionalists are in an "irregular" position in relation to Modernist Rome. We must reject these notions.
I listened to a bit of a sermon, and it is excellent, but I don't think it is consistent with what many Resistance priests have maintained in the course of the earlier back and forth polemics with the Society. His Excellency +Williamson states precisely what the SSPX is stating today, and has always stated, - that if a regularized structure without compromise is possible, it can be accepted for the good of the Church.
Fr. Hewko was cited earlier in this thread and Fr. Chazal likewise said, "Since that fateful month of may 2012 my specific intent has always remained the same : “That the SSPX and the New Rome remain separate until Rome converts”. http://www.therecusant.com/fr-chazal-war-aims A brief Google search shows Fr. Pfeiffer among others who have expressed themselves in a similar way. Just recently, there was an article by the Dominicans of Avrille posted here against His Excellency +Fellay considering even a simple ad-hoc "recognition of tolerance". So how does one maintain that such a hypothetical Roman proposal should absolutely be refused, while thinking a hypothetical Roman proposal for a structure for the Resistance would be a good and acceptable thing?
I maintain that +Williamson is employing an exaggerated rhetorical device to explain his view that ordinary jurisdiction is required to found a religious order. I don't believe he is making a real position statement about his willingness to deal with modernist Rome, since that would contradict especially the last 2+ years of his life in the resistance, and of his teaching before that. Remember that actions speak louder than words.
I add that Dr. David Allen White messaged me at the time, unsolicited, to say that my understanding was correct. Now you are again advancing your misinterpretation of his remarks in another attempt to sow discord among us.
So what now? Has even that changed? We are going to refuse even a unilateral regularization from the Pope? Incredible. Unheard of. Based on what exactly in Tradition? Is it the dogma that says one must live outside the communion of the Roman Church and Her Sovereign Pontiff in order to please God and find salvation? Anybody who disagrees that the refusal of a unilateral recognition of a society by Rome is ridiculous show me anything - a Pope, a Saint, a Doctor - saying Catholic societies can be indifferent to the will of Rome and the Pope.
This is not actually unilateral, as I remarked upthread. This is bilateral politics through and through. Some "Year of Mercy." Meetings between SSPX and Newrome officials have been intensifying under Francis. For instance, this year, Bp. Fellay revealed that he was given jurisdiction by the pope to decide certain canonical cases; the SSPX in Argentina was legally recognized as part of the Conciliar Church; Newrome sent representatives to SSPX installations, who received the red carpet and made their various favourable reports. With this latest news, I understand, at last, exactly how duplicitous and slimy they will be in pursuing the destruction of the Archbishop's work and the despoiling of their flock's faith.