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Matthew · « **Reply #50 on:** April 29, 2016, 11:54:03 AM »

If Franciscan Solitary had been alive in 33 AD, he would have been one of those ignorant disciples waiting for Our Lord to overthrow the Roman government and restore the Kingdom of Israel politically.

Obviously God's ways are not our ways.

And some things never change. Throughout history, you have men whose thoughts, ideas, and goals scarcely rise above this World.

Croixalist · « **Reply #51 on:** April 29, 2016, 12:00:33 PM »

Miracles will most certainly be required. The normal kind of credentials won't cut it. Hopefully, we'll be trained enough to be able to discern a nutty cult group from a legitimate Catholic counterstrike along the lines of the Cristeros or something. There will always be some who go for the bait though.

Matthew · « **Reply #52 on:** April 29, 2016, 03:33:17 PM »

Quote from: Croixalist

Miracles will most certainly be required. The normal kind of credentials won't cut it. Hopefully, we'll be trained enough to be able to discern a nutty cult group from a legitimate Catholic counterstrike along the lines of the Cristeros or something. There will always be some who go for the bait though.

Indeed, some go for the bait. Like the followers of these guys:

Quote from: Acts ch. 5

[34] But one in the council rising up, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, respected by all the people, commanded the men to be put forth a little while. [35] And he said to them: Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what you intend to do, as touching these men.

[36] For before these days rose up Theodas, affirming himself to be somebody, to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all that believed him were scattered, and brought to nothing. [37] After this man, rose up Judas of Galilee, in the days of the enrolling, and drew away the people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as consented to him, were dispersed.

During the earthly life of Jesus of Nazareth, there were several men like Theodas and Judas of Galilee.

For every Dr. Pepper, you have your cheap imitations (Mr. Pibb, Dr. B, Dr. Thunder, etc.)

Columba · « **Reply #53 on:** April 30, 2016, 01:53:19 PM »

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Franciscan Solitary,

First of all, I want to point out that you STILL haven't clearly denied that you're calling for ѕυιcιdє vests, snipers, and IEDs emblazoned with Catholic logos instead of Muslim ones.

I understand what FS is getting at, or at least his words resonate with me even if I can't be certain that they mean for me exactly what FS intended. If you cannot understand, perhaps it is because you are putting the cart before the horse. You wish to have tactics and strategy spelled out before assenting to the goal. Is the goal of restoration worthy of great sacrifice and effort?

Most Catholic men today would say no if they were truly being honest because deep down they see themselves, collectively, as consummate losers. That opinion is false. However, if it was true I would have to agree because no amount of effort by consummate losers could result in the victory of restoration. Another impediment is a kind of loser theology which holds that men daring to fight for restoration would be sinfully guilty of hubris. We are supposed to wait in prayer for God to deliver the victory, or whatever He intends, on a silver platter. The duties of men in this scenario are no different from those of women.

More than the malfactions of liberals, muslims, or jews, I think the greatest reason for the defeat of the Social Kingdom of Christ has been an illogical and almost suicidal loser mentality that has gradually taken over the minds of Catholic men. It is like a tiny mind virus or parasite started in our minds maybe 500 years ago and after each generation grew larger and more voracious in consuming the energy of its host. Banish that loser mentality, and the vistas of possibility open up again.

Let's say I have done that and have committed myself as a soldier in the fight for restoration. What then?

o Train as a soldier within the bounds of my current state. Improve diet, lift weights a couple times per week, and go to the range several times per year.

o Form or join an organization made exclusively of like-minded men. A man cannot serve as a soldier without fellows.

o Develop strategy and tactics suitable to the terrain of the present battlefield. For an organization, this would certainly involve developing a network of successful corporations.

A soldier is deadly serious about accomplishing his mission. He will not waste time on fantasy scenarios or waste his life to "go out in a blaze of glory." Finally, as a soldier he recognizes the superiority of the sword over the pen, or more specifically, of action over yakking.

Humans are not very rational beings and so are mostly impervious to logical argument but they often at least recognize success when they see it. "Many are called but few are chosen." It is probably true that most Catholic men are unwilling or unsuitable for action. If one is suitable or wishes to become so, he should proceed without waiting for others to tag along.

Columba · « **Reply #54 on:** April 30, 2016, 02:09:14 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

Some men are just not called to be soldiers.

I think that every Catholic is man is called to fight for the restoration as best he can. However, I recognize it is not realistic to imagine all Catholic men will see things this way.

Quote from: Matthew

And here is the real problem: we don't have a king or legitimate army that we can be drafted into.

It would be nice if we had a king, but remember that every kingdom was born in a time of turmoil when there were no such clear lines of demarcation. We need to think outside the box.