Author Topic: Fr. Voigt exposes Fr. Pfeiffer, Boston KY seminary, SSPX-MC, OLMC (Read 22564 times)

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #15 on:** March 01, 2016, 01:24:02 PM »

Franciscan Solitary, nice quote from the Bard, but please dumb down your message for us.

Incredulous · « **Reply #16 on:** March 01, 2016, 07:59:08 PM »

Naw, he just wants us to literally get out there and fight.

The fight is now and we Catholics won't have this chance again.

To kick it all off, can someone convince +W to consecrate an ex military, fighting bishop?

B from A · « **Reply #17 on:** March 01, 2016, 08:26:50 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

Maybe my iced tea hasn't kicked in yet (or maybe I'd need to make use of a different kind of "tea" -- the kind that is only legal in certain states today), but I can't make heads or tails of what Franciscan Solitary is getting at.

Maybe he's cryptic on purpose, as an exercise, to get us all debating and talking for hours about what he means. Maybe that's his real goal.

I have an automatic 'filter' when I scroll through threads, and mine learned to automatically skip over FS's posts a while back, when one reaction to his post was, "I'll have what he's having." And another said, "Up the dosage."

[No offense, FS.

]

BJ5 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 02, 2016, 11:05:57 AM »

Quote from: Incredulous

Naw, he just wants us to literally get out there and fight.

The fight is now and we Catholics won't have this chance again.

To kick it all off, can someone convince +W to consecrate an ex military, fighting bishop?

Unfortunately, there are not many Traditional priests living outside of Boston that desire to be consecrated.

Alexandria · « **Reply #19 on:** March 02, 2016, 11:19:16 AM »

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What is to be done? Simple. Rather than mope about, Catholic men ought to abandon the escapism of endlessly hiding behind meaningless juridical hair-splittings regarding the precise status of the usurpers in the Vatican or the subtle existential meanings of the good Bishop Williamson’s latest vapours apropos the everchanging numbers of angels on the heads of unspecified pins and proceed to do something entirely different:

Namely, to pick up their Crosses (i.e., their swords), boldly march forth and conquer. It has been done before and it is already being done again. The proverbial ship has come in and the Catholic men who do not wish to miss theirs had best scamble aboard before the limited reservations are full up.

:applause:

Ladislaus · « **Reply #20 on:** March 02, 2016, 12:59:18 PM »

Quote from: Father Voigt

Now the poison of this man's tongue has set Fr. Pfeiffer against priests and bishops and effectively has driven a wedge in the resistance community.

Pablo = Grima Wormtongue?

Franciscan Solitary · « **Reply #21 on:** March 03, 2016, 01:47:30 AM »

Quote from: Alexandria

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What is to be done? Simple. Rather than mope about, Catholic men ought to abandon the escapism of endlessly hiding behind meaningless juridical hair-splittings regarding the precise status of the usurpers in the Vatican or the subtle existential meanings of the good Bishop Williamson’s latest vapours apropos the everchanging numbers of angels on the heads of unspecified pins and proceed to do something entirely different:

Namely, to pick up their Crosses (i.e., their swords), boldly march forth and conquer. It has been done before and it is already being done again. The proverbial ship has come in and the Catholic men who do not wish to miss theirs had best scamble aboard before the limited reservations are full up.

:applause:

Thank you very kindly, my Lady. Thank you indeed.

Matthew · « **Reply #22 on:** April 23, 2016, 04:56:26 PM »

Odd that this has never really been resolved. Business as usual in Boston, KY.

OHCA · « **Reply #23 on:** April 23, 2016, 05:19:19 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

Odd that this has never really been resolved. Business as usual in Boston, KY.

Hasn't ManuelChavez whipped them into shape yet?

Prayerful · « **Reply #24 on:** April 23, 2016, 06:53:47 PM »

Matthew noted how Fr Pfeiffer mistook being busy, even hectic for actually doing things. An unwillingness to to devolve what likely were several good jobs to other priests or seminarians of a few years standing, is a big character flaw. Men don't get trained on essential tasks. Moreover, a leader's most important task is strategy. He may feel he can work the phones, or some other task, better than anyone, but if he cannot let go a bit, all momentum is lost.

ManuelChavez · « **Reply #25 on:** April 23, 2016, 10:05:54 PM »

Quote from: OHCA

Quote from: Matthew
Odd that this has never really been resolved. Business as usual in Boston, KY.

Hasn't ManuelChavez whipped them into shape yet?

I once found a horse.
I named it Fred.
I took it some water,
but it was quite dead.
And since I was angry,
I beat it instead.
I buried the horse,
And then went to bed.

OHCA · « **Reply #26 on:** April 24, 2016, 10:34:07 AM »

Quote from: ManuelChavez

Quote from: OHCA
Quote from: Matthew
Odd that this has never really been resolved. Business as usual in Boston, KY.

Hasn't ManuelChavez whipped them into shape yet?

I once found a horse.
I named it Fred.
I took it some water,
but it was quite dead.
And since I was angry,
I beat it instead.
I buried the horse,
And then went to bed.

I am pleased to hear that you are no longer spinning your wheels with Pfeifferville. I, too, initially had high hopes for the cause.

Cantarella · « **Reply #27 on:** April 24, 2016, 10:48:56 AM »

Quote from: Franciscan Solitary

And since any functional Roman clergy is disappearing with all the rapidity the most rabid anti-clerical could desire, what indeed is to be done? Might this lowly writer make the modest proposal that what is urgently required is many many fighting Roman bishops, and anything but no bishops. Catholics would benefit from bishops the more militant the better in place of absurdly milk toast careerists quivering with fear in the face of unprecedented opportunities that dangerously threaten their shamelessly comatose comforts.

Our bishops need but perform their various historic duties and the world would soon be at the feet of the Roman Catholic remnant. But that men were found with testosterone levels sufficient to the task, alas. In any case, it is not our opportunities or the means that are lacking. As is said, the fault lies all too entirely only in ourselves. We are in the Lent to End All Lents and the Transfiguration of the Romans is straight ahead of us as inescapably and inexorably as the dawn.

What is to be done? Simple. Rather than mope about, Catholic men ought to abandon the escapism of endlessly hiding behind meaningless juridical hair-splittings regarding the precise status of the usurpers in the Vatican or the subtle existential meanings of the good Bishop Williamson’s latest vapours apropos the everchanging numbers of angels on the heads of unspecified pins and proceed to do something entirely different:

Namely, to pick up their Crosses (i.e., their swords), boldly march forth and conquer. It has been done before and it is already being done again. The proverbial ship has come in and the Catholic men who do not wish to miss theirs had best scamble aboard before the limited reservations are full up.

To quote the Bard:

“There is a tide in the affairs of men.?
Which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;?
Omitted, all the voyage of their life?
Is bound in shallows and in miseries.?
On such a full sea are we now afloat,?
And we must take the current when it serves,?
Or lose our ventures.”

And, dear Catholic ladies, please be sure to give the Catholic gentlemen a good hard kick in our lazy behinds now and then. These days we are often sorely in need of some such prompt assistance from you.

Just this.

Franciscan Solitary · « **Reply #28 on:** April 24, 2016, 01:41:20 PM »

Quote from: BJ5

Quote from: Incredulous
Naw, he just wants us to literally get out there and fight.

The fight is now and we Catholics won't have this chance again.

To kick it all off, can someone convince +W to consecrate an ex military, fighting bishop?

Unfortunately, there are not many Traditional priests living outside of Boston that desire to be consecrated.

"We Catholics" will have our chances many many times again. It's the individual Catholic men of the current generation who are in need of some timely and urgent sense of duty. So to speak, their ship has come into port. Catholic Nationalism has not enjoyed such bright prospects since long ago in the 1920s. In truth the present time has many striking similarities with the 1920s, except that our enemies (broadly speaking, Jєωry and their Judas priests, usurers and politicians) have not been so shattered and weak in recorded human history so far: That our leading enemies are Obama and Netanyahu speaks incredibly well for our prospects. Hence the usual excuses of our Catholic men for their habitual cowardice are running extremely thin. The prevailing defeatism of our men is shameful beyond words and hierarchic episcopal and monarchic Roman discipline is exactly what is required.

The ordination and consecration of some ex-Marines and the like might be very much in order, perhaps at the behest of Presidents Trump and Le Pen. Perhaps some scholarly and erudite bishop such as Bishop Williamson may be induced to do this. Most of the early Christian saints were Roman soldiers and that might set the best example for our male Catholic contemporaries. The Emperor Constantine was also a great Catholic warrior saint!

In any case those with eyes to see and ears to hear will notice that something very like an historic Category Five hurricane is currently arising on every human horizon. Catholic laymen who stupidly persist in spitting against it are likely to be in for quite an unpleasant shock.

This is not the time for hypocritical Catholic defeatism.

JPaul · « **Reply #29 on:** April 24, 2016, 02:05:31 PM »

Well said, Fransiscan Solitary

:applause:

I can see that you still believe.