Author Topic: Fr Scotts Replacement (Read 11857 times)

John Grace · « **Reply #10 on:** October 01, 2012, 02:57:39 PM »

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spoke in favor of arranged marriages,

there is some truth there, though informal, Trads getting their kids together and fostering potential matches........not actual arranged, but could nudge toward that.....

Not if they use the confessional and the SSPX "red tape" to manipulate the outcome.

Priests shouldn't have anything to do with trying to set up arranged marriages or trying to militarize SSPX academies, or in trying to branding a man as mentally ill from the pulpit after you interfered with his marriage.

There's a problem with out of control arrogance in these priests.

Whilst I disagree with telesphorus in relation to arranged marriages and a militarized SSPX academy. I was recently in a former school and guns were on display though not a Society school. We must remember Catholics are not meant to be pacifist.

Where I do agree with telesphorus is this business of branding people mentally ill or mad.Disagreeing is one thing but branding somebody mad is disgusting and uncatholic.

There is no doubt some Society priests are arrogant.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #11 on:** October 01, 2012, 03:06:26 PM »

John Grace, the desire for military schools and arranged marriages has absolutely nothing to do with Catholic teachings, and has everything to do with power and control, and instilling a cult of obedience.

This sort of thing becomes sacrilegious when priests get involved. Priests are not supposed to engage in combat, (yet they want to militarize the boys schools?) and they aren't supposed to being involved in arranging who marries who. (that in particular is very characteristic of cults) This emphasis on control - backed up by the threat of ostracism and of being branded as mentally ill, is not Catholic, it's characteristic of a cult.

jman123 · « **Reply #12 on:** October 01, 2012, 03:22:25 PM »

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John Grace, the desire for military schools and arranged marriages has absolutely nothing to do with Catholic teachings, and has everything to do with power and control, and instilling a cult of obedience.

This sort of thing becomes sacrilegious when priests get involved. Priests are not supposed to engage in combat, (yet they want to militarize the boys schools?) and they aren't supposed to being involved in arranging who marries who. (that in particular is very characteristic of cults) This emphasis on control - backed up by the threat of ostracism and of being branded as mentally ill, is not Catholic, it's characteristic of a cult.

what do you mean by the militarization of schools?

Telesphorus · « **Reply #13 on:** October 01, 2012, 03:25:12 PM »

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what do you mean by the militarization of schools?

I mean treating the boys as though they're in a military academy, with military discipline. There's a time and a place for military discipline. A desire to push it on people, outside of a genuinely military context, is highly suspect.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of bored, manipulative old men who want to play martinet. Way too many of them.

wallflower · « **Reply #14 on:** October 01, 2012, 03:44:51 PM »

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Quote from: Belloc
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spoke in favor of arranged marriages,

there is some truth there, though informal, Trads getting their kids together and fostering potential matches........not actual arranged, but could nudge toward that.....

Not if they use the confessional and the SSPX "red tape" to manipulate the outcome.

Priests shouldn't have anything to do with trying to set up arranged marriages or trying to militarize SSPX academies, or in trying to branding a man as mentally ill from the pulpit after you interfered with his marriage.

There's a problem with out of control arrogance in these priests.

Whilst I disagree with telesphorus in relation to arranged marriages and a militarized SSPX academy. I was recently in a former school and guns were on display though not a Society school. We must remember Catholics are not meant to be pacifist.

Where I do agree with telesphorus is this business of branding people mentally ill or mad.Disagreeing is one thing but branding somebody mad is disgusting and uncatholic.

There is no doubt some Society priests are arrogant.

Not nearly as arrogant as Telesphorus who thinks he can expound on anything even things of which he knows nothing. This couple was exceptionally indiscreet and loudly aired their own dirty laundry to the point that Fr was forced to address their rumors publicly. I never before nor have since seen a couple get that nasty in their divorce and involve the whole parish.

Nor did he speak about arranged marriages in the sense that we must implement them, he simply drew parallels and made comparisons between arranged marriages and those of today, also different kinds of love, pointing out some of the pros in arranged marriage. Why that's taboo to Tele, God only knows. Perhaps it's something outside his realm of understanding, therefore it must be condemned. :rolleyes:

I asked a simple question, Tele. Take your calumny to your own thread.