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Re: Fr. Schmidberger on the death of Msgr Williamson
« Reply #65 on: February 04, 2025, 03:23:26 PM »
Is it possible to get some screengrabs or some incontrovertible proof of this newsletter from Schmidberger?

I'm not doubting it, but we can't expect anyone else to believe it just because it's written on a forum.
I could ask him next Sunday, but I don't really doubt it's him. I am a bit surprised, because I thought he was a more conservative priest, as he is a monarchist and everything. But I guess that was in 2008, when his Wikipedia page was written.

The German clergy hopes that Francis "in an eccentric moment" will give them new bishops and that's somehow supposed to help the situation (???). I've also personally argued with Fr. Pfluger, who shares the viewpoint, which Fr. Schmidberger presented in 2016: https://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2016/04/the-moment-has-come-to-normalize.html

Fr. Pfluger (who I supposes shares this thinking with Fr. Schmidberger, if the letter is from him), sees the "necessity" of consecrating bishops tied to the fact that "well there are still 2 bishops alive, so there's no necessity to consecrate bishops, maybe Francis will have a change of heart now". My attempt to explain to him that it would be a trap by Rome to get them under their authority fell on deaf ears. Post 2012 they completely lost the plot on what their actual mission is and where their jurisdiction comes from. So now they think his 2015 excommunications are valid, because there was more than one bishop left. The "lifting" of the "excommunications" was a clever trick to get them back under modernist authority, even without a formal signature. Most of the German laity are not independent thinkers, sadly. They go and fall with whatever their priest says. Few educate themselves about VII, even fewer suspect that there's anything wrong.

My assessment is that he was brainwashed to believe in the h0Ɩ0cαųst, as most German boomers of his generation are (without internet and public schools, there's little they could do). Or, he "fears the Jews" in the Bundestag to shut down German chapels. Nowadays this is much less risky, since German Zoomers are redpilled on the Jews because of TikTok, plus there are a lot more ex-Muslim converts who "know", but in 2010 it would have been a hard line to hold in BRD-Germany. I do, to some extent, understand that the German SSPX can't go all-out on the Jews, because they'd simply be banned. But it's uncharitable to put it into an eulogy 15 years later.

He does however, still celebrate very reverent Masses, I didn't have the impressions that he rushes Mass. I'd be careful with judgements, but then again I haven't been part of the SSPX for very long, I can't tell how things developed over the years. I can only say that the German priests are pretty bad on moral theology compared to the US ones.

I think it's fair to criticize +Williamsons apparitionism, promotion of false visionaries like Maria Valtora, promotion of dubious Eucharistic miracles, etc. (I hope these errors will die out now), but he was dead-on when it came to the historical role of the Jews trying to sabotage the Church, the core errors of Vatican II and standing up to +Fellay going back to Rome. See Fr. Hewko on how you can criticize a bishop while also remaining respectful.

It's very ironic, I was on my way to Stuttgart last Sunday, but I couldn't make it due to some circuмstances. Maybe it's a sign that I shouldn't go there anymore. I am personally "on my way out" of the SSPX if I can get a better job and relocate near a Resistance chapel, the only reason I still support the neo-SSPX to some limited extent is because they have valid sacraments (I don't want to be donatist and I'm still obliged to go as long as the sacrament is not doubtful and the priest is not teaching errors in the sermon) and they still do serve a purpose when converting non-Catholics (it's hard to go "only Resistance Mass" mode when there is only one Resistance priest my country). Hopefully I can be out of that situation soon.

His E-Mail is indexed at https://hunter.io/email-finder - I don't want to post it here in order to not provoke bots to mail him. If you input "fsspx.de" into the domain + his name, you can find his E-Mail.

Re: Fr. Schmidberger on the death of Msgr Williamson
« Reply #66 on: February 04, 2025, 06:28:28 PM »
See Fr. Hewko on how you can criticize a bishop while also remaining respectful.
Did you mean "how to αssαssιnαtҽ a bishop while remaining respectful, while at the same time leading countless Catholics to a life with no Mass and no sacraments"?


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Re: Fr. Schmidberger on the death of Msgr Williamson
« Reply #67 on: February 05, 2025, 09:26:12 PM »
I personally think the bishop was already kind of senile in his later years. After 40 years of fighting modernists, that's understandable, but nevertheless bad for the faithful.
      I don't agree with this " senile" term. It was remarkable that, to the very end, you could watch his sermon videos, for Sundays esp...he would hold on to this very small missal, all tattered and ancient, yet his mind was admirably smart, and explained mysteries as much as is humanly possible.  So, yes, sometimes he would forget a detail here and there, but his love of Catholic culture invariably trumped any memory lapse. Actually, the last three sermons, they were perfect. The Epiphany if I recall was special. But yes, he wouldn't talk for an hour. "His Excellency" is what it says:  Bishop Williamson was E X C E L L EN T !
     He was very hospitable to me in Winona. He actually composed a little 4 line poem for me. Let's just finish by saying he was dignified, had integrity as Fr Chazal just spoke.... Once in a while he would use the French expression: " Noblesse oblige" which roughly translates to: When you hold a higher public office, walk the walk and talk the talk.
 Pray for he repose of his soul,... RIP +

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Re: Fr. Schmidberger on the death of Msgr Williamson
« Reply #68 on: February 05, 2025, 10:47:52 PM »
I don't care how much of a "fanbase" +Williamson has, Fr. Hewko was right to correct him, like +Ballini eventually did. I don't follow persons, I follow truth and most priests in the Resistance were just silent out of "respect" for the bishop, but many knew that he was propagating errors. But Hewko never "hated" him, he just wanted to stop this nonsense and not get people infected with error. I hope that things will be better now, I personally think the bishop was already kind of senile in his later years. After 40 years of fighting modernists, that's understandable, but nevertheless bad for the faithful.

Correcting the errors of other Traditionalists seems to be the central mission of Fr. Hewko.

Re: Fr. Schmidberger on the death of Msgr Williamson
« Reply #69 on: February 19, 2025, 01:41:06 PM »
Father Schmidberger also has an uncanny resemblance to Cardinal Rampolla
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