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Author Topic: Fr. Schmidberger on the death of Msgr Williamson  (Read 57553 times)

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Re: Fr. Schmidberger on the death of Msgr Williamson
« Reply #50 on: February 03, 2025, 05:20:27 PM »
^^^^ My efforts to find it have failed. Does anyone have it?
His eyes need to be blistered by opprobrium heaped upon him.
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Re: Fr. Schmidberger on the death of Msgr Williamson
« Reply #51 on: February 03, 2025, 05:24:03 PM »
Why are we giving so much screen time to Schidberger? 
CI has tons more members/followers than his weekly whatever.

We are just enabling him in distributing his poison.  It didn't have to be translated for wider distribution.
Bishop Williamson responded to his ousting then remained silent on the subject.
Let his response be enough and follow his example of silence.  He had CLASS.

Yeah, so more of the same snivelling response that we saw from +Fellay above.  Sure, His Excellency remained silent, which is why Schmidberger attacked him for causing "confusion" and "error" via his Eleison Comments.


Re: Fr. Schmidberger on the death of Msgr Williamson
« Reply #52 on: February 03, 2025, 05:35:59 PM »
So after a brief paragraph talking about Bishop Williamson's good qualities, he spends the bulk of his time attacking Bishop Williamson for:

-- certain weaknesses in him
-- that led to his separation from SSPX (so it was entirely his fault, and SSPX are blameless)
-- difficult reconciling grace and natural
-- excessively credulous toward messages, apparitions, etc.
-- excessive naturalism by focusing too much on politics in his sermons and lectures
-- we warned him (who are you? and who is "we"?)
-- compromised us after dealing with charges of "anti-Semitism"
-- defiance of Society's authorities
-- errors and confusion caused in KE comments
-- episcopal consecrations that lack any objective necessity (Schmidberger = measure of objectivity) and any sensus ecclesiae

So one could spend a long time on each of these points, and I will take them up one by one in defense of His Excellency as I have time, possibly putting them all together later and publishing an open rejection of Schmidberger's vile attack
I think Bishop Williamson pretty much summed it up in that wonderful EC: Alice was in Wonderland, and the SSPX wanted to be in Huonderland. Fr Schmidberger has been too long in Huonderland. I imagine it was very pleasant there on Dies Judaeicus. There, you don't have to worry about history or reality or validity, you just live the dream! And these comments of poor old Fr Schmidberger certainly show him to be in a dream world. But then again, he probably had to say such things to keep alive his ultimate dream of a deal with Rome. After all, he and Bishop Fellay fill those newly created positions of General Counselor to assist with such an endeavour.

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Re: Fr. Schmidberger on the death of Msgr Williamson
« Reply #53 on: February 03, 2025, 06:15:42 PM »
So, just as there are two paradigms regarding what happened to the Church:

1) many Churchmen over time had their minds contaminated with Modernism eventually got into higher offices and want to spread their "truth"
2) enemies who hated the Church infiltrated with the deliberate intention of detroying it

Same can be said of the SSPX.  You certainly have some cradle-+Fellayites who grew up in SSPX and were trained at the seminary under the nouveau rĂ©gime, but I believe that some of the old-timers are agents, infiltrators, and/or compromised.  I've long had Schmidberger toward the top of my list of suspects.

Of course, you need both, right?  If enemies had infiltrate the Church/SSPX, unless fertile ground had already been prepared for acceptance of their programme, they would simply have been rejected by the Church/SSPX, kicked out, leaving the Church unharmed.

I think Bishop Williamson leaned toward option one, where he constantly spoke of the Churchmen losing their Catholic senses.  I don't believe that.  I believe that the leaders were infiltrators, agentes, and/or compromised (blackmailed), so that the destruction was quite deliberate, but not some kind of grass roots development over time.

Re: Fr. Schmidberger on the death of Msgr Williamson
« Reply #54 on: February 03, 2025, 06:33:20 PM »
Those clandestine meetings with GREC began a long, long time ago.  The Goodship Lollipop has been listing, even sinking, for decades.