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Author Topic: Fr. Schmidberger on the death of Msgr Williamson  (Read 57497 times)

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Re: Fr. Schmidberger on the death of Msgr Williamson
« Reply #55 on: February 03, 2025, 07:46:24 PM »
So, where to begin unravelling this heaping pile of dung?  His Excellency constantly emphasized St. Thomas Aquinas' teaching that grace perfects nature, and does not destroy it.  If politics and society are broken, it would make it difficult for the seeds of True Religion to grow and flourish, just like the parable of the seed cast onto the rocky soil.  So it's evidently Schmidberger who fails to recognize this.  Not only that, but the various "political" questions His Excellency delved into are not exclusively political but overlap with the spiritual chastisement.  Our Lady came to warn about errors of "Russia" (precisely those of Judaeo-Masonry), and it was none other than the Jews and the Communists who infiltrated the Church and have constructed this "ape" thereof to eclipse the True Church, so they need to be exposed.  This attitude from Schmidberger makes him sound like a Modernist buffoon in favor of separating Church and state, and dethroning Christ the King.  Only from such a mind could come the allegation that discussing the political, intellectual, philosophical, and moral climate of society is purely "natural" and has nothing to do with the faith.  Of course, that's what the Communist collaborator clergy in various countries argued as well, that there's no problem with cooperating with the civil authorities and refusing to open condemn or combat the Commie politicians.  In fact, it was Wojtyla's friendliness with the Commie officials, with the same attitude Schmidberger displays here, that allowed the Church to be taken over, including by himself.  Yet another reason to suspect Schmiddie of being an infiltrator.

In addition, while I agree that His Excellency was a bit to credulous regarding some apparitions, what does that have to do with the price of tea in China and why does it find place in a hit piece after Bishop Williamson's demise?  It has nothing to do with why he "parted ways" with SSPX, and -- ahem, Schmidberger -- what about that woman +Fellay was taking instructions from about how to wreck the SSPX?  Finally, these purported poles of grace (represented by apparitions) and nature (politics) actually have nothing to do with the relationship between grace and nature, as the discernment regarding the legitimacy of apparitions is also an exercise in natural reason, having nothing to do with grace.  So this is such a bungled mess of garbage as to bring shame on its author.

Well said.

Re: Fr. Schmidberger on the death of Msgr Williamson
« Reply #56 on: February 04, 2025, 12:42:22 AM »
THIS^^^.  Trento's constantly trying to defend neo-SSPX and has shown himself a Modernist on a variety of issues, so he's slighly attempting to minimize (and justify) the mudslinging against Williamson by falsely equating it to those attacking SSPX for having expelled him.
Did you read what Fr. Cekada wrote about +Lefebvre & +Williamson in "We Resist You to Your Face."? Go and justify all you want till kingdom come.


Re: Fr. Schmidberger on the death of Msgr Williamson
« Reply #57 on: February 04, 2025, 03:23:34 AM »
Maybe hatred was too strong a word. Is “intense dislike” better?
I think "deep disappointment" or "bitterness" is the appropriate description. People play no role for Fr. Schmidberger in their human, individual side. He knows no empathy, no love and therefore no hate. The individual is only relevant insofar as he functions as a cog in the great machine of tradition (equated with the SSPX). If he does a good job here, then he is a valuable member. But as soon as he disrupts the running of the machine, he is replaced without emotion, like an object.
Hence the bitterness about Bishop Williamson. He could have been a very capable cog and enabled great progress for the tradition (=SSPX). Instead, he has disrupted the machine and thereby prevented or slowed down the hoped-for successes.
All that matters is the progress and spread of the SSPX; he doesn't care about the individual worker. The individual is just a means to an end.

Re: Fr. Schmidberger on the death of Msgr Williamson
« Reply #58 on: February 04, 2025, 03:36:36 AM »
I vaguely recall after Bishop Williamson had discussed how the Germans (who in his estimation, while being good at other things, completely suck at philosophy), even German Cahtolics, have had this inordinate admiration for Kant, having been perhaps their most renowned "philosopher" ... and I kindof recall him taking a subtle swipe at the German Trads (perhaps even Schmidberger) for being somewhat contaminated by this thinking themselves, saying that the Germans had this need to salvage Kant by attempting to reconcile his philosophy with scholasticism / Thomism / Aristotelianism, and that it was a doomed effort that could end only in disaster because they're simply not compatible.
Just a quick note: Before Fr. Schmidberger found his way to the SSPX, while studying mathematics in Munich, he was in close contact with the philosophy professor Reinhard Lauth, who was deeply rooted in German idealism.

Re: Fr. Schmidberger on the death of Msgr Williamson
« Reply #59 on: February 04, 2025, 04:01:02 AM »
Running the German through a word counter, I get 48 words of praise (toward the beginning) and 166 of criticism/attack.  I counted the last section about resting in peace as neither.

Certainly inappropriate after someone has just passed away.  We all know what your criticisms are and they can be alluded to if you don't want your text to read an an unequivocal endorsement of everything you do.
Quantitatively speaking, only the first one and a half sentences are a positive appreciation. The rest is neutral or a criticism of various actions of the bishop.

Qualitatively speaking, the disproportion is even greater, because the first one and a half sentences do not recognize any actions/merits of the bishop, but list characteristics that he in a certain way "inherited" from his parents. So while not a single positive action is listed, many negative actions are mentioned.