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Author Topic: Fr. Schmidberger on the death of Msgr Williamson  (Read 57498 times)

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Re: Fr. Schmidberger on the death of Msgr Williamson
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2025, 08:42:14 AM »
Does this email exist on the internet? Often newsletter's have a "view in browser" function. Or can we see screengrabs?
This email is not publicly accessible via the Internet. It is sent every Monday (hence its name "Montagsaussendung" = "Monday mailing" or "Monday dispatch") to those who have signed up to receive it.


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Fr. Schmidberger on the death of Msgr Williamson
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2025, 08:43:06 AM »
Only in your head.

Please explain what is the Novus Ordo church...

And then what elements of it thereof you think make it part of the true Church...

No matter what the topic is, you're absolutely obesessive-compulsively obsessed with your own retardation, so that you stalk me around CI (unable to refute, or, even comprehend, so much as a word of what I wrote) like some raving lunatic restating the same strawman over and over again.

At no point did I say or believe that the "Novus Ordo church ... [is] ... part of the true Church".  Only in your overt stupidity can you keep thinking that I ever said this, and a brain fogged by your radically schismatic mental and spiritual defectiveness.

So, try reading this sentence 100 times over and over again, slowly, until you understand it.  While it may cause you excruciating mental pain, it's necessary:

Some people in the Novus Ordo (aka Conciliar) Church may still be Catholic due to being in material error only, while continuing to profess the faith and intending to adhere to (what they wrongly believe to be) the Magisterium, and that intent to adhere to the Magisterium is the formal motive of faith. 

This does not mean that the Conciliar Church his part of the Church, just as when St. Vincent Ferrer was subject to an Antipope, he remained a Catholic due to his error being only material in nature.


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Fr. Schmidberger on the death of Msgr Williamson
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2025, 08:45:56 AM »
This (Joannes) is what happens when morons who don't know even the basics of Aristotelian/scholastic logic (and philosophy) attempt to make theological declarations from their armchairs.

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Re: Fr. Schmidberger on the death of Msgr Williamson
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2025, 08:47:18 AM »
This email is not publicly accessible via the Internet. It is sent every Monday (hence its name "Montagsaussendung" = "Monday mailing" or "Monday dispatch") to those who have signed up to receive it.

:laugh1: ... who would even know it existed in the first place to sign up for?  I think I might pass, or else filter it into the same junk folder into which I'll send various other spam.

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Re: Fr. Schmidberger on the death of Msgr Williamson
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2025, 09:40:08 AM »

We warned him on several occasions about his comments on the h0Ɩ0cαųst, but to no avail. This led to the unfortunate interview for Swedish television on November 1, 2008, which at the end of January 2009 labeled the Society in Germany as "fascist, anti-Semitic" etc., a label we had been struggling with for years.
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For those who understand German, here is the original text:

Bischof Williamson war Engländer, Konvertit aus dem Anglikanismus, ein sehr gebildeter, sprachbegabter, intelligenter und fähiger Mann. Als solcher hat er viel Gutes in der Bruderschaft bewirkt, und dies war der Grund, weswegen ihn Erzbischof Lefebvre am 30. Juni 1988 mit den drei anderen Kandidaten zum Bioschof konsekriert hat.

Doch konnte man gewisse Schwächen bei ihm nicht übersehen, die schließlich aufgrund ihrer Zu-nahme vor etlichen Jahren zu seiner Trennung von der Bruderschaft führten:

Er hatte seine Schwierigkeiten damit, Gnade und Natur zu verbinden. Einerseits war er sehr gern bereit, Botschaften, Erscheinungen und anderen übernatürlichen Phänomenen Glaubwürdigkeit zuzusprechen; andererseits neigte er zu einem gewissen Naturalismus, indem er der Politik und den Zeiterscheinungen einen übermäßigen Platz in seinen Predigten und Vorträgen einräumte.

Wir warnten ihn verschiedentlich wegen seiner Äußerungen zum h0Ɩ0cαųst; ohne Erfolg. So kam es am 1. November 2008 zu dem unglücklichen Interview für das schwedische Fernsehen, das Ende Januar 2009 der Bruderschaft gerade in Deutschland das Etikett "faschistisch, antisemitisch" etc. umgehängt hat, mit der wir jahrelang zu kämpfen hatten.

Seine Widersetzlichkeit den Autoritäten der Bruderschaft gegenüber machte schließlich eine Trennung unabdingbar.

Die Irrungen und Verwirrungen, die er in den folgenden Jahren durch seine Kyrie-eleison-Kommentare hervorgerufen hat, möge Gott ihm verzeihen, noch mehr seine Bischofskonsekrationen, die jeder objektiven Notwendigkeit und jedem sensus ecclisiae entbehrten und entbehren.

Möge Gott ihm vielmehr seine früheren Verdienste reichlich belohnen. R.I.P.
Lad beat me to the punch!  Who is "we" supposed to represent?  It did not occur to me that the SSPX had an official h0Ɩ0cαųst Historian, in fact, is there anyone in the SSPX competent to argue the h0Ɩ0h0αx?  If there is, I have not met him.  This letter is ridiculous, very insubstantial.  It is easy to write about the dead due their inability to defend themselves.  Fr. Sch.  ought to read David Irving, whom Bp. Williamson knew personally.  Perhaps the "we" in Fr. Schi.'s letter will correct David Irving too!  Thanks for the letter, I officially wasted three minutes of my life.