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« on: August 26, 2013, 12:24:00 AM »
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  • As announced by the new German District superior, Fr. Dr. Frank Sauer (born 1943; ordained 1984) has left the SSPX on Aug 19, 2013.
    He joined Fr. Zaby and the Carmelites of Brilon-Wald.


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    Die traurige Note dieses Sonntages: Ich verkünde der Gemeinde den Abschied von Pater Sauer. Er hat entschieden, die Priesterbruderschaft zu verlassen und geht nach Brilon Wald. Hatte Erzbischof Lefebvre nicht oft darunter gelitten, dass Mitbrüder ihn verließen? Manche warfen ihn vor, er sei zu hart und ungehorsam, andere hingegen, er sei zu liberal und würde die Tradition verraten... Die Geschichte hat gezeigt, wer Recht hatte...


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    « Reply #2 on: August 26, 2013, 12:40:21 AM »
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    Fr. Zaby's strength is bearing fruit.  His courage draws the admiration of
    a fellow traveler.  We are here today as witnesses of this news, and it
    comes at a critical moment in the "TIMELINE."  


    Fr. Dr. Frank Sauer is a priest of God, who stands for principle:  He's on
    the Narrow Way, and few there are who find it!!

    See those little girls there behind him?  You wanna know something?
    They're going to tell their grandchildren about this day when they're
    old and gray.  And their progeny will ask them, "Grandma, tell us again
    about your First Communion Day!  PLEEEEEEEASE?!"  


    You're not going to hear that happen to the children who are getting
    their First-Communion-in-the-Hand!!



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    « Reply #3 on: August 26, 2013, 01:15:15 AM »
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    I don't want to derail this thread from the get-go, but I just have to
    share this.  

    I think this is really important.  



    Sequentia sancti Evangelii secundum Matthaeum
    .                                    caput xiii



    (The Purpose of Jesus' Parables ~ cf. Mark iv. 10-12)

    10  And his disciples came and said to him:  Why speakest thou to them in parables?
    11  Who answered and said to them:  Because to you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven:  but to them it is not given.
    12  For he that hath, to him shall be given, and he shall abound:  but he that hath not, from him shall be taken away that also which he hath.
    13  Therefore do I speak to them in parables;  because seeing they see not, and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
    14  And the prophecy of Isaias is fulfilled in them, who saith:  By hearing you shall hear, and shall not understand:  and seeing you shall see, and shall not perceive.
    15  For the heart of this people is grown gross, and with their ears they have been dull of hearing, and their eyes they have shut:  lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.
    16  But blessed are your eyes, because they see, and your ears, because they hear.
    17  For, amen, I say to you, many prophets and just men have desired to see the things that you see, and have not seen them:  and to hear the things that you hear and have not heard them.





    For the heart of this neo-SSPX has grown gross,
    and with their ears they have been dull of hearing,
    and their eyes they have shut:  lest at any time
    they should see with their eyes, and hear with
    their ears, and understand with their heart, and
    be converted, and I should heal them.  

    But blessed are your eyes, Fr. Dr. Frank Sauer and
    Fr. Zaby, and the dear Carmelites of Brilon-Wald,
    yes, blessed indeed are your eyes, because they
    see!  And blessed are your ears because they hear!  

    For, amen, I say to you, many prophets and just
    men have desired to see the things that you see,
    and have not seen them:  and to hear the things
    that you hear and have not heard them............




    "This day is fulfilled this scripture in your ears"
    .                                                      (Lk iv. 21)




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    « Reply #4 on: August 26, 2013, 01:31:40 AM »
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  • .the ink dried.




    14  And the prophecy of Isaias is fulfilled in them, who saith:  
    By hearing you shall hear, and shall not understand:  and
    seeing you shall see, and shall not perceive.



    Isaias vi :  

    8  And I heard the voice of the Lord, saying:  Whom shall I
    send?  and who shall go for us?  And I said:  Lo, here am I,
    send me.

    9  And he said:  Go, and thou shalt say to this people:  
    Hearing, hear, and understand not:  and see the vision,
    and know it not.


    10  Blind the heart of this people, and make their ears
    heavy, and shut their eyes:  lest they see with their eyes,
     and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart,
    and be converted and I heal them.

    11  And I said:  How long, O Lord?  And he said:  Until the
    cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without
    man, and the land shall be left desolate.

    12  And the Lord shall remove men far away, and she shall
    be multiplied that was left in the midst of the earth.



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    « Reply #5 on: August 26, 2013, 12:38:00 PM »
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    The Parable of the Weeds Explained ~ Matt. caput XIII
    (Sophonias i. 1-18; c Apocalypse xiv. 15; d Daniel xii. 3;
    Wisdom iii. 7)

    36  Then having sent away the multitudes, he came into the
    house, and his disciples came to him, saying:  Expound to us the
    parable of the cockle of the field.

    37  Who made answer and said to them:  He that soweth the
    good seed, is the Son of man.

    38  And the field is the world.  And the good seed are the
    children of the kingdom.  And the cockle are the children of the
    wicked one.

    39  And the enemy that sowed them, is the devil.  c But the
    harvest is the end of the world.  And the reapers are the angels.

    40  Even as cockle therefore is gathered up, and burnt with
    fire:  so shall it be at the end of the world.

    41  The Son of man shall send his angels, and they shall gather
    out of his kingdom all scandals, and them that work iniquity.

    42  And shall cast them into the furnace of fire:  there shall be
    weeping and gnashing of teeth.

    43  d Then shall the just shine as the sun, in the kingdom of
    their Father.  He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.




    ~He that soweth the good seed, is the Founder, ABL, and the
    field is the little Society he foundeth, with its seminaries and
    priories.  And the good seed are the priests whose formation
    he nurtureth and whose ordinations he preserveth from the
    corruption of the Newsacraments.  And the cockle are of TWO
    CATEGORIES:  ONE:  the unclean spirit of Vat.II, with its
    aggiornamento and accommodation with the spirit of the
    world including the abominable desolation of Communion-
    -standing-in-the-hand and Newsacraments;  qui legit
    intelligat
    ~
     



    Matt. xxiv. 24: 15    When therefore you shall see the
    abomination of desolation, which was spoken of by Daniel the
    prophet, standing in the holy place:  he that readeth let him
    understand.      cuм ergo videritis abominationem desolationis
    quae dicta est a Danihelo propheta stantem in loco sancto
    qui legit intellegat





    ~AND TWO:  those seminarians who entered the fledgling
    Society harboring not the purest of intention -- to which
    my son Bishop Fellay would well have referred in his most
    deplorable speech of Candlemas, 2012, but instead he
    mistakenly accused my good seed who with eyes to see had
    not persisted in the error of a false accord with modernist
    Rome qui legit intelligat -- but harboring rather an
    unclean zeal for the advancement of their own career, for
    these are all children of the wicked one.  And the enemy
    that sowed them is the devil.  But the harvest is to be a
    foretaste of the end of the world when the Great Harvest
    shall descend upon the earth, for the harvest this year
    precedes the end of the age of corruption, that end which
    cometh upon the day when the pope and bishop(s?) shall
    at long last obey My Mother's request, for it will be late.  
    And the reapers in this year's harvest are the angels whose
    vials are written in the Apocalypse of St. John, even if they
    do not yet fully deploy their power as they will at the end
    of the world.~




    "And another angel came out from the temple crying with a
    loud voice to him that sat upon the cloud:  Thrust in thy sickle,
    and reap, because the hour is come to reap:  for the harvest
    of the earth is ripe" (Apoc. xiv. 15).




    ~Even as cockle therefore is gathered up, and burnt with fire:  
    so shall it be at the end of the age of corruption.  The Son
    of man shall send his angels, and they shall gather out of his
    kingdom all scandals, and them that work iniquity  (and don't
    we all know there are many scandals and them that work
    iniquity in this adulterous generation!)  and shall cast them
    into the furnace of fire:  there shall be weeping and gnashing
    of teeth, if they have any teeth left to gnash.  And although
    they may not have eyes to see, yet they do have eyes to
    cry tears.~




    "And the Lord shall remove men far away, and she shall be
    multiplied that was left in the midst of the earth.  And there
    shall be still a tithing therein, and she shall turn, and shall be
    made a show as a turpentine tree, and as an oak that
    spreadeth its branches: that which shall stand therein, shall
    be a holy seed" (Is. vi. 12-13)

    "And many of those that sleep in the dust of the earth, shall
    awake: some unto life everlasting, and others unto reproach,
    to see it always.  But they that are learned shall shine as the
    brightness of the firmament: and they that instruct many to
    justice, as stars for all eternity.  But thou, O Daniel, shut up
    the words, and seal the book, even to the time appointed:
    many shall pass over, and knowledge shall be manifold" (Dan.
    xii. 2-4)

    "7 The just shall shine, and shall run to and fro like
    sparks among the reeds.  Fulgebunt et tamquam
    scintillae in harundineto discurrent.
    "
     (Wisdom iii. 7)




    ~Then shall the just shine as the sun, in the kingdom of their
    Father.  He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.~








    Wisdom iii. 1-19:   But the souls of the just are in the
    hand of God, and the torment of death shall not touch them.
    Iustorum autem animae in manu Dei sunt et non tanget
    illos tormentum mortis.
     In the sight of the unwise they
    seemed to die: and their departure was taken for misery:  
    And their going away from us, for utter destruction:  but
    they are in peace.  And though in the sight of men they
    suffered torments, their hope is full of immortality.  Afflicted
    in few things, in many they shall be well rewarded:  because
    God hath tried them, and found them worthy of himself.  Et
    in paucis vexati in multis bene disponentur quoniam Deus
    tentavit illos et invenit illos dignos se.
     As gold in the
    furnace, he hath proved them, and as a victim of a h0Ɩ0cαųst,
    he hath received them, and in time there shall be respect had
    to them.  Tamquam aurum in fornace probavit illos et quasi
    h0Ɩ0cαųsta hostiam accepit illos et in tempore erit respectus
    illorum.
      7 The just shall shine, and shall run to and fro
    like sparks among the reeds.  Fulgebunt et tamquam
    scintillae in harundineto discurrent.
     They shall judge
    nations, and rule over people, and their Lord shall reign for
    ever.  They that trust in him shall understand the truth: and
    they that are faithful in love, shall rest in him:  for grace and
    peace are to his elect.  Qui confidunt in illum intellegent
    veritatem et fideles in dilectione adquiescent illi quoniam
    donum et pax est electis illius.
     But the wicked shall be
    punished according to their own devices:  who have neglected
    the just, and have revolted from the Lord.  Impii autem
    secundum quae cogitaverunt correptionem habebunt qui
    neglexerunt iustum et a Domino recesserunt.
     For he that
    rejecteth wisdom, and discipline, is unhappy:  and their hope
    is vain, and their labours without fruit, and their works
    unprofitable.  Their wives are foolish, and their children
    wicked.  Their offspring is cursed, for happy is the barren:
    and the undefiled, that hath not known bed in sin, she shall
    have fruit in the visitation of holy souls.  And the eunuch,
    that hath not wrought iniquity with his hands, nor thought
    wicked things against God for the precious gift of faith shall
    be given to him, and a most acceptable lot in the temple of
    God.   For the fruit of good labours is glorious, and the root
    of wisdom never faileth.     But the children of adulterers
    shall not come to perfection, and the seed of the unlawful
    bed shall be rooted out.     And if they live long, they shall be
    nothing regarded, and their last old age shall be without
    honour.     And if they die quickly, they shall have no hope,
    nor speech of comfort in the day of trial.   For dreadful are the
    ends of a wicked race.  




    The Prophesy of Sophonias (a.k.a. "Zephaniah" in KJV), Chapter 1:

    1   1   The word of the Lord that came to Sophonias the son of Chusi, the son of Godolias, the son of Amarias, the son of Ezechias, in the days of Josias, the son of Amon king of Juda.   verbum Domini quod factum est ad Sofoniam filium Chusi filium Godoliae filii Amariae filii Ezechiae in diebus Iosiae filii Amon regis Iuda
    1   2   Gathering, I will gather together all things from off the face of the land, saith the Lord:   congregans congregabo omnia a facie terrae dicit Dominus
    1   3   I will gather man, and beast, I will gather the birds of the air, and the fishes of the sea: and the ungodly shall meet with ruin:  and I will destroy men from off the face of the land, saith the Lord.   congregans hominem et pecus congregans volatile caeli et pisces maris et ruinae impiorum erunt et disperdam homines a facie terrae dicit Dominus
    1   4   And I will stretch out my hand upon Juda, and upon all the inhabitants of Jerusalem:  and I will destroy out of this place the remnant of Baal, and the names of the wardens of the temples with the priests:   et extendam manum meam super Iudam et super omnes habitantes Hierusalem et disperdam de loco hoc reliquias Baal et nomina aedituorum cuм sacerdotibus
    1   5   And them that worship the host of heaven upon the tops of houses, and them that adore, and swear by the Lord, and swear by Melchom.   et eos qui adorant super tecta militiam caeli et adorant et iurant in Domino et iurant in Melchom
    1   6   And them that turn away from following after the Lord, and that have not sought the Lord, nor searched after him.   et qui avertuntur de post tergum Domini et qui non quaesierunt Dominum nec investigaverunt eum
    1   7   Be silent before the face of the Lord God: for the day of the Lord is near, for the Lord hath prepared a victim, he hath sanctified his guests.   silete a facie Domini Dei quia iuxta est dies Domini quia praeparavit Dominus hostiam sanctificavit vocatos suos
    1   8   And it shall come to pass in the day of the victim of the Lord, that I will visit upon the princes, and upon the king's sons, and upon all such as are clothed with strange apparel:      et erit in die hostiae Domini visitabo super principes et super filios regis et super omnes qui induti sunt veste peregrina
    1   9   And I will visit in that day upon every one that entereth arrogantly over the threshold: them that fill the house of the Lord their God with iniquity and deceit.   et visitabo omnem qui arroganter ingreditur super limen in die illa qui conplent domum Domini Dei sui iniquitate et dolo
    1   10   And there shall be in that day, saith the Lord, the noise of a cry from the fish gate, and a howling from the Second, and a great destruction from the hills.       et erit in die illa dicit Dominus vox clamoris a porta Piscium et ululatus a secunda et contritio magna a collibus
    1   11   Howl, ye inhabitants of the Morter. All the people of Chanaan is hush, all are cut off that were wrapped up in silver.   ululate habitatores pilae conticuit omnis populus Chanaan disperierunt omnes involuti argento
    1   12   And it shall come to pass at that time, that I will search Jerusalem with lamps, and will visit upon the men that are settled on their lees: that say in their hearts: The Lord will not do good, nor will he do evil.      et erit in tempore illo scrutabor Hierusalem in lucernis et visitabo super viros defixos in fecibus suis qui dicunt in cordibus suis non faciet bene Dominus et non faciet male
    1   13   And their strength shall become a booty, and their houses as a desert: and they shall build houses, and shall not dwell in them: and they shall plant vineyards, and shall not drink the wine of them.      et erit fortitudo eorum in direptionem et domus eorum in desertum et aedificabunt domos et non habitabunt et plantabunt vineas et non bibent vinum earum
    1   14   The great day of the Lord is near, it is near and exceeding swift: the voice of the day of the Lord is bitter, the mighty man shall there meet with tribulation.      iuxta est dies Domini magnus iuxta et velox nimis vox diei Domini amara tribulabitur ibi fortis
    1   15   That day is a day of wrath, a day of tribulation and distress, a day of calamity and misery, a day of darkness and obscurity, a day of clouds and whirlwinds,      dies irae dies illa dies tribulationis et angustiae dies calamitatis et miseriae dies tenebrarum et caliginis dies nebulae et turbinis
    1   16   A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and against the high bulwarks.   dies tubae et clangoris super civitates munitas et super angulos excelsos
    1   17   And I will distress men, and they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the Lord:  and their blood shall be poured out as earth, and their bodies as dung.   et tribulabo homines et ambulabunt ut caeci quia Domino peccaverunt et effundetur sanguis eorum sicut humus et corpus eorum sicut stercora
    1   18   Neither shall their silver and their gold be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the Lord: all the land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy destruction of all them that dwell in the land.      sed et argentum eorum et aurum eorum non poterit liberare eos in die irae Domini in igne zeli eius devorabitur omnis terra quia consummationem cuм festinatione faciet cunctis habitantibus terram




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    « Reply #6 on: August 26, 2013, 12:58:41 PM »
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  • .woops - typos - the ink dried.


    "...the spirit of the world including the abominable
    desolation of Communion--standing-in-the-hand
    and Newsacraments; qui legit intelligat~"

    Should say "qui legit intellegat~"  



    And,
    "...instead he mistakenly accused my good seed
    who with eyes to see had not persisted in the error
    of a false accord with modernist Rome qui legit
    intelligat
    --"

    Should say "...intellegat --"



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    « Reply #7 on: August 30, 2013, 05:03:28 AM »
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  • Yeah !

    Who are the brainwashed? A little country of Germany, about the size of New England, TWO priests see the devastation the SSPX in causing and up and leave. The entire United States, three thousand miles wide, only TWO priests can see what's going on, and have the guts to stand up? Either the candidate selection process is gathering only "yes men" and mommies boys, or the training process is producing only "prudent" yes-people.
         We thank God for Father Sauer. And good for the sisters! They kept their faith, also. Not one American nun can see the problem? ( I refuse, just now, to believe that they do see the problem, but are cowards).


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    « Reply #8 on: August 31, 2013, 04:42:23 PM »
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    Yeah !
     And good for the sisters! They kept their faith, also. Not one American nun can see the problem? ( I refuse, just now, to believe that they do see the problem, but are cowards).


    Where is there an SSPX or SSPX-friendly order in the US?  And where would they go if they did see the problem?

    Marsha

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    « Reply #9 on: August 31, 2013, 11:52:48 PM »
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  • The Franciscan Sisters of Christ the King, Kansas City, Missouri,  the Dominicans in St. Marys, Kansas, Post Falls, Idaho, Massena, New York.  The only place they might go is to OL of Mt. Carmel, Boston, Kentucky.  But there is not housing for them there.  At present, the rooms available are occupied by priests!  Knowing Fr. Pfeiffer, if a sister showed up, she'd be provided for somehow while a house was erected.
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  

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    « Reply #10 on: September 02, 2013, 02:29:56 AM »
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  • Yes Marsha,

         If you are aware of any sisters or nuns who are waking up,
    put them in contact with Fathers Hewko, Pfeiffer, Ringrose
    or Bishop Williamson. I'd be very surprised if accommodations
    were not rather quickly arranged.
         Also, Bishops Kelly and Santay have some sixty sisters in their
    two major houses (New York and midwest)who would love more beautiful nuns; the CMRI would
    probably be willing to accept sisters, as would, I presume, Bishop Morello's
    Chapels. All good sisters have to do is stand up and make themselves known.


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    « Reply #11 on: September 02, 2013, 03:40:17 AM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat (Aug 26, 2013, 1:38 pm)
    The Parable of the Weeds Explained ~ Matt. caput XIII

    This parable is confusing, indeed:
    Quote from: Mt. 13 (Reims Testament)
    36 [...] Expound to us the parable of the cockle of the field. [....]
    38 [...] And the cockle, are the children of the wicked one. [....]

    A cockle--a marine bivalve mollusk
    • --growing in agricultural fields?  Whoa!  Shouldn't that be counted as a miracle?


    Quote from: Mt. 13 (Reims Testament)
    40 Even as cockle therefore is gathered up, and burnt with fire: [....]

    Sure seems like a waste to me.  They're edible!  In fact, to many people on both sides of the Pond, they're considered a delicacy.  So is this parable about obedience to the dietary rules according to the Old Law, i.e.: Leviticus 11?

    Don't you think the Latin might be just a wee bit helpful here, to make sure that's really what was going on?  Especially for anything presenting itself as an "explanation?  Aren't some parables confusing enough even when we understand all the words?

    Quote from: Mt. 13 (Vulgate)
    36 [...] Edissere nobis parabolam zizaniorum agri. [....]
    38 [...] Zizania autem, filii sunt nequam. [....]
    40 Sicut ergo colliguntur zizania, et igni comburuntur : [....]

    Aha!  The zizaniorum agri of the Vulgate isn't an amphibious edible shellfish, after all.  Reference to the Latin noun, from eastern Greek "zizanōn", identifies it as a flat-leaved grass of the genus Lolium
    • : the troublesome weed known in Middle and Modern English as "darnel".



      Way-elll, (expletive)!  My initial choice of Collegiate English dictionaries didn't have the completely unexpected meaning of "cockle" as a toxic weed.  Nor did my Latin-English dictionary have any entries for "zizan"-anything.  So I found it in a Greek-English dictionary, instead.  Then as I was looking for a usable image of the shellfish, I discovered that Wikipedia also had an entry for the weed, under its genus, via a disambiguation page.  Sigh.

      According to Wikipedia, this weed is difficult to distinguish from wheat while both are in their vegetative-growth period in the same field.  At least until both begin to develop their ears, not too long before the harvest.  Afterwards, I'd expect  a farmer to burn the weeds, not only to destroy the seeds that hadn't already dispersed, but also to convert their biomass into low-tech fertilizer. I suppose those are really significant aspects of the parable that people who've never set foot into those fields would easily miss.  Perhaps distinguishing wheat vs. darnel is a metaphor for the difficulty of distinguishing "the children of the kingdom" vs. "the children of the wicked one".

      Note *: Photo, used at least resolution available (180x240) on Wikipedia, by Féron Benjamin (via Flickr.com).

      Note #: Illustration, also at least resolution available (145x240), from Prof. Dr. Otto Wilhelm Thomé 1885: Flora von Deutschland, Österreich und der Schweiz.  Gera, Germany (now in public domain).

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    « Reply #12 on: September 02, 2013, 09:16:44 AM »
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    The Swiss-French Fr Firmin Udressy said in his very first sermon as new district superior of the Neo-SSPX in Germany, that Fr Frank Sauer would have left the SSPX voluntarily and that he would have publicly attacked the superiors (in particular Bp Fellay).
    This however is not true. The first official act of the new district superior is untrue. It's only true to Menzingen party principles.


    The brave Fr Sauer with his nearly 70 years, just travelled through Austria and so I'd the great pleasure to meet him. He's an old friend of Austria and of my house, and he also served in the Austrian SSPX district for years, before he became Africa missionary for the Vetero-SSPX. He's a friend of Bishop Williamson and follows Archbishop Lefebvre. He also met Fr Pfeiffer recently in Germany, and both priests appreciate each other.
    Fr Sauer holds a classic doctoral degree in Latin and Theology and is a bright traditional Catholic theologian (there aren't many anymore, like elsewhere). So it's a big loss for the Neo-SSPX actually.
    Whilst the brave father naturally opposes the Neo-SSPX' neo-liberalism and intended deal with Newrome, he never publicly criticised his superiors including Bp Fellay, in order not to scandalise the faithful, who're standing behind the Neo-SSPX leadership unfortunately. He however said countless times in public that Newrome and the Newpope must convert first and only then our problem would be solved. Since 2012 however, when he read the bad letter of Bp Fellay to the three bishops' letter (April 2012), he waited for a sign of God in order to see what to do.

    In July 2013 this sign "appeared". Because then the German Neo-SSPX district superior Fr Schmidberger, called-in the brave father and issued an ultimatum: either the brave father signs an assurance docuмent confirming in written form his loyalty to the general superior
    • . Or, otherwise, the brave father obtains his first written expel warning (admonition). Fr Schmidberger added that this call-in would be an official warning.


    The point is, that this demanding of a written loyalty docuмent towards Menzingen was and is unacceptable. Why should a Catholic priest sign such a silly docuмent? He would sign the anti-modernism oath any time, or any similar loyalty docuмent concerning the Catholic doctrine and Church.

    So, when Fr Sauer finally obtained his 1st admonition, he didn't wait for the 2nd and 3rd one but felt obliged to just silently leave the Neo-SSPX because he could no longer see any future in it.

    As of now he's joining Fr Zaby and both will be the spirituals of the Carmel in Brilon, where Fr Sauer served 12 years or so in the past. The two priests are rotating every few weeks, so that one priest stays at the Carmel and the other priest can undertake pastoral ministries in other parts of the country, also to help their third brother in arms, Fr Weinzierl.
    Apparently the good priests found a new place for the Carmel and a nearby priest house, next to the famous place of pilgrimage Altötting in Southern Germany. With a little bit more money, they could soon move the Carmel to its new home. Then not only the Carmel would be in South Germany, but also Fr Sauer and his befriended priests: a true centre of the resistance movement. And also very close to the border of the dukedom of Austria.


    • This was very similar to the loyalty docuмent demanded from the German Fr Hermann Weinzierl in late 2012, who then also had to leave the SSPX because he could not sign such a docuмent.




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    Whilst the brave father naturally opposes the Neo-SSPX' neo-liberalism and intended deal with Newrome, he never publicly criticised his superiors including Bp Fellay, in order not to scandalise the faithful,...

    But would it not be better to scandalize the faithful for the sake of the Faith?

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    « Reply #14 on: September 02, 2013, 03:50:37 PM »
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    The Swiss-French Fr Firmin Udressy said in his very first sermon as new district superior of the Neo-SSPX in Germany, that Fr Frank Sauer would have left the SSPX voluntarily and that he would have publicly attacked the superiors (in particular Bp Fellay).
    This however is not true. The first official act of the new district superior is untrue. It's only true to Menzingen party principles.


    The brave Fr Sauer with his nearly 70 years, just travelled through Austria and so I'd the great pleasure to meet him. He's an old friend of Austria and of my house, and he also served in the Austrian SSPX district for years, before he became Africa missionary for the Vetero-SSPX. He's a friend of Bishop Williamson and follows Archbishop Lefebvre. He also met Fr Pfeiffer recently in Germany, and both priests appreciate each other.
    Fr Sauer holds a classic doctoral degree in Latin and Theology and is a bright traditional Catholic theologian (there aren't many anymore, like elsewhere). So it's a big loss for the Neo-SSPX actually.
    Whilst the brave father naturally opposes the Neo-SSPX' neo-liberalism and intended deal with Newrome, he never publicly criticised his superiors including Bp Fellay, in order not to scandalise the faithful, who're standing behind the Neo-SSPX leadership unfortunately. He however said countless times in public that Newrome and the Newpope must convert first and only then our problem would be solved. Since 2012 however, when he read the bad letter of Bp Fellay to the three bishops' letter (April 2012), he waited for a sign of God in order to see what to do.

    In July 2013 this sign "appeared". Because then the German Neo-SSPX district superior Fr Schmidberger, called-in the brave father and issued an ultimatum: either the brave father signs an assurance docuмent confirming in written form his loyalty to the general superior
    • . Or, otherwise, the brave father obtains his first written expel warning (admonition). Fr Schmidberger added that this call-in would be an official warning.


    The point is, that this demanding of a written loyalty docuмent towards Menzingen was and is unacceptable. Why should a Catholic priest sign such a silly docuмent? He would sign the anti-modernism oath any time, or any similar loyalty docuмent concerning the Catholic doctrine and Church.

    So, when Fr Sauer finally obtained his 1st admonition, he didn't wait for the 2nd and 3rd one but felt obliged to just silently leave the Neo-SSPX because he could no longer see any future in it.

    As of now he's joining Fr Zaby and both will be the spirituals of the Carmel in Brilon, where Fr Sauer served 12 years or so in the past. The two priests are rotating every few weeks, so that one priest stays at the Carmel and the other priest can undertake pastoral ministries in other parts of the country, also to help their third brother in arms, Fr Weinzierl.
    Apparently the good priests found a new place for the Carmel and a nearby priest house, next to the famous place of pilgrimage Altötting in Southern Germany. With a little bit more money, they could soon move the Carmel to its new home. Then not only the Carmel would be in South Germany, but also Fr Sauer and his befriended priests: a true centre of the resistance movement. And also very close to the border of the dukedom of Austria.


    • This was very similar to the loyalty docuмent demanded from the German Fr Hermann Weinzierl in late 2012, who then also had to leave the SSPX because he could not sign such a docuмent.




    The English and the German Lion in 2007 :






    God Bless Fr. Sauer, Fr. Zaby, and Fr. Weinzierl..........will add them to our prayer list.

    Thanks for sharing!