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« on: November 16, 2013, 08:55:44 PM »
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  • Another good article from TheRecusant.com

    http://www.therecusant.com/fr-rostands-ecuмenism

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    Fr. Rostand Explains Why One Shouldn't Attend his Masses Any Longer

    (Translated from La Sapiniere.)

    Fr. Rostand, the District Superior of Canada who became District Superior of the USA on August 15th 2008, once declared:

        “How could the Society encourage the faithful to go to Masses where, at best, they keep quiet about these errors if not propagating them, as if that didn’t really matter, as if it were not the duty of every Catholic, priest or faithful, to defend the Faith when it is attacked? It must be understood that the sermon which is heard and the teaching which is received are as important as the rite observed.”

        [‘Comment la Fraternité pourrait-elle encourager les fidèles à se rendre à des messes, même traditionnelles où, au mieux, on se tait sur ces erreurs lorsqu’on ne les propage pas, comme si cela n’avait pas grande importance, comme si défendre la foi n’était pas un devoir pour tout catholique, prêtres et fidèles, lorsque celle-ci est attaquée ? Il faut bien comprendre que la prédication entendue et l’enseignement reçu à l’occasion de la messe sont aussi importants que le rite observé.]  (Courrier de Tychique 249, Sunday 20th July, 2008)

    That was in 2008. But since then, there’s been ‘Branding’ going on at the SSPX HQ! Already, in a 2012 video which can be found on the US District website, Fr. Rostand affirmed that: “It is not true to say that the unity of the Church is only based on the Faith.” This is ‘proximate to heresy’, since the Faith is the principle of the two other factors of unity: the Sacrifice is the expression of the Faith and authority is the guarantor of the Faith. Archbishop Lefebvre reminded us that:

        “The Faith is the basis of all visibility in the Church. Catholicity is the Faith united in space. Apostolicity is the Faith in time and Holiness the fruit of the Faith.”  (Fideliter 66, pp.27-31)

    On the 1st September, 2013, Francis organized a universal day of fasting and prayer laced with false modernistic ecuмenism. He invited “The entire Catholic church,” but also, “all Christians of other confessions,” “men and women of every religion, as well as those brothers and sisters who do not believe” to work “in whatever way they can” for “the good of all humanity.” That is what one calls modernism:

        “Certainly such attempts can nowise be approved by Catholics, founded as they are on that false opinion which considers all religions to be more or less good and praiseworthy ... those who hold this opinion...little by little turn aside to naturalism and atheism.”  (Pius XI, Mortalium Animos)

    And yet Fr. Rostand decided to support this initiative. On the official District website, he wrote:

        “We appreciate the invitation to pray and fast and we hope that not only Catholics but everyone may respond to the Pope's call by praying to Our Lord Jesus Christ and His Virgin Mother.”
        (http://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/sept-7-day-prayer-and-penance-2382)

    Fr. Rostand took the care to keep quiet regarding the modernist errors promoted in the speech of Pope Francis, “as if that didn’t really matter, as if it were not the duty of every Catholic, priest or faithful, to defend the Faith when it is attacked.”

    As a result, therefore: As of now, 2013, one cannot assist at the Masses of Fr. Rostand. At least as long as there is no public reparation for a public fault. But Bishop Fellay allows this sort of thing... Why hasn’t he demanded that Fr. Rostand take his scandalous article ‘Sept 7 A Day of Prayer and Penance’ off the website? If, as Bishop Fellay says, “we have before us a real modernist” with Francis, why cooperate in his modernist acts? Why participate in the modernism of a modernist? But let’s be careful of asking questions which are too simple. Let’s not forget that Bishop Fellay is The Subtle Bishop! Bishop Fellay also said of Francis that he was “in contradiction with himself”. Today, the same could be said of more than one superior of the SSPX. And as Fr. Chazal remarked, “This disease is all the more deep because it touches the principle of non-contradiction, and in general it is incurable, in Menzingen or anywhere else.”


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    « Reply #1 on: November 17, 2013, 04:37:13 AM »
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  • These ecuмenical tendencies of the Society, well, going back a decade with its dialogue with conservatives, is a feature of the new brand which reverses the old campaign against the new church. I doubt now you would find many SSPX priests who would openly refuse the Council. Even Bp. Tissier I am sure would select his words carefully and drop his former statements in the convenient name of obedience and prudence. If it comes down to the survival of the Society in a more hostile world, it has opted for worldly respectability rather than suffer the growing consequences of principle. It is breeding a new kind of priest tutored in reconciliation and placating those that still raise objections.


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    « Reply #2 on: November 17, 2013, 01:32:19 PM »
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  • Quote from: Wessex
    These ecuмenical tendencies of the Society, well, going back a decade with its dialogue with conservatives, is a feature of the new brand which reverses the old campaign against the new church. I doubt now you would find many SSPX priests who would openly refuse the Council. Even Bp. Tissier I am sure would select his words carefully and drop his former statements in the convenient name of obedience and prudence. If it comes down to the survival of the Society in a more hostile world, it has opted for worldly respectability rather than suffer the growing consequences of principle. It is breeding a new kind of priest tutored in reconciliation and placating those that still raise objections.


    Yes, this is all under the upside down new syndrome of "unity" based on the superior; in complete disregard to the Faith to be first and foremost.

    As the outlook has changed for the nsspx; so the mode of operation changes in everything they do to accommodate their new views.  Including, the subtle slide of the SSPX praying in ACT for the natural "peace" the Pope is asking for.

    In other words, on the sspx.org website, they may [intellectually] distinguish the difference of "peace"; however, by their association to the Pope's ecuмenical act for praying with the INTENTION with other religions, shows the nsspx has NO distinction in its ACT.

    So under this new syndrome of "unity" based on the superior, it carries over to the bond in wanting "unity" under the Pope, what he does, and with what the Pope's intentions and actions are so long as thy are "unified" under him (the superior); it is still, in all, a complete disregard to the Faith to be first and foremost.

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    « Reply #3 on: November 17, 2013, 03:23:45 PM »
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  • There can be no peace or unity outside of objective Truth.  To pray for such is a wicked prayer.  Pray rather, "Thy kingdom come, Thy Will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven."
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  

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    « Reply #4 on: November 17, 2013, 03:47:38 PM »
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  • I thought the SSPX youth at World Youth Day in Madrid was a very bad example. They went in a pro-life capacity but still.

    A few years ago, Jim Dowson of the UK Life League spoke at an SSPX event. Dowson, a protestant doesn't support joint prayer.

    In England there is a group called Integrity and Action. It's a recommended group and a model to adopt.


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    « Reply #5 on: November 17, 2013, 04:10:51 PM »
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    Even Bp. Tissier I am sure would select his words carefully and drop his former statements in the convenient name of obedience and prudence. If it comes down to the survival of the Society in a more hostile world, it has opted for worldly respectability rather than suffer the growing consequences of principle.


    It must be remembered that his Faith Imperiled by Reason: Benedict XVI's Hermeneutics was suppressed by Bishop Fellay.

    Bishop Tissier put principle aside when he admonished Fr Chazal. Few believed Bishop Tissier was ever a fighter but still, he is blinded by the false obedience that brought  about the demise of the SSPX. Bishop Tissier is no threat to Bishop Fellay. Neither is Bishop de Galarreta.

    Only Bishop Williamson has demonstrated any willingness to fight on.

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    « Reply #6 on: November 17, 2013, 06:22:36 PM »
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  • Here’s a good point made by Croy on the website, Un eveque s’est leve.



    “Note that while Father Rostand was calling to unite to the syncretist prayer of this ‘modernist Pope’ (according to the words of Bishop Fellay), the district of Italy, which France united itself to, was, on the contrary, denouncing the scandal of this prayer:”

    From La Porte Latine :

    (Note from La Porte Latine: we are publishing this news release from the Superior District of Italy who refuses the prevaling religious relativism and gives first place to Our Lord Jesus Christ who alone can give peace to men.)

    The growing threat of an attack against Syria by the United States, which may lead to the involvement of the great powers of the world, led the Pope to organize a prayer vigil next Saturday, to ask the Lord to grant us the great gift of peace.

    What does not fail to surprise us is that Pope Francis seems to exclude adoration of the Eucharist so as to pray together with representatives of other religions in order to not “disturb” the members of other religions.

    We firmly believe that peace cannot be the work of agreements between men outside of Jesus Christ, the King of kings and the Prince of Peace. It is impossible to leave out the Lord in this extreme moment in this prayer vigil that should be directed towards the one true God and which on the contrary will contribute to spread religious relativism.

    Jesus said in the Gospel: “Without me you can do nothing” (John 15:5) and again “All that you ask of the Father in my name, He will give it to you.”

    For this reason, the Society of Saint Pius X will not be present in St. Peter’s Square on Saturday, but will organize an hour of adoration in front of the Blessed Sacrament exposed in all its Italian priories from 9:00pm to 10:00pm.

    We invite everyone to pray for reparation and ask peace from Him who alone can grant it and “not as the world gives” (John 14:27): the Lord Jesus Christ close to us in the consecrated Host, will ensure that our hearts will not fear and will not be troubled.

    Don Pierpaolo Petrucci, District Superior of the Society of St. Pius X

    Source: District of Italy

    Addition and Correction from the District of Italy

    We have learned that tomorrow’s papal vigil will include Eucharistic adoration. Thus was refuted, by the facts, the news which had been released by the media and that we had taken up in regards to the will of the Pope to eliminate it for ecuмenical reasons. But the Eucharistic adoration vigil itself and the fasting, as the address of Pope Francis indicates at the beginning of the celebration booklet which was just published, are made equal with the prayers and fasting asked of the members of all religions in the forms of their choice:

    “To this end, brothers and sisters, I have decided to proclaim for the whole Church on 7 September next, the vigil of the birth of Mary, Queen of Peace, a day of fasting and prayer for peace in Syria, the Middle East, and throughout the world, and I also invite each person, including our fellow Christians, followers of other religions and all men of good will, to participate, in whatever way they can, in this initiative.”(The Angelus, September1st)

    The heart of the problem remains, namely the equivalence of Catholic prayer (and even Eucharistic adoration) with that of false religions. We invite all Catholics to repair this scandal, which intends to put on the same level all religions, and we add this intention to the one of peace in the adoration which will take place on Saturday in all our priories.