Author Topic: Fr Rostand visits San Antonio (Read 23314 times)

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #165 on:** August 14, 2012, 08:21:15 PM »

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Maybe that is what you should do when Bishop Rostand comes to visit any of your chapels chat with him honestly about your concerns. That way it is face to face instead of online. If you express your concerns, he might even see things differently.

I think the people in my chapel were justified. They love +Williamson and are real aware of how he has been treated. They see this as injustice.

These are people who were personally ministered to by +Williamson. They know him. These are amazing people. And they believe they are being betrayed.

Why would they want to stay and hear more propaganda?

No, they opted to ignore the Superior. I think that spoke volumes, personally.

I believe he left our chapel understanding that we, the lay people, are paying attention to what is happening in the Society. We are rightly worried about our chapels and the souls of the people who attend them.

Many of these chapels were built by the hard work and sacrifices of people who have been with the SSPX since the beginning. They have been in the trenches. These are people who sat for weeks or months WITHOUT even one Mass, without sponsors for their children's baptisms and confirmations, without recognition.

Then to have the Superior come and patronize them in the very chapel that +Williamson preached the True Faith to them.

He is lucky they even allowed him in the chapel in the first place.

We all have had our share of hardships when it come to our Catholic faith. However, we are supposed to offer up our sufferings to God.

Then why couldn't you or anyone else say that to Bishop Rostand. Instead, you all remained silent and ran out the door. You all took the easy way out. Shame on you. Especially those who personally knew Bishop Williamson. You only proved how easy it will be to close down your chapel in the future with no resistance..

It takes courage to stand up for what is right by God and the Catholic Church. I don't know Bishop Williamson personally. I only know him from his sermons and newsletters and his emails that he sent me. Had I been there at your chapel that day God would have given me the courage to face Bishop Rostand face to face in a polite charitable manner while defending God, the Catholic Church and Bishop Williamson. I am not afraid of speaking the Truth which is Christ.

!Viva Cristo Rey!

It is all about the God, OUr Blessed Mother and the true Catholic Faith.

Bishop Williamson isn't afraid of speaking the truth which is of Christ.

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Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #166 on:** August 14, 2012, 08:27:07 PM »

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Maybe that is what you should do when Bishop Rostand comes to visit any of your chapels chat with him honestly about your concerns. That way it is face to face instead of online. If you express your concerns, he might even see things differently.

I agree. In Asia, we have so-called Traditional Catholics who even skips Sunday Mass just because they don't agree with the priests concerning the current SSPX crisis. In my opinion, they are doing a disservice to the resistance. To me this is plain Protestantism. I'd like to hear more thoughts about this.

I agree with you totally. We can't be silent or indifferent. It goes beyond the SSPx and Rome discussions. This is about leading souls to Heaven to be with God....

We are at battle against the Devil.

Jesus, Jesus, Jesus

We need to take CATHOLIC ACTION...

Maria Elizabeth · « **Reply #167 on:** August 14, 2012, 09:07:36 PM »

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DO NOT PRESUME THAT WHAT SHOWS UP ON WEBSITES LIKE THIS COUNTS FOR
ANYTHING. When we're happy with the content of a forum, these guys can say
that isn't important because it isn't reality. It's just the Internet.

And, if someone asks you, "Where did you get that idea?" and you tell them you
read it on the Internet, what are you going to say when they scoff at you and say,
"Well, you can't believe everything you see on the Internet!

I have seen a lot of this lately. It's a form of attacking the messenger instead of
the message.

I just heard a sermon on Sunday where the priest was saying that people who use the internet are not connecting with reality. He said that "people seem to think that anything THEY say is important". "Not so", he said.

So, yes, Neil Obstat is correct. This argument is being used to dismiss and belittle the Resistance.

Personally, if I used an argument or idea I heard on the internet, I would NOT tell the person where I got that argument or idea.

Diego · « **Reply #168 on:** August 14, 2012, 09:52:27 PM »

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....Excuse me if I misunderstand this, but it seems you are somehow proud for not having bothered to speak with Fr. Rostand. If this is the case, then you should know that I entirely disagree. You missed your chance.

If you don't let him know what you are thinking, ...

I talked to him when he came to our parish. It was a waste of time.

Now I have nothing polite to say to any of those #$%^&.

Incredulous · « **Reply #169 on:** August 14, 2012, 10:44:52 PM »

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Quote from: Neil Obstat
....Excuse me if I misunderstand this, but it seems you are somehow proud for not having bothered to speak with Fr. Rostand. If this is the case, then you should know that I entirely disagree. You missed your chance.

If you don't let him know what you are thinking, ...

I talked to him when he came to our parish. It was a waste of time.

Now I have nothing polite to say to any of those #$%^&.

I understand Neil Obstat's point, but I don't agree with her.

Reasons:

1. Fr. Rostand has been trying to feed us horse manure for months.
He has lost a lot of credibility.

2. He has not demonstrated that he's willing to make use of his
intellect for any logicall discussion on the SSPX betrayal issues.
He just comes off as a Menzingen "spin-meister"

3. I actually liked the way the New York chapel gave him the cold shoulder.
It was an appropriate response, especially when he's mouthing-off at the
chapel about "sedes".

Ethelred · « **Reply #170 on:** August 15, 2012, 02:58:24 AM »

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Quote from: Diego
Quote from: Neil Obstat
....Excuse me if I misunderstand this, but it seems you are somehow proud for not having bothered to speak with Fr. Rostand. If this is the case, then you should know that I entirely disagree. You missed your chance.

If you don't let him know what you are thinking, ...

I talked to him when he came to our parish. It was a waste of time.

Now I have nothing polite to say to any of those #$%^&.

I understand Neil Obstat's point, but I don't agree with her.

Reasons:

1. Fr. Rostand has been trying to feed us horse manure for months.
He has lost a lot of credibility.

2. He has not demonstrated that he's willing to make use of his
intellect for any logicall discussion on the SSPX betrayal issues.
He just comes off as a Menzingen "spin-meister"

3. I actually liked the way the New York chapel gave him the cold shoulder.
It was an appropriate response, especially when he's mouthing-off at the
chapel about "sedes".

Good points, Diego & Incredulous. That's why I too don't agree with Neil's wishful thinking of "Let's talk with the conciliar Bp Fellay and his followers". And this is not just a gut feeling of mine, but like Diego based on evidence :

During the last months -- usually after the leaked letters from April 2012 -- several faithful European SSPX priests did what Neil suggests: i.e. they wrote letters to Menzingen (or their district superiors) or tried to call them, in order to warn against an agreement with modernstic (i.e. unconverted) Newrome.

But with what effect? ZERO in the handful of cases I personally know of, but we can extrapolate this. And these priests wrote excellent letters, much better than a any layman like Neil, Ethelred, etc could have done.

If these brave priests got answers at all, it was always the same nonsensical non-answers.

Absolutely ZERO effect!

Ferdinand · « **Reply #171 on:** August 15, 2012, 09:01:22 AM »

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I understand Neil Obstat's point, but I don't agree with her.

Reasons:

1. Fr. Rostand has been trying to feed us horse manure for months.
He has lost a lot of credibility.

2. He has not demonstrated that he's willing to make use of his
intellect for any logicall discussion on the SSPX betrayal issues.
He just comes off as a Menzingen "spin-meister"

3. I actually liked the way the New York chapel gave him the cold shoulder.
It was an appropriate response, especially when he's mouthing-off at the
chapel about "sedes".

Advice from Mark Twain...

Don't wrestle with pigs... you both get dirty and the pig likes it.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #172 on:** August 16, 2012, 12:02:06 PM »

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Quote from: Neil Obstat
....Excuse me if I misunderstand this, but it seems you are somehow proud for not having bothered to speak with Fr. Rostand. If this is the case, then you should know that I entirely disagree. You missed your chance.

If you don't let him know what you are thinking, ...

I talked to him when he came to our parish. It was a waste of time.

Now I have nothing polite to say to any of those #$%^&.

At least you said something. At least you stood up for God and the Catholic faith. I understand your frustration about havig nothing polite to say to them but we have to remember not to sink to their evilness...

We are Catholics. We need to stick together, pray to God, pray our Rosaries and take Catholic Action.

To be silent is to be indifferent. Silence and indifference alllowed vatican II and sexula abuse and other apostacies which are very public and not very "silent apostacies".

I understand your frustration but as a chapel you all need to stick together and confront Bishop Rostand or you will find a pad lock on your front door and the property will become the property of novus ordo bishop and diocese.

Most of the information i have is from experience.

The novus ordo used the town hall meetings which were officially called "speak up sessions" were evaluate real estate to close down many churches and schools (many which were historical and built before vatican II). These speak up sessions were used to see if there would be any resistance from the people too.

You shouldn't make it easy to destroy Catholicism. You all need to get organized and stick together.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #173 on:** August 16, 2012, 12:09:39 PM »

We are Catholic and the 4 marks of the Catholic Church is ONE HOLY CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH!

62 reasons why the novus ordo mass is not Catholic.....

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #174 on:** August 16, 2012, 12:12:22 PM »

Bishop Williamson is never silent! He is always defending our Catholic Faith and is often persecuted for it.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #175 on:** August 16, 2012, 12:20:37 PM »

You can't be silent. Write letters to these Bishop Rostand and Bishop Fellay. Have your children in their own words and pictures send letters to these bishops. Many of these children are our future nuns and priests.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #176 on:** August 16, 2012, 06:39:44 PM »

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You can't be silent. Write letters to these ~~Bishop~~ Rostand and Bishop Fellay. Have your children in their own words and pictures send letters to these bishops. Many of these children are our future nuns and priests.

Rostand isn't a bishop.

When the district superior comes to town and no one shows up, that means you
have resigned. You give him the power to say what he wants to say about it and
then you have no excuse, because he showed up and you didn't.

I'm not saying you're going to change his mind, or "make a difference." Maybe
you won't make any tangible difference. But you'll give him something to think
about, which might do some good down the line. You can know you stood up
for the Faith -- isn't that important to you?

The thing about not showing up is, then you can be SURE you won't make a difference.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #177 on:** August 16, 2012, 07:20:00 PM »

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But with what effect? ZERO in the handful of cases I personally know of, but we can extrapolate this. And these priests wrote excellent letters, much better than a any layman like Neil, Ethelred, etc could have done.

If these brave priests got answers at all, it was always the same nonsensical non-answers.

Absolutely ZERO effect!

That's what you get when you're dealing with the hard-hearted.

They only understand actions, not words.

Francisco · « **Reply #178 on:** August 16, 2012, 10:46:50 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

.......

The thing about not showing up is, then you can be SURE you won't make a difference.

It's one's money that will make a difference. This US tour of Fr Rostand may also have something to do with the collection plates. The US seems to be the financial breadbasket of the SSPX, without which the latter may well go under.

Matthew · « **Reply #179 on:** April 09, 2024, 04:40:53 PM »

BUMP in light of recent events -- the revelation that Fr. Rostand was tried in France for pedophilia.