Both sides are thoroughly schooled in how to use people.

We are all like children by comparison.

Quote from: Sede Catholic

Both sides are thoroughly schooled in how to use people.

We are all like children by comparison.

... it is very likely they are highly unscrupulous, and have the resources of the Prince of this World at their disposal.

Quote from: Incredulous

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Some readers might think I should be offended that someone found a problem in
one of my ideas. On the contrary, I am delighted! This is the whole point here.
Let's talk about these things, and make our mistakes NOW, when it doesn't matter.

Let's hash it out! Let's come up with some wild new, out-of-the-box zingers!

You just know that these men are huddled in dark rooms wishing and hoping
that they can pull a fast one. They want secrecy and they thrive on it. That's
because they have some deep, dark secrets that they don't want to be known
and they don't want them to be brought up in a Q&A setting. Sede Catholic is
right on the money. Let's get ready for the task of reading between the lines.
If they come a-visiting and find that even 5% of the crowd is armed to the
teeth, it can't help but have an effect on what they have to say. Be ever-vigilant
to discover the real reason he's showing up at this time: what's he trying to
accomplish here?

Be ready for the smokescreen, for the "ack-ack." Watch out for conspicuous
drifting off topic by way of telling cute stories. I doubt that Fr. Rostand can be
as clever or as slick as +Fellay, but you know he's going to try. Be ready for it.

As I explained before, think proactively. Have several well-built men posted at
the exit doors so the speaker can't make a hasty escape. Someone should
guard the back door past the bathroom so he can't say, "I'll be right back," and
try to run off instead of using the loo. Be wise as serpents and gentle as doves.

Something in your post reminded me of Luther tacking his articles on the Church
door.  

Well, getting the "truth" from the SSPX's controlled media has deteriorated to such an extent, that maybe the Chapel coordinators should tack our questions on the front door when Fr. Rostand or Msgr. Fellay visit?

This reflects the absurdity of SSPX Europeans trying to manage the "spin" in a world of internet communications.  They will never be able to do it.

Bp. Fellay and Fr. Rostand are fighting a losing battle if they think we're going to swallow their Menzingen propaganda.

PS  The "loo" what state are you from?  Is that a Canadian expression?

Sorry, I didn't notice your post after all these unrelated, off-topic entries in the
past 5 pages (50 posts).

My intention was to evoke a sense of preparedness. By having sample questions
under review, one can be better prepared to ask one or two of his own in a live
situation. You have to make your question fit the topic, otherwise you look like a
space case with an agenda, e.g., take a look at the past 50 posts on this thread.

The word, loo, is a fairly well-known term. It isn't used much in my area, but
people with literary experience know what it is. I am aware that it is a colloquial
term used in England. But we do speak English, you know.

Most importantly, I believe it's an honorable (or honourable) endeavor to raise
the awareness of SSPX faithful so that they might become familiar with how
the SSPX leadership has been conducting a Modernism plan. Far too many don't
really know what Modernism is in the first place, so it's a bit challenging to bring
to their attention what's happening.

There isn't any excuse for that. The SSPX was named after the only Pope-Saint in
the past 4 centuries. Oh, but notice, the recent push to "con-anize" JPII and J23,
and even P6. Regardless, the only legitimate pope saint in the past 400 years,
whose motto was to Restore All Things in Christ, made one prominent
contribution to the history of the Church, which was to openly and decisively
combat Modernism. With the assistance of his saintly Secretary of State, Cardinal
Merry del Val, who probably was the actual author thereof, he published his
landmark encyclical, Pascendi dominici gregis, which took Modernism and
sliced it, diced it, and hung it out to dry. He followed that up with Sacrorum
Antistitum, the Oath Against Modernism, which was required of every cleric
of every order and every congregation, and of every candidate for Holy Orders.

We Catholics today are obliged to know the facts of this history, and what took
place regarding this heresy, the "synthesis of all heresies." What could be more
important for understanding what it means to be Catholic today?

Fr. Rostand could be showing up next week or next month at your local parish.
It takes a year or two to learn what you need to learn about Modernism and its
history so that you can effectively apply it to a live situation in the presence of
a Modernist, so as to adequately put him to task on his errors, or worse, his
heresy. But you probably should not accuse him of "heresy" in front of everyone,
unless he says something most obvious, like Jesus did not rise from the dead,
or the Blessed Virgin Mary was not immaculately conceived, or there is no such
thing as original sin. I'm not saying it's impossible for him to do that, but only
dare to call him out on "heresy" if he does so. Otherwise, he might find a way
to cut short the whole affair, and then you'll find out how much trouble he can
make with your "problematic parish."

You don't have a year or two to prepare for a meeting with Fr. Rostand.

Therefore, I'm suggesting that we ought to kick around some ideas to come up
with a sample list of questions that you can have in mind, so that when you go to
one of these Q&A sessions, you can get some real discussion going on instead
of a milquetoast session of no substance, and a waste of everyone's time. Also,
this might be an opportunity to learn how important it is to find out about Pascendi
and to learn a few things about standing up for the Faith of our Fathers in a
climate of ambient Modernism everywhere you look, even in the superiors of
the SSPX.

It seems to me that fighting against Modernism is one of the most important
things a Catholic today can do. But before you can fight against it, you have to
know what it is. And you can't really know what it is unless you study Pascendi.
It is not enough to just read it. You have to study it. An excellent little book takes
you through the steps systematically; it's called A Catechism of Modernism, by
Fr. Lemius. It has been available through TAN Books for several decades. But
since TAN is now run by Protestants, they're letting the Catholic titles run out and
then they're not reprinting them. So you could find it's not so easy to get copies of
A Catechism of Modernism anymore. This would be an excellent textbook for a
local pastor to run a class on Modernism. That would be a very good thing to do.
But only a very holy and inspired priest would dare to embark on such a theme. I
have never heard of one, myself.

Have you?

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