Author Topic: Fr. Rostand in Post Falls (Read 13329 times)

Machabees · « **on:** November 24, 2013, 10:56:15 PM »

I have just learned that Fr. Rostand is giving a public conference in Post Falls Idaho on Friday Dec. 6, 2013 @ 6:30 pm about “the current situation of the Church”.

I do not know if he is speaking of the Catholic Church or the “Church of Fellay” (sspx)? However, for those who attend Post Falls, please let us know with an update, any good news, or direction of this first new conference since the “rebranding” happened.

Will it be a conversion, more of the same, or a continued progression of “political crumbs” from Bishop Fellay that Pope Francis is a “modernist”…we will see.

I only hope that he will remember his oath as a Priest of Jesus Christ, stop the antics, and feed His sheep the true purity of Doctrine…without maintaining the false obedience to the superior.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #1 on:** November 24, 2013, 11:29:09 PM »

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Well this is great news.

The Faithful of Idaho have something wonderful to look forward to,
just before the arrival of the Second Sunday of Advent. Kind of a
sort of triple anticipation, if you will.

What will the District Superior bring besides his compromised
pronunciation of English?

Will he have any hit-men in the crowd to attempt to overwhelm old
ladies like his boss did in Ireland? (Ask John Grace about that.)

You know, Irish ladies are a tough breed. But I must say, I've
known not a few who've made it to the West Coast of America
whose mettle is a bit more than one might expect capable for the
gentler sex. We have some Irish women who are tough as nails
out here.

I wonder how many are in Post Falls?

And it's when a good man has such a woman to come home to
that he may think twice about whether he's going to be a brave
soldier in the front lines.

This little event might be worth making the trip for, even if it's a few
hundred miles, or a thousand or three.

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hollingsworth · « **Reply #2 on:** November 25, 2013, 01:04:46 PM »

We're going to try to gain entry. It may be a problem, however, since I'm known to the ICC faithful and to Fr. Rostand. I may not get beyond the door. I think maybe that "public meeting" will have a definite Menzingen spin put on it. In any case, if the Dec. 6 meeting is anything like the previous Rostand fiasco there, no more than 15% of the congregation will attend anyway.

JPaul · « **Reply #3 on:** November 27, 2013, 06:50:57 PM »

Quote from: hollingsworth

We're going to try to gain entry. It may be a problem, however, since I'm known to the ICC faithful and to Fr. Rostand. I may not get beyond the door. I think maybe that "public meeting" will have a definite Menzingen spin put on it. In any case, if the Dec. 6 meeting is anything like the previous Rostand fiasco there, no more than 15% of the congregation will attend anyway.

Well, you can be the canary in the mine to see if the air is still poisoned....... :furtive:

TheRecusant · « **Reply #4 on:** November 28, 2013, 02:10:36 AM »

It will be to imitate his master, and show off his new found Traditionalist credentials. Bishop Fellay broke the 6-month silence on Francis, so now we can expect all his understudies to do the same. Only perhaps not quite as articulately nor as convincingly. Fr. Rostand is a "poor man's Fellay". He does his best, but it's never quite the real thing...

Wessex · « **Reply #5 on:** November 28, 2013, 04:56:58 AM »

I suppose the tone has to be set for the Bergoglio era. No more regressive tendencies in Rome to encourage Menzingen's liberal ones. The convergence has hit a roadblock. So, what to do? That will depend on any general conservative backlash within the conciliar arena. But I am not holding my breath; 'internal resistance' of the quiet kind seems to be quite congentital. Keeping the flock docile and generous will be Fr. R's main mission. His script will predictably emphasise how well they are being served, the costs of the operation (on doomed projects or otherwise), having trust in the leader and avoiding schism (meaning those nasty independents, excluding himself, of course). Bergoglio bashing, I am not so sure. Father is a bureaucrat, so do not expect much there.

Machabees · « **Reply #6 on:** November 28, 2013, 08:50:35 AM »

Yes, I believe Fr. Rostand's tone will be on those type of lines as well.

With that said, I thought perhaps we can take the opportunity to draw up some honest questions to ask him. Even if he keeps up on Cathinfo, I am sure that he does, and reads these honest questions being posed from people within his District, it may also guide his conscience in the right direction to see that there are still viable questions out there, before God, that he needs to [honestly] answer; regardless if he does, tries to avoid them, or if he wants to; they still exist to be answered.

Using a number system, I will begin:

1 - Is the SSPX still perusing an arraignment for a practical deal with Rome?

2 - Is there anything in the works at present, in spite of the new Pope's "modernism" that Bishop Fellay mentioned?

3 - If so, is the outline of the 2012 General Chapter still in effect to facilitate a deal with Rome?

4 - If not, then does the General Chapter reconvene to make another outline for the SSPX?

5 - The District Superior from Canada, Father Jürgen Wegner, had mentioned that the SSPX had begun a new image through a branding company from Holland, is that true? If so, has that been completed yet? And, what is the new image that Bishop Fellay is looking for?

hollingsworth · « **Reply #7 on:** November 28, 2013, 01:09:41 PM »

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I suppose the tone has to be set for the Bergoglio era.

Yes, how does Menzingen move closer to Rome in the "Bergoglio era." This pope, who wears his modernism on his sleeve, makes the going tougher for Fellay.

Machabees · « **Reply #8 on:** December 04, 2013, 11:11:38 AM »

Just a reminder for those in the Post Falls area.

Fr. Rostand is giving His conference in two days. Please prepare your sincere questions for an overall good to happen.

As the Good God always hopes, we must also hope for a responsibility and a conversion to happen; with family, friends, and religious in this crisis and fierce battle with the arch-enemy of Christ and our souls -the devil; who goes about seeking to apostate and devour souls.

Please pray, as every opportunity is a good opportunity.

Viva Christo Rey...

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #9 on:** December 06, 2013, 02:31:34 AM »

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Your questions must be voiced with a smile in the tone, and without any semblance of confrontation. But don't let that approach take you off guard. Listen to what he says, and quote his words back to him so that he knows he has been heard. Let his own words be the things that gets him upset, if anything. Let him show himself to be the cause of his own discomfort. It shouldn't be too difficult to do, since he says quite a lot to embarrass himself.

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JPaul · « **Reply #10 on:** December 06, 2013, 07:58:21 AM »

It will be a waste of time, good money after bad.
The good Father is not going to be there to have discussions. He will be there to repeat Menzingen's version and justifications for events and to defend the King and the King's authority.
It matters not if he is verbally bested or made to look the fool by his own accord, in the end, nothing will change.

bowler · « **Reply #11 on:** December 06, 2013, 09:16:21 AM »

Quote from: J.Paul

It will be a waste of time, good money after bad.
The good Father is not going to be there to have discussions. He will be there to repeat Menzingen's version and justifications for events and to defend the King and the King's authority.
It matters not if he is verbally bested or made to look the fool by his own accord, in the end, nothing will change.

I agree that it is a waste of time, however, if it was made easy for me to attend, I would go just to hear first hand all of the beating around the bush. And who knows, maybe a good fight may errupt, or someone could start laughing at what he says.

If it was done on Sunday after mass, and they provided food, I would go. Or maybe not if there was good weather and my son wanted to go fishing.

From another thread I wrote this, and I correct it to apply to hearing Fellay, Rostand, Phlueger La Rue etc.

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I'd rather stick pins into my eyes than have to go through the TORTURE of ~~reading Kant or any other philosopher~~ listening to any neo-SSPX apologist priest trying to figure out things as he writes/lives (JPII, BV16, Francis). .... Maybe it is because I'm a man of action, preferring to spend my time outdoors doing physical activities, but now, knowing what I know, I think God had provided me with the gift of abhorring nonsense.

When I came back to the Church, I read more books during my first year than I had read all my previous life. I read them because they were the truth, and I knew it as I read it. Conservative Novus Ordo books like what comes out of The Rock and The Wanderer, I read like a few pages and then dropped, because they were not the same, they were not of the full truth, they were beating around the bush, not a good sign (like Bp. Fellay and any neo-SSPX apologist priest writes now). I didn't finish one of those "conservative" Catholic books.

Bottom line, maybe either you have it or you don't, the protection I had. At the very least I simply do not have the curiosity to go through the TORTURE of reading theory and nonsense. PERIOD!

John Anthony · « **Reply #12 on:** December 06, 2013, 01:18:13 PM »

Quote from: Machabees

Yes, I believe Fr. Rostand's tone will be on those type of lines as well.

With that said, I thought perhaps we can take the opportunity to draw up some honest questions to ask him. Even if he keeps up on Cathinfo, I am sure that he does, and reads these honest questions being posed from people within his District, it may also guide his conscience in the right direction to see that there are still viable questions out there, before God, that he needs to [honestly] answer; regardless if he does, tries to avoid them, or if he wants to; they still exist to be answered.

Using a number system, I will begin:

1 - Is the SSPX still perusing an arraignment for a practical deal with Rome?

2 - Is there anything in the works at present, in spite of the new Pope's "modernism" that Bishop Fellay mentioned?

3 - If so, is the outline of the 2012 General Chapter still in effect to facilitate a deal with Rome?

4 - If not, then does the General Chapter reconvene to make another outline for the SSPX?

5 - The District Superior from Canada, Father Jürgen Wegner, had mentioned that the SSPX had begun a new image through a branding company from Holland, is that true? If so, has that been completed yet? And, what is the new image that Bishop Fellay is looking for?

Dear Machabees,

Fr. Rostand probably does more work in his average day than you or I in his average week, so let me help save Father's valuable time by giving you the honest answers to your honest questions, following your number system:

1 - No
2 - Assuming that there is some difference between 2 and 1, No
3 - Yes
4 - N/A
5 - You can see the rebranding in the publications of the SSPX in the U.S. and Canada. They all have consistent logos, layouts, typefaces, etc. There are no plans to roll out the rebranding worldwide. It involves no "image" issue in the political or marketing sense.

Anything else I can help you with?

hollingsworth · « **Reply #13 on:** December 06, 2013, 01:23:38 PM »

I'm going. Assuming they let me in the door, I'll try to get a summary of the event for everyone. I have a feeling, however, that it will be just more neo-sspx bs from the hardworking Fr. R. :rolleyes:

John Grace · « **Reply #14 on:** December 06, 2013, 01:37:58 PM »

Quote from: hollingsworth

I'm going. Assuming they let me in the door, I'll try to get a summary of the event for everyone. I have a feeling, however, that it will be just more neo-sspx bs from the hardworking Fr. R. :rolleyes:

There are better ways to spend an evening.