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Fr. Rostand comes out Swinging
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2012, 10:52:39 PM »
They are afraid of tiny little internet forums and wish to make them the boogy men because the Emperor has no clothes.  Their only way to pretend they are not flagrantly departing from the way the SSPX used to be is to try to silence and intimidate anyone who dares to speak out against them!

And these forums are beyond their power, whereas honest faithful Catholics and priests will be shown the door for their convictions by these people shaking hands with the modernists.

Fr. Rostand comes out Swinging
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2012, 10:57:31 PM »
This is a passage, a part of which was included in the letter of the three bishops to Bishop Fellay:

Quote from: Archbishop Lefebvre


The more one analyzes the docuмents of Vatican II, and the more one analyzes their interpretation by the authorities of the Church, the more one realizes that what is at stake is not merely superficial errors, a few mistakes, ecuмenism, religious liberty, collegiality, a certain Liberalism, but rather a wholesale perversion of the mind, a whole new philosophy based on modern philosophy, on subjectivism. A book just published by a German theologian is most instructive. It shows how the Pope's thinking, especially in a retreat he preached at the Vatican, is subjectivist from start to finish, and when afterwards one reads his speeches, one realizes that indeed that is his thinking. It might appear Catholic, but Catholic it is not. No. The Pope's notion of God, the Pope's notion of Our Lord, come up from the depths of his consciousness, and not from any objective revelation to which he adheres with his mind. No. He constructs the notion of God. He said recently in a docuмent  - incredible  - that the idea of the Trinity could only have arisen quite late, because man's interior psychology had to be capable of defining the Trinity. Hence the idea of the Trinity did not come from a revelation from outside, it came from man's consciousness inside, it welled up from inside man, it came from the depths of man's consciousness! Incredible! A wholly different version of Revelation, of Faith, of philosophy! Very grave! A total perversion! How we are going to get out of all this, I have no idea, but in any case it is a fact, and as this German theologian shows (who has, I believe, another two parts of his book to write on the Holy Father's thought), it is truly frightening.

So, they are no small errors. We are not dealing in trifles. We are into a line of philosophical thinking that goes back to Kant, Descartes, the whole line of modern philosophers who paved the way for the Revolution.


Now why does Bishop Fellay not say these things anymore?

When is the last time he has said anything like this?



Fr. Rostand comes out Swinging
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2012, 11:29:22 PM »
I saw this diatribe and I'm not sure if its even worth a rebuttal?

If Fr. Rostand is functioning as Menzingen's "US mouthpiece", he should be fired.  Even John McFarland could do a better job.

I never thought I would see a traditional Catholic priest stoop to this low level of discourse.  Father, please pack-up and go back home.  You need a rest.

Fr. Rostand comes out Swinging
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2012, 12:34:00 AM »
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I saw this diatribe and I'm not sure if its even worth a rebuttal?

If Fr. Rostand is functioning as Menzingen's "US mouthpiece", he should be fired.  Even John McFarland could do a better job.

I never thought I would see a traditional Catholic priest stoop to this low level of discourse.  Father, please pack-up and go back home.  You need a rest.

At least we can be confident that Fr. Rostand is not some marrano infiltrator. No Jew could possibly be so clumsy.

Fr. Rostand comes out Swinging
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2012, 02:07:17 AM »
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I saw this diatribe and I'm not sure if its even worth a rebuttal?

If Fr. Rostand is functioning as Menzingen's "US mouthpiece", he should be fired.  Even John McFarland could do a better job.

I never thought I would see a traditional Catholic priest stoop to this low level of discourse.  Father, please pack-up and go back home.  You need a rest.



McFreeland???  NNNNOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!  


Okay, calm down -- maybe it's not worth a rebuttal, but I'm sorry I can't help
myself...........................

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I saw this on IA earlier, it looks like Fr. Rostand has decided to spew some more garbage:

http://www.sspx.org/District_Superiors_Ltrs/2012_ds_ltrs/september_2012_ds_ltr.htm

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Dear Friends and Benefactors,

Returning from the General Chapter of the Society of St. Pius X, I would like to thank you for your generous prayers for the intentions of this important meeting.

The Chapter, gathering all superiors and elder priests of the Society, went very well. As you may have already read in the official declaration of the Chapter, a profound unity was recovered - unity in our essential mission, unity in our actions, as well as unity of government under our Superior General, His Excellency Bishop Bernard Fellay.


Actually, I read the official declaration on CathInfo, one of your nemesis-websites!

Is this mythical "profound unity" in any way due to the draconian and ILLEGAL
exclusion of the one person +Fellay fears more than God? (apparently!) I shouldn't
have to remind him the day will come when he finds out first hand what Fear of
the Lord
is all about, but by then it will be too late.

For now, he's stuck with Fear of His Lordship!..................  :wink:

Oh, and what of the "profound unity" with the other two bishops who somehow
managed to avoid illegally prohibited attendance? They were not too pleased with
the resolutions and the votes, but their voices were stuffed in a box like they used
to do on a bridge in London.

"London Bridge is falling down, falling down, falling down ........"

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This is a great grace for which we must be very grateful. Once again, thank you for your prayers.


You're welcome.

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It is now time for us to reflect on the events of the past few months, and why this unity was shaken in some.


Keyword: "some" -- how will it be defined? Teilhardian style? Hmmm.....

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The first reason is obviously the delicate situation we are in. Our relationship with Rome has always been a sensitive and complicated situation. However, it is not the first time we have had to deal with such complex affairs. So how did it become, for at least a few, so uncomfortable that some lost confidence in the Society and, in particular, our Superior General?


Equivalent keyword: some = a few -- ditto......

N.B. Speaking of "not the first time," this is not the first time we've had to deal
with obfuscating letters from Society District Superiors. Only previous ones were
of a higher quality than this present one. (This one reaches a new nadir of lowness.)

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Looking back on those events, it is clear that there was an organized agenda on the part of some, intending to destabilize the Society of St. Pius X.


Now, I'm sorry, I'm confused. The Menzingen-denizens organized an agenda
intending to destabilize the SSPX, and so are those the guys you're talking about???

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For years, some small groups - with increasing aggression in recent months - have attacked and tried to undermine the Society.


There you go again: dragging the Menzi-denzies into this fray. What's up, dude???

WHOSE SIDE ARE YOU ON, ANYWAY????

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The Superior General and those who supported him were criticized from every angle.


Translation: You pew-sitters are supposed to Pray, Pay and Obey. Get it?

We don't want to hear a PEEP from you, and don't you DARE do any THINKING.

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Everything was analyzed, not to find the truth, but in order to sow division.


All stop. We need to define "truth." Truth is what I say it is. Okay? As you were......

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It is obvious that some have used every means they could to plant discord within the Society.


Now that "some" and "a few" have been Teilhard-contexted, a new, more
general term can be substituted: "they" - and the full throttle of accusations
unleashed..................

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The first avenue used was to discredit the superiors; to lead step by step to a loss of confidence. They used continual attacks, calumnies, and distorted truths, repeating them again and again, following the well-known revolutionary adage: “Lie, lie, something will always remain.” This means that by repeating false accusations, something will eventually be believed as true; little by little, these attacks sunk into the minds of some.


There. After 6 uses of "some" the word is now abandoned, and "they" takes the
baton to anchor the relay -- doing 8, no, 9, no .... 10 laps to the finish line!!

What have "they" done?
- used continual attacks
- used continual calumnies
- used (continually) distorted truths,

What have "they" done with these things?
- repeating them again and again

What is their intention?
- following the well-known revolutionary adage: "Lie, lie, something will always remain."

How do we presume to interpret their intention?
- that by repeating false accusations something will eventually be believed as true.

What has happened now that we know how to interpret their intention?
- little by little these attacks sunk into the minds of "some."

Wait. "They" and "some" were the same people. Shouldn't it say "some others??"

Or, are we just hurling wild epithets and ad hominems around like shrapnel so it
doesn't really matter who is who anymore, and chaos reigns?

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This trend is nothing new.


It's especially familiar to the Menzingen-denizens because they practice it a lot.
Take this present letter, for example! HAHAHAHAHA

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For years, primarily sedevacantist websites have disseminated their poisonous venom with the goal of dividing and even, if possible, destroying the Society of St. Pius X.


It must be getting to be desperation time to resort to the sede canard so hastily.

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For years they have accused, in a most fallacious way, that Bishop Fellay governs the Society with a small group of priests, with the majority of priests opposed.


Fellacious way? Fellay? Fellacious way? Fellay? Fellacious way? Fellay?
Is this guy a poet, and doesn't know it? His feet show it. They're longfellows.  :clown:

So the Menzingen-denizens are not a small group of priests that kow-tow to +Fellay?
Okay, then what are they? His advisors who tell him what to do? Come on now,
fess up!

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They allege that Bishop Fellay wants to “sell out” the Society; that his goal is not the restoration of the Church or of Tradition - but to betray the work of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. They spread the rumor that the Society has already betrayed its founder. For years they have prophesied that Bishop Fellay is going to compromise.


Aaaaaaand, did +Fellay try to compromise? Huuuuummmm? Be honest now.....

So if it isn't a "sell-out" for the Society to surrender itself for a mess of pottage,
what term would you like to use? An Equitable Sell-Out? A Mutually Beneficial Sell-
Out? Oh, I know, It would be a "Buy-In!" That's the ticket!

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All these rumors and false accusations have been spread on the Internet with many insults.


BTW if you want false accusations, rumors and Internet insults, you came to the
right place. Step Right Up! Ladieeeeees and Gennnntlemennn! Git'yer false
accusations, rumors and Internet insults Riiiiiight Heeeeerrrre!!!

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Over the past months, during which these attacks have intensified, it is noteworthy that most of the “indiscretions,” “leaks” and rumors about the Society were released on sedevacantist sites and newly-opened sites animated by the same spirit.


If you thought he was bluffing, the jig's up. He's bluffing. The one site he's
terrified of, that keeps him up at night worrying that his latest screed will fall
flat on ears that have already heard, it's CathInfo....   TA-DA!!!

(Interpreted: NOT a sede site, NOT a 'newly opened' site, and DEFINITELY not
'animated by the same spirit' -- which, by the way, has nothing to do with the
unclean spirit of Vatican II, which seems to animate Fr. Rostand)........................  :cool:

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The fury and relentlessness of these attacks - and for the most part, anonymously - is clearly obvious. They have demonstrated by their work of destruction how they are, in reality, enemies of Tradition and of the restoration of all things in Christ the King. They try to appear in sheep’s clothing, but in reality they are wolves trying to scatter and divide the flock.


Let me get this straight. +Fellay tries to betray the Society with a "deal" that
nobody else wants (but for his groupies), a "deal" that is contrary to the work
and mission of our venerable Founding Father, +ABL, who openly called for no
such deal to ever be entertained so long as Rome persists in its Modernist
corruption and heresy, and thus +Fellay becomes, for those with eyes to see and
ears to hear (let them know what the Spirit says to the Churches) a WOLF in
SHEEP'S CLOTHING, but now, Fr. Rostand is here to tell us that we who perceive
this truth are in fact the "wolves in sheep's clothing" that Holy Scripture foretells?



Excuse me, but this smacks a bit of the unforgivable sin, no???




(We've got to pause here for a word from our sponsor..............)



Oh, I know: What he's trying to say is, that we are SHEEP in WOLVES' CLOTHING,
in SHEEPS' CLOTHING. And it's really HOT in here with two costumes on!!


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They in fact show more hatred toward the Society than the anti-Catholic media!


Would Fr. Rostand even recognize Our Lord if He were to walk into the room? Pick
up your Scriptures, Father, and open to Matthew 23 and read what Our Lord had
to say to the Scribes and Pharisees. He would have the same thing to say to you,
and to Bishop Fellay, it seems to me.

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I caution the faithful not to be deceived - especially on the Internet.


Especially when you're reading this letter from Fr. Rostand on the Internet!

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Please be aware of “cyber-gossip” which is even more damaging than if it is done in person because it can be done anonymously and because of how many eyes it can reach in a short period of time.


And this is a great fear of Fr. Rostand, whose words are here for all to see, just
as the words of a mere anonymous peon like me are here to see.

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As a matter of fact, “cyber-gossiping” should be taken as a moral fault and as seriously as any kind of rumor, not only in spreading them but in going after them as well.


Gosh. If only he had jurisdiction, he could proclaim and define a new "sin" - like
Bishop Tod Brown in Orange County, who said it's a "mortal sin" to kneel after
returning from Communion. Wouldn't that be great? No wonder he's in favor of a
"deal" with Rome. Then he could have his coveted  jurisdiction!!

Or, then again, maybe not.................

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The declaration of the General Chapter shows once again, and against all the false prophecies, that the Society of St. Pius X remains united behind our Superior General. The Society remains faithful to its essential mission and to the work and spirit of our founder Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.


Sorry, another falsehood. Fr. Rostand left out a few "nots." Like NOT united, NOT
faithful. And, while we're at it, the prophesy still stands.................

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The United States District will continue to inform you faithfully and truly on our websites (sspx.org and dici.org) about the fight for the restoration of all things in Christ the King.

With my prayers and blessing in the Immaculate Heart of Mary,

Fr. Arnaud Rostand


And, to prove this is true, the most faithful  

websites (sspx.org and dici.org) will

therefore post the complete sermons of

Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, to whose

work and spirit and essential mission the

Society remains faithful, RIIIIIIGHT????




Oh, but if you log on to sspx.org or dici.org and do NOT find those most elucidating
sermons of +ABL, then just come on over to CathInfo, and dig in, because you'd
be most welcome to do so.................
Since you obviously have an Internet connection, that is.................  :farmer: