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Re: Fr Robinson SSPX SSPX's most dangerous man.
« Reply #40 on: April 14, 2023, 10:28:30 PM »
Fr. Robinson is currently prior at St. Isidore's in Denver.  St. Isidore's is now the location for the SSPX formation program for Novus Ordo priests, headed up by Father.  
St. Isidore's also now has a "master plan" for adding on to the property, to the tune of $7,000,000.  

Obviously the SSPX is fine with Fr. Robinson.

Re: Fr Robinson SSPX SSPX's most dangerous man.
« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2023, 07:45:30 AM »
:jester:  Right.


This is correct.  He's not a formal scientist at all.


Yes...the problem is that like so many accolades nowadays, they give out the title "scientist" like candy without defining it. Bill Nye and Fr. Paul Robinson all may get called "scientists" as a sort of accolade, when in reality neither fit the strict definition.

In the traditional academic "job description" sense, a scientist was someone who developed specialized knowledge or expertise via a long process of research formation (usually via completing a PhD. program), and who then was actively performing new research and contributing new knowledge to that specific field (usually via publishing). It's not just about reading books and passing tests via regurgitation of those facts, or having a science as your undergrad major. Therefore, simply obtaining a bachelor's (or even a non-thesis master's) in biology or engineering etc. does not necessarily qualify one to be a job-description level "scientist"; no formal research training is involved. There might be "scientific" insights, but you wouldn't strictly speaking be qualified as a research scientist.

And since fields in natural science are so big and detailed, unless you are a "Rennaissance man" genius, most of your expertise is going to be in the field you initially studied. That is a huge limitation which is often swept under the carpet. A PhD. who studies insects might be qualified to answer a question about bee anatomy or physiology, but is probably not going to be qualified to answer a question about  fighter jet design like a PhD. physicist, and vice-versa. An honest scientist needs to know their limitations. And in the same way there can be bad and good clergy, there can be bad and good scientists. 

Therefore, it could be argued that Fr. Robinson is not of the highest scientific qualification for the scientific subjects in question, or at least cannot be elevated on a pedestal as more qualified than many others.


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Re: Fr Robinson SSPX SSPX's most dangerous man.
« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2023, 08:35:37 AM »
Yes...the problem is that like so many accolades nowadays, they give out the title "scientist" like candy without defining it. Bill Nye and Fr. Paul Robinson all may get called "scientists" as a sort of accolade, when in reality neither fit the strict definition.

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Therefore, it could be argued that Fr. Robinson is not of the highest scientific qualification for the scientific subjects in question, or at least cannot be elevated on a pedestal as more qualified than many others.

It's likely that Fr. Robinson (and others like him) acknowledge that he's not a fully qualified PhD scientist, HOWEVER it's one of those "but I'm way more qualified than YOU!" deals.

In his mind, the fully qualified research scientist with a PhD has 1000 units of knowledge, honor, etc. And perhaps he only has 50. But he's inappropriately and curiously certain that you have about 2 units. So he's 25X more qualified than you. In other words, he's puffed up with this meager US bachelor's degree education, which places him above so many -- and that's enough for him to puff himself up above you and put you in your place.

Such men might even defer to those occasional men who they consider greater than themselves. But that doesn't include you, or most people he meets.

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Re: Fr Robinson SSPX SSPX's most dangerous man.
« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2023, 10:04:45 AM »
To clarify, Fr Robinson graduated from an engineering college with a degree in computer science.  He’s an IT guy, not a scientist.  I know this for a fact. 

A 5th grade science teacher with a degree in Biology is a more qualified “scientist” than Fr Robinson.  On paper.  No offense to him; he’s just not qualified in this area. 

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Re: Fr Robinson SSPX SSPX's most dangerous man.
« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2023, 10:13:52 AM »
To clarify, Fr Robinson graduated from an engineering college with a degree in computer science.  He’s an IT guy, not a scientist.  I know this for a fact.

A 5th grade science teacher with a degree in Biology is a more qualified “scientist” than Fr Robinson.  On paper.  No offense to him; he’s just not qualified in this area.

But ... but ... he said he read lots of science books and stuff, and because he's good at maths, this makes him eminently qualified.