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Author Topic: Fr. Ribiero da Silva Separated from the SAJM  (Read 20991 times)

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Fr. Ribiero da Silva Separated from the SAJM
« Reply #65 on: August 30, 2021, 07:12:30 AM »
... Monsignor Jean Michel Faure ... demands from his members the same position Archbishop Lefebvre demanded.

That's ridiculous.  Circuмstances and facts change.  Nobody knows what Archbishop Lefebvre would have concluded in the case of Bergoglio.  He could have gone Bennyvacantist or full-blown sedevacantist.  He famously stated that he had come very close to coming out as a sedevacantist after Assisi.  What would he have thought about Bergoglio's approval/sanctioning of adultery, sodomy, or of the Pachamama worship, and suppression of the Tridentine Mass?  We have long-standing Novus Ordites flirting with sedevacantism or at least Bennyvacantism because of Bergoglio.

It's absurd to impose an opinion held 30 years ago as somehow etched in stone for all time.

We have the case of Fr. Ringrose, conditionally ordained by Archbishop Lefebvre, who had staunchly opposed sedevacantism ... now a sedevacantist thanks to Bergoglio.  We even have the likes of Taylor Marshall asking the question of whether Bergoglio is the true pope.

Re: Fr. Ribiero da Silva Separated from the SAJM
« Reply #66 on: August 30, 2021, 07:31:41 AM »
That's ridiculous.  Circuмstances and facts change.  Nobody knows what Archbishop Lefebvre would have concluded in the case of Bergoglio.  He could have gone Bennyvacantist or full-blown sedevacantist.  He famously stated that he had come very close to coming out as a sedevacantist after Assisi.  What would he have thought about Bergoglio's approval/sanctioning of adultery, sodomy, or of the Pachamama worship, and suppression of the Tridentine Mass?  We have long-standing Novus Ordites flirting with sedevacantism or at least Bennyvacantism because of Bergoglio.

It's absurd to impose an opinion held 30 years ago as somehow etched in stone for all time.

We have the case of Fr. Ringrose, conditionally ordained by Archbishop Lefebvre, who had staunchly opposed sedevacantism ... now a sedevacantist thanks to Bergoglio.  We even have the likes of Taylor Marshall asking the question of whether Bergoglio is the true pope.

Yes... Assisi was an unprecedented, dramatic assault on the First Commandment.
 :facepalm:

And JPII did it in his Barnum & Bailey” show-circus style.


Re: Fr. Ribiero da Silva Separated from the SAJM
« Reply #67 on: August 30, 2021, 09:12:44 AM »
That's ridiculous.  Circuмstances and facts change.  Nobody knows what Archbishop Lefebvre would have concluded in the case of Bergoglio.  He could have gone Bennyvacantist or full-blown sedevacantist.  He famously stated that he had come very close to coming out as a sedevacantist after Assisi.  What would he have thought about Bergoglio's approval/sanctioning of adultery, sodomy, or of the Pachamama worship, and suppression of the Tridentine Mass?  We have long-standing Novus Ordites flirting with sedevacantism or at least Bennyvacantism because of Bergoglio.

It's absurd to impose an opinion held 30 years ago as somehow etched in stone for all time.

We have the case of Fr. Ringrose, conditionally ordained by Archbishop Lefebvre, who had staunchly opposed sedevacantism ... now a sedevacantist thanks to Bergoglio.  We even have the likes of Taylor Marshall asking the question of whether Bergoglio is the true pope.
That’s exactly right. Prideful arrogance assumes what deceased archbishops would do and say today. Then dogmatize it.
Fr. Ribeiro’s apostolate has continued to grow and do well in São Paolo where he runs a minor seminary. Everything indicates he made the right choice. 
Yes, he is non una cuм. 

Re: Fr. Ribiero da Silva Expelled from the SAJM
« Reply #68 on: September 03, 2021, 05:05:14 AM »
What "canonical process of explusion"?  There's no canonically established group known as SAJM in the first place.
Indeed I have to agree with Ladislaus. SAJM or SSPX-MC were never canonically founded in the first place.
Don't they have a better candidate than a 30-year old?

Re: Fr. Ribiero da Silva Separated from the SAJM
« Reply #69 on: September 03, 2021, 05:08:29 AM »
Yes... Assisi was an unprecedented, dramatic assault on the First Commandment.
 :facepalm:

And JPII did it in his Barnum & Bailey” show-circus style.
On the other hand, Assisi happened in 1986 and +Lefebvre pondered for almost 2 years before finally performing the episcopal consecrations in 1988.