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Re: Fr. Ribiero da Silva Separated from the SAJM
« Reply #45 on: July 30, 2018, 12:10:47 PM »
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  • I said weeks, but this video was actually from before his ordination.


    OK, so you said "weeks" and Sean translated that to mean just a "few weeks ago" (you probably shouldn't have said "weeks").  And then a bunch of people just assumed that this priest changed his views overnight just a few weeks ago and questioned his ability to be a good priest.

    So, really, we don't know exactly when his change in position occurred.  It seems much more likely that he has been thinking about it since his ordination 7 months ago and has recently officially changed it.  It certainly doesn't sound like he changed his position overnight nor like he deceived anyone before his ordination.

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    Re: Fr. Ribiero da Silva Separated from the SAJM
    « Reply #46 on: July 30, 2018, 12:14:11 PM »
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  • I only saw that video within the last several weeks and just assumed it was more recent without checking the date posted but the fact is that he did change suddenly his position. It was not over time. I don’t really see what it matters. He didn’t deceive his superiors to get holy orders. He studied part of his time in Avrille with the Dominicans and he has been fully involved in the resistance since up to about a week ago. 
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...


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    Re: Fr. Ribiero da Silva Separated from the SAJM
    « Reply #47 on: July 30, 2018, 12:26:54 PM »
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  • Here’s Fr. Rodrigo’s Facebook profile where he claims to now be connected to Bishop Daniel Dolan. There are tons of sedevacantist Catholics in Brazil with no priest. It’s not even a matter of taking resistance chapels with him. He can end up having larger chapels and groups than the Brazilian resistance when it’s all said and done and it’s not really visible to the casual observer. There’s more than meets the eye even the Brazilian resistance priests are probably not aware of the full situation.

    He is also working together with a group of Franciscans in São Paolo. I think he doesn’t need to take chapels from te resistance.


    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100017358491544

    Why might he try to take Resistance chapels with him? Hopefully he wouldn't want to do that. Are there that many in the Resistance in Brazil who are really sedevacantist, and will follow Fr. Rodrigo's lead?

    It seems to me that perhaps one of the reasons for Bp. Faure's communication in the OP is to let everyone in the Resistance know that Father is no longer associated with the Resistance. That would necessarily include the Brazilian Resistance.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Fr. Ribiero da Silva Separated from the SAJM
    « Reply #48 on: July 30, 2018, 12:32:02 PM »
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  • Why might he try to take Resistance chapels with him? Hopefully he wouldn't want to do that. Are there that many in the Resistance in Brazil who are really sedevacantist, and will follow Fr. Rodrigo's lead?

    It seems to me that perhaps one of the reasons for Bp. Faure's communication in the OP is to let everyone in the Resistance know that Father is no longer associated with the Resistance. That would necessarily include the Brazilian Resistance.
    Bishop Faure hasn’t even spoken on this matter. 
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    Re: Fr. Ribiero da Silva Separated from the SAJM
    « Reply #49 on: July 30, 2018, 12:35:49 PM »
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  • You had a question about the anti-resistance videos Centroamerica mentioned in his post,
    I never mentioned any anti-resistance videos. I don’t know what half the people on this thread are talking about. Seems like they’re just making up stuff and rolling with it. 
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...


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    Re: Fr. Ribiero da Silva Separated from the SAJM
    « Reply #50 on: July 30, 2018, 12:43:35 PM »
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  • Bishop Faure hasn’t even spoken on this matter.

    My mistake. I should have said it was Bp. Aquinas who has provided the communication that's posted in the O.P.

    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Fr. Ribiero da Silva Separated from the SAJM
    « Reply #51 on: July 30, 2018, 01:28:45 PM »
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  • I never mentioned any anti-resistance videos. I don’t know what half the people on this thread are talking about. Seems like they’re just making up stuff and rolling with it.

    Obviously meant anti-sedevacantism videos, per your own comment on p.1
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Fr. Ribiero da Silva Separated from the SAJM
    « Reply #52 on: August 04, 2018, 04:19:50 PM »
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  • Da Silva can no longer be trusted, either because of a liar or mental instability :facepalm:. They should find out what part of Brazil is located so that the faithful know where they should not attend mass :pray: :incense:.

    Excuse my ignorance: Are those Franciscans minors or Capuchins? Who reordered them sub conditione? Who are they?  :(

    Thanks! 


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    Re: Fr. Ribiero da Silva Separated from the SAJM
    « Reply #53 on: August 14, 2018, 02:42:03 AM »
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  • Dont know if this group was also linked to the SAJM. They have put out this statement:

    https://fradesconcepcionistas.wordpress.com/2018/08/13/official-statement-of-our-accession-to-the-sedevacantist-position/


     
     Epístola Tombo, Fundador e Prior Geral, Reverendo Frei Gabriel de Nossa Senhora das Dores, CIPICM, Sedevacantismo
    Official Statement of Our Accession to the Sedevacantist Position
    Publicado por Congregação dos Irmãos Pobres do Imaculado Coração de Maria em 13 13America/Sao_Paulo agosto 13America/Sao_Paulo 2018
    Official Statement of Our Accession to the  Sedevacantist Position
    Rev. Friar Gabriel of Our Lady of Sorrows, CIPICM. (Founder and Prior General)
    + Hail Mary Most Pure! Dear brothers and sisters, on this solemn day we return to our activities through our website, we have issued an Official Declaration in the form of Epistola Tombo, written by our Father Founder and Prior General Rev. Friar Gabriel of Our Lady of Sorrows, CIPICM; on our adherence to the sedevacantist position, today our Congregation Officially, with all the Friars, becomes Sedevacantist. Click the link below and read the Epistle Tombo. We ask you to pray for us, we also commit ourselves to pray for all.
     
     
     
     
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    Offline SeanJohnson

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    Re: Fr. Ribiero da Silva Separated from the SAJM
    « Reply #54 on: August 14, 2018, 06:20:57 AM »
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  • Bizarre pic.

    Meanwhile, who is this Friar Gabriel?
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Fr. Ribiero da Silva Separated from the SAJM
    « Reply #55 on: August 14, 2018, 06:33:33 AM »
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  • Is the superior. They were modernist friars founded two years ago, after going through the fsspx and being with Dom Tomás for a year, they left with Da Silva. There are three counting the novice. Next to them are the Franciscans with the same story, only I do not know if they went through the fsspx. None is a priest and they attended Father Rodrigo's Mass in San Pablo. Now they use the mass center that used the so-called "resistance". I do not know if the faithful went to sedevacantism or only sedevacantes always come. He assures to prepare video in these days, explaining his exit.


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    Re: Fr. Ribiero da Silva Separated from the SAJM
    « Reply #56 on: August 20, 2018, 10:12:13 AM »
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  • I leave a link to the video where Father Rodrigo Da Silva explains his situation. It is in Portuguese only. Promise more explanatory videos.



    Summary explanation of what I could understand:

    He waited a prudential time to see the attitude of the bishops of the so-called "Resistance", especially Dom Tomas.

    Before the appearance of the statement on his separation, he explains that on what has been said of acts of disobedience, he will not enter into personal questions, so he will not respond to these false accusations. He only explains why he adopted the Sedevacante position.

    During his formation, he spoke with important priests of the so-called "resistance", especially those of sedevacatory position. This led him to speak with Dom Tomas about how he could not in conscience pray for a formal heretic like Bergoglio (he cites Dom Guéranger as a source and the classic explanations of the vacant See). Given that explanation, he claims not to get an answer from Dom Tomás. Days later appears the famous statement about his separation from the SAJM.

    Then he goes on to quote the classic position of the sedevacantists, using Dom Guéranger and other authors who do not understand who they are because they are cited in Portuguese.

    He continues with the incoherent position of the so-called "resistance" to resist and recognize, criticizes the attitude of bishops who wish to collaborate with sedevacantist priests and then oppress them or try to impose their position. In addition to talking about the incompetence of the bishops in the management of the SAJM (for this he recommends reading articles from LA SAPINIERE, and from sedevacantist priests of what he claims to be "resistance".

    At the moment he directs the chapel of San Pablo (Brazil), that happened to his hands and maintained by some lay people that went with him (something more than 20 people). He was also joined by 4 Franciscan friars coming from modernism and the Conceptionist Franciscan friars (number 3), also from modernism, who after being with FSSPX and a year with Dom Tomás, left. In addition, there is a Carmelite nun coming out of modernism (it is not cloistered).


    I wonder: What do the bishops hide? 

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    Re: Fr. Ribiero da Silva Separated from the SAJM
    « Reply #57 on: August 20, 2018, 10:33:25 AM »
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  • I leave a link to the video where Father Rodrigo Da Silva explains his situation. It is in Portuguese only.

    Could you please post the video or the link!?

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    Re: Fr. Ribiero da Silva Separated from the SAJM
    « Reply #58 on: August 20, 2018, 10:35:47 AM »
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  • The 'spirit of pride' of our age, also affects many priests/bishops of tradition, as this situation proves.  Let us pray for ALL the traditional priests/bishops, because they will have a LOT to answer for on judgement day.  Traditionalism could have peace but for their lust for power and control.

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    Re: Fr. Ribiero da Silva Separated from the SAJM
    « Reply #59 on: August 20, 2018, 10:36:10 AM »
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  • During his formation, he spoke with important priests of the so-called "resistance", especially those of sedevacatory position. This led him to speak with Dom Tomas about how he could not in conscience pray for a formal heretic like Bergoglio (he cites Dom Guéranger as a source and the classic explanations of the vacant See). Given that explanation, he claims not to get an answer from Dom Tomás. Days later appears the famous statement about his separation from the SAJM.




    I wonder: What do the bishops hide?

    So Fr. Ribiero de Silva was upset because (among other reasons too) Dom Thomas Aquinas could not give an answer (he claims) as to how he could in good conscience pray for a heretic like Bergolio. Days later Fr. de Silva separates from the SAJM. Sounds like the same ol' sede story. A sedevacantist cannot impose his views on the leadership, so he gets upset. What else is new. The sedes have a need for never-ending intrigue and division.

    And then there's the question in the above post regarding something that the bishops are supposedly hiding. What do you think they could be hiding, Hermit Urban? Please do tell us.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29