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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Fr. Remi Picot Joins the SAJM
« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2022, 08:01:18 AM »
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  • I always have thought that well-trimmed beards gave priests an extra air of respect.  My favorite pictures of Archbishop Lefebvre are from when he was a missionary priest with a beard.  Sort of like the old Southern beard you would find on Robert E Lee. 😅

    I agree.  I too like the pictures of the bearded +Lefebvre.  Of course, each culture is different.  It was primarily the Romans who equated being clean-shaven with being "civilized" or "cultured" ... and the term "barbarian" derives from the Latin word for beard ("barba").  But in most cultures, a clean-shaven man was thought of as effeminate, similar to a young man who hadn't reached maturity and was incapable of growing a beard.



    Offline Giovanni Berto

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    Re: Fr. Remi Picot Joins the SAJM
    « Reply #31 on: December 13, 2022, 11:27:47 AM »
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    Well, you are from a different country, so maybe the cultural dynamics I'm describing aren't the same down there. I don't know.

    A picture of one extremely exceptional person is not relevant in a discussion about general social trends. You'd have to support your position (whatever it is) by pictures of random people that can be taken as representative of the population, or of social trends, as I did.

    I simply pointed out an observable fact, supported by evidence (though I think it's pretty self-evident in itself) that people shaved their face in civilized times, and that the enemies of civilization make a point about not shaving. I speculated on why this should be the case. But as a cultural trend it is unmistakable.

    Why do you think it is that the hippies didn't shave?

    I think that I am not mistaken to think that most man in the middle ages had some kind of facial hair. Most portraits of kings from that era show bearded and long haired men.

    The middle ages were the climax of our civilization. So, I don't see a relation between lack of facial hair and "civilized times".

    The hippies surely wore long beards and long hair as a sign of protest. We agree here. But, as I see it, it is something that stayed in the 60s. In the 70s, beards were common enough that most people wouldn't see a bearded man as a revolutionary.

    Before World War I, long, bushy beards were very fashionable. The hippie movement started about forty years after that was was over. So, it seems obvious to me that their rebel beards were something that had significance for a relatively short amount of time. 


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    Re: Fr. Remi Picot Joins the SAJM
    « Reply #32 on: December 13, 2022, 02:13:29 PM »
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  • Fr. MacDonald spends most of his time traveling between New Zealand and Ireland (with occassional visits to the USA).
    Sean, I know he spends his time between Oz and NZ, but I meant what  group does he belong to. if any?
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    Re: Fr. Remi Picot Joins the SAJM
    « Reply #33 on: December 13, 2022, 02:19:44 PM »
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  • Sean, I know he spends his time between Oz and NZ, but I meant what  group does he belong to. if any?

    He is independent.
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    Re: Fr. Remi Picot Joins the SAJM
    « Reply #34 on: December 13, 2022, 02:47:22 PM »
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  • He is independent.
    Thanks for clearing that up, Sean.
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    Re: Fr. Remi Picot Joins the SAJM
    « Reply #35 on: December 13, 2022, 04:15:01 PM »
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  • I agree.  I too like the pictures of the bearded +Lefebvre.  Of course, each culture is different.  It was primarily the Romans who equated being clean-shaven with being "civilized" or "cultured" ... and the term "barbarian" derives from the Latin word for beard ("barba").  But in most cultures, a clean-shaven man was thought of as effeminate, similar to a young man who hadn't reached maturity and was incapable of growing a beard.


    Oo!!!  That is my favorite picture of the Archbishop so far!  Thanks for sharing!  :cowboy:
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    Re: Fr. Remi Picot Joins the SAJM
    « Reply #36 on: December 13, 2022, 04:17:47 PM »
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  • I think that I am not mistaken to think that most man in the middle ages had some kind of facial hair. Most portraits of kings from that era show bearded and long haired men.

    The middle ages were the climax of our civilization. So, I don't see a relation between lack of facial hair and "civilized times".

    The hippies surely wore long beards and long hair as a sign of protest. We agree here. But, as I see it, it is something that stayed in the 60s. In the 70s, beards were common enough that most people wouldn't see a bearded man as a revolutionary.

    Before World War I, long, bushy beards were very fashionable. The hippie movement started about forty years after that was was over. So, it seems obvious to me that their rebel beards were something that had significance for a relatively short amount of time.
    It my opinion the difference of hippie and barbaric beards and gentleman beards is that hippie beards tend to be wild and not trimmed and a gentleman has a well-trimmed beard...  :popcorn:



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