My daughter said the SSPX priest said at the sermon this morning, that those who go to the resistance Masses are going to hell.
Will get back with y'all later, because I have to travel to the resistance Mass this evening. Bye and God Bless :furtive: :confused1: :scared2: :smile: :sad: :barf:
My daughter said the SSPX priest said at the sermon this morning, that those who go to the resistance Masses are going to hell.
Will get back with y'all later, because I have to travel to the resistance Mass this evening. Bye and God Bless :furtive: :confused1: :scared2: :smile: :sad: :barf:
I can't wait to hear that recording. Both resistance priests know that I take my family to the local SSPX when they are not in town. None of them said me that all my little ones would go to hell for doing so. Quite the opposite, they ask "what is the mood like at your chapel. "
My daughter said the SSPX priest said at the sermon this morning, that those who go to the resistance Masses are going to hell.
Will get back with y'all later, because I have to travel to the resistance Mass this evening. Bye and God Bless :furtive: :confused1: :scared2: :smile: :sad: :barf:
Quote from: For Greater GloryMy daughter said the SSPX priest said at the sermon this morning, that those who go to the resistance Masses are going to hell.
Will get back with y'all later, because I have to travel to the resistance Mass this evening. Bye and God Bless :furtive: :confused1: :scared2: :smile: :sad: :barf:
WANTING to attend a Mass offered by a Resistance priest should count, right?
After all, it isn't just adulterers that are condemned, but all who attempted or desired adultery in their hearts (without repenting) even though they were thwarted in some way.
According to Catholic moral theology, desiring to commit some mortal sin is a mortal sin itself.
So I'm in the same boat -- condemned by this priest! Plus I've attended Mass by Fr. Hewko or Fr. Pfeiffer 4 times, and I am unrepentant!
:rolleyes:
All I know is that this priest (whoever he is) has completely LOST IT when it comes to Tradition, the fight against modernism, and even Catholic theology. Where did he learn theology, a crackerjack box?
Whatever "seminary" taught this priest isn't worth a hill of beans. One solid, holy, well-formed Catholic priest is better than thousands of modernist, ill-trained, lukewarm worldly priests.
My daughter said the SSPX priest said at the sermon this morning,...
IF For Greater Glory's daughter was at FGG's usual place for Mass, her regular priest is Fr. Portugal.
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What's the chance that the order to promote this lie came from this priest's immediate superior?
Quote from: MaterDominiciIF For Greater Glory's daughter was at FGG's usual place for Mass, her regular priest is Fr. Portugal.
Looks like Fr. Portugal has some questions to answer, don't it?
Does anyone have his phone number?!?!
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Is this your way of fulfilling Our Lady's prophesy, Father, that,
"In Portugal, the dogma of the faith will always be preserved?"
.Quote from: IF it is Fr. Portugal, THEN there is a lingering question, that would have
Is this your way of fulfilling Our Lady's prophesy, Father, that,
"In Portugal, the dogma of the faith will always be preserved?"
.
Quote from: MaterDominiciIF For Greater Glory's daughter was at FGG's usual place for Mass, her regular priest is Fr. Portugal.
Looks like Fr. Portugal has some questions to answer, don't it?
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Quote from: Neil ObstatQuote from: MaterDominiciIF For Greater Glory's daughter was at FGG's usual place for Mass, her regular priest is Fr. Portugal.
Looks like Fr. Portugal has some questions to answer, don't it?
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I thought Portugal would never lose the Dogma of the Faith. :scratchchin:
Quote from: Neil Obstat.Quote from: IF it is Fr. Portugal, THEN there is a lingering question, that would have
Is this your way of fulfilling Our Lady's prophesy, Father, that,
"In Portugal, the dogma of the faith will always be preserved?"
.
:laugh1:
Hi,
Just got back from Fr. Pfeiffer's Mass near New Orleans. It's mid-night, but thought I would tell you what Fr. Portugal said at Mass this morning. He said he wasn't going to give this type of sermon, but he had no choice because it had been brought to his attention. Father said people are always accusing the SSPX of hiding things and not giving the full story. But he noticed these accusers weren't at Mass this morning! It's funny how people have so much time to spend on the internet, believe cօռspιʀαcιҽs and gossip, when they should be going to Mass and receiving the sacraments, because priests like himself who spend 10 hours driving through ice to say Mass and only two people show up. (This was yesterday. Authorities had closed the roads and told everyone to stay home).
Father also explained all the things he does for us and here, some of us were going off to a Mass said by a rebellious priest. He said the SSPX is always being attacked by the novus ordo, the sedevacantists and others and now this! (conspiracy people)
Father said that people wonder why there is a need for a second judgment, but he said it's a comforting thought to know there is one, because God will deal with these evil people!
After Mass, my daughter turned to her fiancee and said, "I can sum this whole sermon up in a sentence. The people going to Mass this evening, along with the priest are going to burn in hell and Father Portugal is going to be nominated for sainthood and going to heaven!" :cheers:
This is not good for young adults. My daughter's fiancee is learning about the Catholic faith and has been going to Mass with her. This last incident has been a real turn-off for him. Both he and my daughter thought Father was uncharitable.
On a happier note, we had a nice little group of people for Mass this evening, but more were expected. Maybe Fr. Portugal scared them off? Fr. Pfeiffer gave an excellent sermon and gave us lots of information about the crisis in the SSPX.
It's funny how people have so much time to spend on the internet, believe cօռspιʀαcιҽs and gossip, when they should be going to Mass and receiving the sacraments, because priests like himself who spend 10 hours driving through ice to say Mass and only two people show up. (This was yesterday. Authorities had closed the roads and told everyone to stay home).
This is not good for young adults. My daughter's fiancee is learning about the Catholic faith and has been going to Mass with her. This last incident has been a real turn-off for him. Both he and my daughter thought Father was uncharitable.
On a happier note, we had a nice little group of people for Mass this evening, but more were expected. Maybe Fr. Portugal scared them off? Fr. Pfeiffer gave an excellent sermon and gave us lots of information about the crisis in the SSPX.
Quote from: ggregQuote from: Neil ObstatQuote from: MaterDominiciIF For Greater Glory's daughter was at FGG's usual place for Mass, her regular priest is Fr. Portugal.
Looks like Fr. Portugal has some questions to answer, don't it?
.
I thought Portugal would never lose the Dogma of the Faith. :scratchchin:
:laugh1:
You're right on target, ggreg! (But you should have read three more posts on that page!)Quote from: MaterDominiciQuote from: Neil Obstat.Quote from: IF it is Fr. Portugal, THEN there is a lingering question, that would have
Is this your way of fulfilling Our Lady's prophesy, Father, that,
"In Portugal, the dogma of the faith will always be preserved?"
.
:laugh1:
I'm sorry, I just have to ask how old is your daughter. Is there a chance that she was mistaken or could have taken the priests words out of context? If what is said here is true, then it is very serious, not to mention objectively sinful on the part of the said priest. But I wouldn't go around spreading this information, if you don't mind, based on the hearsay of a young girl. Even a girl in her teens is capable of exaggerating (unconsciously) the words of a perceived threat to her parents for the sake of attention/ approval. I appreciate the OP's input, but I cannot in justice help wonder if there is a disconnect somewhere, though I do not blame the girl or the OP.
Hi,
Just got back from Fr. Pfeiffer's Mass near New Orleans. It's mid-night, but thought I would tell you what Fr. Portugal said at Mass this morning. He said he wasn't going to give this type of sermon, but he had no choice because it had been brought to his attention. Father said people are always accusing the SSPX of hiding things and not giving the full story. But he noticed these accusers weren't at Mass this morning! It's funny how people have so much time to spend on the internet, believe cօռspιʀαcιҽs and gossip, when they should be going to Mass and receiving the sacraments, because priests like himself who spend 10 hours driving through ice to say Mass and only two people show up. (This was yesterday. Authorities had closed the roads and told everyone to stay home).
Father also explained all the things he does for us and here, some of us were going off to a Mass said by a rebellious priest. He said the SSPX is always being attacked by the novus ordo, the sedevacantists and others and now this! (conspiracy people) Father said that people wonder why there is a need for a second judgment, but he said it's a comforting thought to know there is one, because God will deal with these evil people!
After Mass, my daughter turned to her fiancee and said, " I can sum this whole sermon up in a sentence. The people going to Mass this evening, along with the priest are going to burn in hell and Father Portugal is going to be nominated for sainthood and going to heaven!" :cheers:
This is not good for young adults. My daughter's fiancee is learning about the Catholic faith and has been going to Mass with her. This last incident has been a real turn-off for him. Both he and my daughter thought Father was uncharitable.
On a happier note, we had a nice little group of people for Mass this evening, but more were expected. Maybe Fr. Portugal scared them off? Fr. Pfeiffer gave an excellent sermon and gave us lots of information about the crisis in the SSPX.
Quote from: IF it is Fr. Portugal, THEN there is a lingering question, that would have
Is this your way of fulfilling Our Lady's prophesy, Father, that,
"In Portugal, the dogma of the faith will always be preserved?"
Quote from: Neil ObstatQuote from: IF it is Fr. Portugal, THEN there is a lingering question, that would have
Is this your way of fulfilling Our Lady's prophesy, Father, that,
"In Portugal, the dogma of the faith will always be preserved?"
:roll-laugh1:
Yes, that has to be what Our Lady of Fatima meant after all; that there would be a Fr. Portugal who would rise up as True Pope to restore the Church. We never would have guessed that she could be so subtle.
I'm sorry, I just have to ask how old is your daughter. Is there a chance that she was mistaken or could have taken the priests words out of context? If what is said here is true, then it is very serious, not to mention objectively sinful on the part of the said priest. But I wouldn't go around spreading this information, if you don't mind, based on the hearsay of a young girl. Even a girl in her teens is capable of exaggerating (unconsciously) the words of a perceived threat to her parents for the sake of attention/ approval. I appreciate the OP's input, but I cannot in justice help wonder if there is a disconnect somewhere, though I do not blame the girl or the OP.
Quote from: For Greater GloryHi,
Just got back from Fr. Pfeiffer's Mass near New Orleans. It's mid-night, but thought I would tell you what Fr. Portugal said at Mass this morning. He said he wasn't going to give this type of sermon, but he had no choice because it had been brought to his attention. Father said people are always accusing the SSPX of hiding things and not giving the full story. But he noticed these accusers weren't at Mass this morning! It's funny how people have so much time to spend on the internet, believe cօռspιʀαcιҽs and gossip, when they should be going to Mass and receiving the sacraments, because priests like himself who spend 10 hours driving through ice to say Mass and only two people show up. (This was yesterday. Authorities had closed the roads and told everyone to stay home).
Father also explained all the things he does for us and here, some of us were going off to a Mass said by a rebellious priest. He said the SSPX is always being attacked by the novus ordo, the sedevacantists and others and now this! (conspiracy people)
Father said that people wonder why there is a need for a second judgment, but he said it's a comforting thought to know there is one, because God will deal with these evil people!
After Mass, my daughter turned to her fiancee and said, "I can sum this whole sermon up in a sentence. The people going to Mass this evening, along with the priest are going to burn in hell and Father Portugal is going to be nominated for sainthood and going to heaven!" :cheers:
This is not good for young adults. My daughter's fiancee is learning about the Catholic faith and has been going to Mass with her. This last incident has been a real turn-off for him. Both he and my daughter thought Father was uncharitable.
On a happier note, we had a nice little group of people for Mass this evening, but more were expected. Maybe Fr. Portugal scared them off? Fr. Pfeiffer gave an excellent sermon and gave us lots of information about the crisis in the SSPX.
A-ha!
So it WAS an Internet rumour!
It wasn't Fr. Portugal literally saying that
those who assist at Resistance Masses will go to hell,
but rather that was the IMAGE HE PUT INTO THE MIND OF THE LISTENER
without Fr. Portugal having to say the words!
This way,
he can deliver a message like this, and then later,
he can deny that he delivered the message!!
TA-DAAAA!
(That's not the same as Te Deum.)
What he SAID was,
He wasn't going to give this type of sermon, but he had no choice because it had been brought to his attention.
*READ* "I'm not responsible for this."
He said that people are always accusing the SSPX of hiding things and not giving the full story.
*READ* "Conspiracy theorists are running rampant, especially on the Internet!"
He noticed these accusers weren't at Mass this morning!
*READ* "Internet rumours effect home-alone-ism."
He said, it's funny how people have so much time to spend on the internet.
*READ* "Internet use is EVIL."
He said they believe cօռspιʀαcιҽs and gossip, when they should be going to Mass and receiving the sacraments.
*READ* "If you only listened to me instead of reading the Internet you wouldn't have these problems!"
He said priests like himself who spend 10 hours driving through ice to say Mass and then, only two people show up.
*READ* "Oy-Veh! I'm being victimized! This is discrimination!"
He said that after all the things he does for us and here, some of us were going off to a Mass said by a rebellious priest.
*READ* "Shame on you for not remaining subject to my hypnosis!"
He said the SSPX is always being attacked by the novus ordo.
*READ* "Oy-Veh! We Society priests are the victims here!"
He said that the SSPX is always being attacked by the sedevacantists.
*READ* "Sedevacantism results when you deny Vat.II, OR the new orientation of the SSPX."
He said that the SSPX is always being attacked by others, and now this! -- the SSPX is now being attacked by conspiracy-believing people!
*READ* "The reality is in your mind -- BUT YOUR SUBJECTIVE REALITY IS WRONG!"
Father said that people wonder why there is a need for a second judgment.
*READ* "Let me explain to you what God has in mind, because I know the mind of God!"
Father said, but it's a comforting thought to know there is a second judgment.
*READ* "Here goes!"
Father said that God will deal with these evil people!
*READ* "My word is the GOSPEL TRUTH! Because as an SSPX priest who agrees with the Menzingen-denizens, I HAVE THE GRACE OF STATE! MY JUDGMENT IS TANTAMOUNT TO GOD'S JUDGMENT!"
*READ* "If You Don't Come Here To Mass, You Can Just Go To Hell."Now, that's a horse of a different color!
But it's still noteworthy. This demonstrates several principles at work.
The new orientation of the Society makes them try to accommodate Newchurch, and this is what happens when you try to accommodate Newchurch. You get ambiguous language that tries to impart an image into the minds of the listener, and that image is going to be DIFFERENT in the mind of different listeners.
This is actually the REVERSE of what the Apostles had -- the gift of tongues, whereby they spoke one language to a crowd, and various different people in the crowd whose native tongues were different, each heard the Apostles speaking in each of those various languages. But they all heard the SAME MESSAGE!
Now, we have the opposite phenomenon going on. Now an ambiguous sermon means different things to different people ALL OF WHOM SPEAK THE SAME NATIVE TONGUE that the priest is speaking, but each of whom has different ways of understanding his words. They all hear a DIFFERENT message!Quote
It's funny how people have so much time to spend on the internet, believe cօռspιʀαcιҽs and gossip, when they should be going to Mass and receiving the sacraments, because priests like himself who spend 10 hours driving through ice to say Mass and only two people show up. (This was yesterday. Authorities had closed the roads and told everyone to stay home).
What's the principle at work in THIS?
"It's all about ME!"
The reality is in the mind!
What's real is what is SUBJECTIVE!
The subjective reality is this:
WE POOR OVERWORKED PRIESTS ARE NOT APPRECIATED!
OUR POOR SSPX IS NOT APPRECIATED!
FOR ALL WE DO, AND WHAT DO WE GET FOR IT?
WE IGNORE PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND USE THE ROADS TO GET TO MASS ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
(Read: they were disobedient of traffic authorities and used the roads when they were told to STAY HOME -- then they criticize others who obeyed the legitimate authorities and stayed home.......the disobedient accuse the obedient of being disobedient!! How's THAT for DIABOLICAL DISORIENTATION!!)
There's more -- but I can already hear members complaining this post is 'too long'.
You're not on ignore Neil Obstat- I just do not enjoy your posting style. It is too time-consuming to follow.
Quote from: s2sreaYou're not on ignore Neil Obstat- I just do not enjoy your posting style. It is too time-consuming to follow.
So then you don't know what I posted, which explains why you would then make an ignorant post like the one you did. Do you enjoy making ignorant posts? Is it more fun just not knowing things? Or is it too much work to read a few sentences?
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... a few sentences?
Quote from: Neil Obstat... a few sentences?
:dancing-banana:?????!!!!!
Quote from: s2sreaI'm sorry, I just have to ask how old is your daughter. Is there a chance that she was mistaken or could have taken the priests words out of context? If what is said here is true, then it is very serious, not to mention objectively sinful on the part of the said priest. But I wouldn't go around spreading this information, if you don't mind, based on the hearsay of a young girl. Even a girl in her teens is capable of exaggerating (unconsciously) the words of a perceived threat to her parents for the sake of attention/ approval. I appreciate the OP's input, but I cannot in justice help wonder if there is a disconnect somewhere, though I do not blame the girl or the OP.
Hi s2rea,
When I got home late last night, I was able to post more information. It's on page 10. My daughter is 30 years old, raised in the faith, Catholic homeschooling, and has attended the SSPX since she was 14. Her fiancee is 43 years old. I really don't think they misunderstood, because we (myself and others) have had to endure Father's sermons for awhile now. Some of what he says is correct, but it's the way he delivers it. He is in need of prayers. I understand he's been a very good priest in the past.
What gets me, is that Father will not discuss the matter of the SSPX-Rome issue with us. He just attacks. Kyrie Eleison
:dancing-banana:
Fr. Portugal drove 10 hours to find only two parishioners because the rest went went to the Mass of another priest with whom he is upset. I guess I'd be a bit put out by that, myself. He did not actually say the missing people were going to Hell. He gave his opinion. If that's all he did, forget it. I don't agree with Fr. Portugal, but I think this incident has all the makings of a true internet rumor!
My daughter said the SSPX priest said at the sermon this morning, that those who go to the resistance Masses are going to hell.
Will get back with y'all later, because I have to travel to the resistance Mass this evening. Bye and God Bless :furtive: :confused1: :scared2: :smile: :sad: :barf:
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(Here is more information, posted later in the thread by FGG:)
Hi,
Just got back from Fr. Pfeiffer's Mass near New Orleans. It's mid-night, but thought I would tell you what Fr. Portugal said at Mass this morning. He said he wasn't going to give this type of sermon, but he had no choice because it had been brought to his attention. Father said people are always accusing the SSPX of hiding things and not giving the full story. But he noticed these accusers weren't at Mass this morning! It's funny how people have so much time to spend on the internet, believe cօռspιʀαcιҽs and gossip, when they should be going to Mass and receiving the sacraments, because priests like himself who spend 10 hours driving through ice to say Mass and only two people show up. (This was yesterday. Authorities had closed the roads and told everyone to stay home).
Father also explained all the things he does for us and here, some of us were going off to a Mass said by a rebellious priest. He said the SSPX is always being attacked by the novus ordo, the sedevacantists and others and now this! (conspiracy people) Father said that people wonder why there is a need for a second judgment, but he said it's a comforting thought to know there is one, because God will deal with these evil people!
After Mass, my daughter turned to her fiancee and said, " I can sum this whole sermon up in a sentence. The people going to Mass this evening, along with the priest are going to burn in hell and Father Portugal is going to be nominated for sainthood and going to heaven!" :cheers:
This is not good for young adults. My daughter's fiancee is learning about the Catholic faith and has been going to Mass with her. This last incident has been a real turn-off for him. Both he and my daughter thought Father was uncharitable.
On a happier note, we had a nice little group of people for Mass this evening, but more were expected. Maybe Fr. Portugal scared them off? Fr. Pfeiffer gave an excellent sermon and gave us lots of information about the crisis in the SSPX.
Quote from: For Greater GloryQuote from: s2sreaI'm sorry, I just have to ask how old is your daughter. Is there a chance that she was mistaken or could have taken the priests words out of context? If what is said here is true, then it is very serious, not to mention objectively sinful on the part of the said priest. But I wouldn't go around spreading this information, if you don't mind, based on the hearsay of a young girl. Even a girl in her teens is capable of exaggerating (unconsciously) the words of a perceived threat to her parents for the sake of attention/ approval. I appreciate the OP's input, but I cannot in justice help wonder if there is a disconnect somewhere, though I do not blame the girl or the OP.
Hi s2rea,
When I got home late last night, I was able to post more information. It's on page 10. My daughter is 30 years old, raised in the faith, Catholic homeschooling, and has attended the SSPX since she was 14. Her fiancee is 43 years old. I really don't think they misunderstood, because we (myself and others) have had to endure Father's sermons for awhile now. Some of what he says is correct, but it's the way he delivers it. He is in need of prayers. I understand he's been a very good priest in the past.
What gets me, is that Father will not discuss the matter of the SSPX-Rome issue with us. He just attacks. Kyrie Eleison
Maybe I'm being judgemental because I don't know the people jnvolved, but this is ridiculous to me. The same arguments as to why people are not liking the SSPX here are the same arguments as to why I am dealing in real life with people not wanting to attend resistance Masses. I attend a resistance Mass, and heard criticism that this resistance priest will stop talking during a sermon and suggests that a child is taken out who makes noise. Here the posters were crying about the "novelty" of cryrooms. Now they are complaining about not liking a certain priests sermons etc.
The truth is you people are snobs in both camps who think you are better are smarter than our priests who sacrafice everything for your ingratitude. The way he delivers his sermon, my daughter doesn't like him. And then you have the audacity to get on here and say that a priest said something he did not, whether you corrected it later or not doesn't even matter. I think it was St. Dom Bosco who had a couple of gossipers do penance by walking through a town plucking the feathers off of a live chicken. Then when they saw him and they had finished he asked them to go and gather every single feather. When they said they could not he told them that is the same with repairing the damage done by their rumors. Who knows where the winds have carried them off to.
Speaking bluntly, these priest slandering gossiping women who are seeking to spread their rumors through the resistance are doing harm to both the resistance and the good priests who are in the SSPX. Snobs like this don't even have the faith in my opinion or if they did they would be more prudent about diffusing rumors about one of Christ's priest. Really though. These people are pieces of crap in my opinion. You want to talk about priests go talk about the Novus Ordo or someone who deserves to be criticized. But din't criticize a good priest just because your daughter doesn't like him because he is strick in terms of marriage or tough in the confessional or whatever prejudices someone might hold.
Quote from: CentroamericaQuote from: For Greater GloryQuote from: s2sreaI'm sorry, I just have to ask how old is your daughter. Is there a chance that she was mistaken or could have taken the priests words out of context? If what is said here is true, then it is very serious, not to mention objectively sinful on the part of the said priest. But I wouldn't go around spreading this information, if you don't mind, based on the hearsay of a young girl. Even a girl in her teens is capable of exaggerating (unconsciously) the words of a perceived threat to her parents for the sake of attention/ approval. I appreciate the OP's input, but I cannot in justice help wonder if there is a disconnect somewhere, though I do not blame the girl or the OP.
Hi s2rea,
When I got home late last night, I was able to post more information. It's on page 10. My daughter is 30 years old, raised in the faith, Catholic homeschooling, and has attended the SSPX since she was 14. Her fiancee is 43 years old. I really don't think they misunderstood, because we (myself and others) have had to endure Father's sermons for awhile now. Some of what he says is correct, but it's the way he delivers it. He is in need of prayers. I understand he's been a very good priest in the past.
What gets me, is that Father will not discuss the matter of the SSPX-Rome issue with us. He just attacks. Kyrie Eleison
Maybe I'm being judgemental because I don't know the people jnvolved, but this is ridiculous to me. The same arguments as to why people are not liking the SSPX here are the same arguments as to why I am dealing in real life with people not wanting to attend resistance Masses. I attend a resistance Mass, and heard criticism that this resistance priest will stop talking during a sermon and suggests that a child is taken out who makes noise. Here the posters were crying about the "novelty" of cryrooms. Now they are complaining about not liking a certain priests sermons etc.
The truth is you people are snobs in both camps who think you are better are smarter than our priests who sacrafice everything for your ingratitude. The way he delivers his sermon, my daughter doesn't like him. And then you have the audacity to get on here and say that a priest said something he did not, whether you corrected it later or not doesn't even matter. I think it was St. Dom Bosco who had a couple of gossipers do penance by walking through a town plucking the feathers off of a live chicken. Then when they saw him and they had finished he asked them to go and gather every single feather. When they said they could not he told them that is the same with repairing the damage done by their rumors. Who knows where the winds have carried them off to.
Speaking bluntly, these priest slandering gossiping women who are seeking to spread their rumors through the resistance are doing harm to both the resistance and the good priests who are in the SSPX. Snobs like this don't even have the faith in my opinion or if they did they would be more prudent about diffusing rumors about one of Christ's priest. Really though. These people are pieces of crap in my opinion. You want to talk about priests go talk about the Novus Ordo or someone who deserves to be criticized. But din't criticize a good priest just because your daughter doesn't like him because he is strick in terms of marriage or tough in the confessional or whatever prejudices someone might hold.
I agree with you, Centroamerica. I know Father Portugal well. I know Father Hewko well. I have known them since they were college and seminary students. In fact, I know many of the priests on both sides. They are good priests, holy priests. They mean well and are doing the best they can to navigate in a rough sea. There will be saints on both sides of this thing and it may well last until the Immaculate Heart triumphs and clears it all up. We have priests on both sides who don't have enough to eat, don't have a cassock that isn't worn thin, who suffer from depression, from loneliness for their loved ones and we, the so-called faithful, only add to it with our terrible ingratitude.
Why, in Heaven's name do we have to tear down priests just to justify our actions? We need to stop this right now and pray for them. We need to love them. They have left everything for us. None of us has done such an extreme thing for God or for each other. The SSPX priests are sons of Our Lady, just like the resistance priests are. She watches over them and she sees our disgusting and petty backbiting and criticisms. May God and His Holy Mother forgive us, myself included, for ever complaining about our good priests. Please, let us just pray for them!