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My daughter said the SSPX priest said at the sermon this morning, that those who go to the resistance Masses are going to hell.

Will get back with y'all later, because I have to travel to the resistance Mass this evening.  Bye and God Bless :furtive: :confused1: :scared2: :smile: :sad: :barf:

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Hi,
Just got back from Fr. Pfeiffer's Mass near New Orleans. It's mid-night, but thought I would tell you what Fr. Portugal said at Mass this morning. He said he wasn't going to give this type of sermon, but he had no choice because it had been brought to his attention. Father said people are always accusing the SSPX of hiding things and not giving the full story. But he noticed these accusers weren't at Mass this morning! It's funny how people have so much time to spend on the internet, believe cօռspιʀαcιҽs and gossip, when they should be going to Mass and receiving the sacraments, because priests like himself who spend 10 hours driving through ice to say Mass and only two people show up. (This was yesterday. Authorities had closed the roads and told everyone to stay home).
Father also explained all the things he does for us and here, some of us were going off to a Mass said by a rebellious priest. He said the SSPX is always being attacked by the novus ordo, the sedevacantists and others and now this! (conspiracy people) Father said that people wonder why there is a need for a second judgment, but he said it's a comforting thought to know there is one, because God will deal with these evil people!

After Mass, my daughter turned to her fiancee and said, " I can sum this whole sermon up in a sentence. The people going to Mass this evening, along with the priest are going to burn in hell and Father Portugal is going to be nominated for sainthood and going to heaven!"  :cheers:

This is not good for young adults. My daughter's fiancee is learning about the Catholic faith and has been going to Mass with her. This last incident has been a real turn-off for him. Both he and my daughter thought Father was uncharitable.

On a happier note, we had a nice little group of people for Mass this evening, but more were expected. Maybe Fr. Portugal scared them off? Fr. Pfeiffer gave an excellent sermon and gave us lots of information about the crisis in the SSPX.

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I'm sorry, I just have to ask how old is your daughter. Is there a chance that she was mistaken or could have taken the priests words out of context? If what is said here is true, then it is very serious, not  to mention objectively sinful on the part of the said priest. But I wouldn't go around spreading this information, if you don't mind, based on the hearsay of a young girl. Even a girl in her teens is capable of exaggerating (unconsciously) the words of a perceived threat to her parents for the sake of attention/ approval.  I appreciate the OP's input, but I cannot in justice help wonder if there is a disconnect somewhere, though I do not blame the girl or the OP.

Hi s2rea,
     When I got home late last night, I was able to post more information. It's on page 10. My daughter is 30 years old, raised in the faith, Catholic homeschooling, and has attended the SSPX since she was 14. Her fiancee is 43 years old. I really don't think they misunderstood, because we (myself and others) have had to endure Father's sermons for awhile now. Some of what he says is correct, but it's the way he delivers it. He is in need of prayers. I understand he's been a very good priest in the past.

What gets me, is that Father will not discuss the matter of the SSPX-Rome issue with us. He just attacks.      Kyrie Eleison

Maybe I'm being judgemental because I don't know the people jnvolved, but this is ridiculous to me. The same arguments as to why people are not liking the SSPX here are the same arguments as to why I am dealing in real life with people not wanting to attend resistance Masses. I attend a resistance Mass, and heard criticism that this resistance priest will stop talking during a sermon and suggests that a child is taken out who makes noise. Here the posters were crying about the "novelty" of cryrooms. Now they are complaining about not liking a certain priests sermons etc.

The truth is you people are snobs in both camps who think you are better are smarter than our priests who sacrafice everything for your ingratitude. The way he delivers his sermon, my daughter doesn't like him. And then you have the audacity to get on here and say that a priest said something he did not, whether you corrected it later or not doesn't even matter. I think it was St. Dom Bosco who had a couple of gossipers do penance by walking through a town plucking the feathers off of a live chicken. Then when they saw him and they had finished he asked them to go and gather every single feather. When they said they could not he told them that is the same with repairing the damage done by their rumors. Who knows where the winds have carried them off to.

Speaking bluntly, these priest slandering gossiping women who are seeking to spread their rumors through the resistance are doing harm to both the resistance and the good priests who are in the SSPX. Snobs like this don't even have the faith in my opinion or if they did they would be more prudent about diffusing rumors about one of Christ's priest. Really though. These people are pieces of crap in my opinion. You want to talk about priests go talk about the Novus Ordo or someone who deserves to be criticized. But din't criticize a good priest just because your daughter doesn't like him because he is strick in terms of marriage or tough in the confessional or whatever prejudices someone might hold.

I agree with you, Centroamerica. I know Father Portugal well. I know Father Hewko well. I have known them since they were college and seminary students. In fact, I know many of the priests on both sides. They are good priests, holy priests. They mean well and are doing the best they can to navigate in a rough sea. There will be saints on both sides of this thing and it may well last until the Immaculate Heart triumphs and clears it all up. We have priests on both sides who don't have enough to eat, don't have a cassock that isn't worn thin, who suffer from depression, from loneliness for their loved ones and we, the so-called faithful, only add to it with our terrible ingratitude.

Why, in Heaven's name do we have to tear down priests just to justify our actions? We need to stop this right now and pray for them. We need to love them. They have left everything for us. None of us has done such an extreme thing for God or for each other. The SSPX priests are sons of Our Lady, just like the resistance priests are. She watches over them and she sees our disgusting and petty backbiting and criticisms. May God and His Holy Mother forgive us, myself included, for ever complaining about our good priests. Please, let us just pray for them!