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Fr. Pfluger Responds Regarding Flavigny Conference Notes
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2014, 07:25:44 AM »
Don't be so quick to judge Sean, we don't know he isn't preparing to ask Father for clarification. And at least he did something to find the truth by approaching Fr. Phluger. I don't think Sean is wrong for criticizing the monk or author of the letter, we should not hide our identity when it comes to the truth. The monk should stand up for his claims because souls are in danger.

Fr. Pfluger Responds Regarding Flavigny Conference Notes
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2014, 07:50:17 AM »
After I received Fr. Pfluger's response, I emailed him the following message the next day:

Greetings Fr. Pfluger-
 
Thank you for your response.
 
I am relieved to hear that the words attributed to you do not accurately reflect your thoughts on these matters.
 
Unfortunately, I do not understand German.
 
But if you care to respond, and rebut the words/thoughts attributed to you in German, I could probably find someone to translate them into English.
 
Also, since I announced my reservations concerning the accuracy of the words attributed to you on a prominent Resistance website, and announced that I was attempting to contact you regarding their veracity or falsehood, do you give me permission to publish your response/denial on that website?
 
Finally, should you decide to respond, citing particular innacuracies in the words attributed to you, do you give me permission to publish that response as well?
 
Pax tecuм,
 
Sean Johnson
St. Paul, MN
USA
[2-7-14]




Fr. Pfluger Responds Regarding Flavigny Conference Notes
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2014, 07:55:45 AM »
i believe fr pfluger has quite good english actually.... perhaps he is being too modest... :dancing:

Fr. Pfluger Responds Regarding Flavigny Conference Notes
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2014, 08:56:31 AM »
Yes, Father speaks english; why his language came up as a defense is interesting. It would have been nice if the entire relevant correspondence was reported-- not just select pieces. This is typical spin control: " just give them what is absolutely necessary." It would be very educational to receive the transcript of the actual talk to the brothers , so the correctness of the initial report
could be measured, and we could avoid claims of hearsay and rumor. After all, what could Father possibly say to them that could not be widely known? For this we do thank Sean!

Fr. Pfluger Responds Regarding Flavigny Conference Notes
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2014, 09:47:42 AM »
Quote from: hugeman
Yes, Father speaks english; why his language came up as a defense is interesting. It would have been nice if the entire relevant correspondence was reported-- not just select pieces. This is typical spin control: " just give them what is absolutely necessary." It would be very educational to receive the transcript of the actual talk to the brothers , so the correctness of the initial report
could be measured, and we could avoid claims of hearsay and rumor. After all, what could Father possibly say to them that could not be widely known? For this we do thank Sean!


Look, it's very simple, by placing Fr. Phluger's word as being devoid of untruth over the word of the anonymous "brother" is basically saying that the brother is lying.  
And that I will not accept so rashly as I have no basis to place any malice in this brother's word.
It is typical modernist speak to always ask for proof, as if someone's word is not good enough.  
One deserves the dignity of having their word mean something unless that person has been found to be suspect otherwise.

As for Fr. Phluger, because of his previous actions, and the fact that he CAN SEE Vat2 in the light of Tradition, already tells me that the mind is poisoned and cannot see clearly objectively, thus, clarification by submitting to Sean a copy of the transcript of the conference is the only way to clarify things.  
Let him put it on paper and for all to see!
After all he is not a mere clerk in a bookshop - when he speaks he speaks with authority his current state affords him.  
Until then, the suspect word comes from Fr. Phluger.

As for "manning up" it should be Fr. Phluger who "mans" up and set's the record straight.  
That's what a real man would do!
Salvation of souls are at stake here!
The more they persist in their disobedient actions, and yes it is considered disobedience since they deny the blasphemies and sacrileges of VAt2 and accept the lawful authority these docuмents have over them, again they drive a nail into the Cross of Our Lord Jesus Christ!
For as Our Lady said in La Salette, it is the sins of those closest to Her Son - the Priest, the Clergy - that offend God the most.

Wake up people and let your priests know that they are offending God, and maybe they will have a chance to change and be saved.
Being silent yourselves holds you complicit.
It's like the wife of a mafioso denying having anything to do with her husband's "business", and yet allows herself to profit quite richly from it.
The attitude of "I won't say anything - just in case, I would not want to lose sacraments especially at the moment of death."
How many times I have heard that hogwash?
Remember, they have said it before, "go to the local pastor, their orders are valid, and so are their sacraments".