"53 And as he was saying these things to them, the Pharisees and the lawyers began violently to urge him, and to oppress his mouth about many things, 54 Lying in wait for him, and seeking to catch something from his mouth, that they might accuse him. "

  Last Sunday August 26 my wife and I were present for Father Joseph Pfeiffer's Mass and conference in Saint Mary's, KS. I wont reveal the details that led up to our finding out this was taking place and helping with it as it was an answer to prayer and a fast one too but something that if exposed to a public forum will be open for diabolical attacks but lets just say Our Lady answered our prayer quickly.

  Father's Mass was a little bit after 5:30 p.m. and it is shortly before then that the host of Saint Mary's "elite" walked in just about the same time. It was pretty obvious that they'd come to the hall in an organized way in order to prove Father wrong. Father's sermon was strong as he hit some sensitive spots that affect Saint Mary's such as selfishness and a certain ease and laxity in charity by the lack of seeking conversions out in the world that needs Christ so badly. He could have hit much harder but he hit good enough as he told me later he could feel the bad spirit in the room.

  After a 10 to 15 minute explanation on where the SSPX stands and the work he and father Chazal are doing he began to answer questions. The first question was about some letter he signed last year at his missionary site and the questioner tried to get him to admit that he had changed his mind since he signed that letter. What the letter was about I do not recall as the point was very weak. About 20 minutes later the same person asked the same question in a frustrating way as if this person was disappointed that Father hadn't condemned himself. Father simply answered "Nothings changed. Nothing."

  There were a lot of questions from a person (I am not naming names) actually numerous questions from a person who seemed to be lost in his own intelligence. He seemed to go in circles over and over again.

  If the academy sent anybody it might have been this one gentleman who seemed to have the vocabulary of a professor and the manners of a gentleman. However, his great "wisdom" failed to trap Father as he went after Father again and again. When Father emphasized that the Catholic Faith is above obedience this man asked in a pretend shock "FAITH, Father?? FAITH?" As if to suggest Father was falling into the Protestant heresy!!

  More than one of the elite rose their voices to let Father know how "disappointed and ashamed" they were of him. It was sad to see these people think Father would care what they thought and some how abandon the cause because of it. What elevated pride!

  The biggest hypocrasy came in a series of Q & A that took about 5 minutes. The elite let Father know how ashamed they were of Father for condemning the Rosary Crusade. How could Father condemn so many rosaries? No. He was condemning the Rosary Crusade itself not the Rosary. They let Father know how "outraged" they were! Then a most shocking thing. Only 2 maybe as many as 4 minutes later Father was refering to Our Lady being the answer to the crisis in the Church and he mentioned the apparitions of Fatima and La Sallette. The elite had the nerve to say "That's not dogma, Father."  Unbelievable hypocrasy. One minute they are all for our Lady and the next they slap her in the face by refusing to believe what she has come to tell her FAITHFUL children. If I had any doubts the devil was in the room they were gone with that turn of events.

  And so it went on for quite a while. 3 1/2 hours including the Mass. Father and my wife and I and several other people pointed out how disappointing it was that their questions lacked any substance. I think if you asked him Father would say he wishes he hadn't spent so much time going in circles.

  Now, there will be some criticisms of this story but let me say this one thing we have noticed. There is definitely a growing hatred on the other side. Both in person and on forums. The hate has had enough of being subtle. As Bishop Williamson said this week:"Fortify your homes" That is where we must now retreat to now and await that awesome day our Lady conqueors her/our enemies. May that blessed day come soon!

  God speed.

Yes, let's stick our heads in the sand and wait for Our Lady to come. Sounds great I say !

What a moronic comment.

For supposedly devout Catholics to sneer at the message of Fatima and La Salette is gravely impious for so-called Trads, but it's not at all surprising for Opus Fellay cult members.

This mentality reminds me of the people that St. Paul warned against in the book of Thessalonians those who wanted to simply wait for the Anti-Christ and the end of the world.

That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.  Catholics believe in the Apocalypse.  IF you don't, you probably aren't a Catholic.  I see no indication at all, however, that Father Pfeiffer said we need to wait for the Apocalypse.

Some things never change.

Modernists and their apologists don't change.  If a Catholic brings up Marian apparition, they have nothing but scorn for that person.

I would like to clarify a bit sspxbvm’s account of the Q and A that took place after Father Pfeiffer’s Mass.  SSPXBVM states:  “Then a most shocking thing. Only 2 maybe as many as 4 minutes later Father was refering to Our Lady being the answer to the crisis in the Church and he mentioned the apparitions of Fatima and La Sallette. The elite had the nerve to say "That's not dogma, Father." Unbelievable hypocrasy. One minute they are all for our Lady and the next they slap her in the face by refusing to believe what she has come to tell her FAITHFUL children. If I had any doubts the devil was in the room they were gone with that turn of events.”  

I was the one who stated “That is not a dogma of the faith though.”  The context was this:  Father had mentioned that, whereas Bishop de Gallereta disagreed with Bishop Fellay with regards to his approach with Rome, he considered it a difference of opinion on a practical matter while Bishop Tissier, Bishop Williamson and himself considered it to be a theological matter and a question of the doctrine of the faith.  My question to Father was, “What dogma or doctrine of the faith do you consider to be at issue?”  He spoke of modernism and the crises in the Church and the fact that the crises will be averted when the Pope converts and that this will happen by the “direct, immediate, and miraculous intervention of Mary.”  It will not happen, he said, through human administration.  

It was at this point that I said, “That is not a dogma of the faith though.”  My point was not that we need not believe or pay any credence to the apparitions of Mary, not at all.  My point was that there are various views on how the crises in the Church will find itself resolved through Mary’s intercession.  It is not a doctrine of the faith that Mary will one day immediately and miraculously convert the Pope such that he stands up the next day and proclaims that he has been a heretic for all these years and that Vatican II was a heretical council, etc.  There are some who think that the crises of the faith will be resolved through God and Mary, Mediatrix of All Grace, using human instruments and that the SSPX can best play its part at this time through a regularized situation.  One may certainly disagree with that position as well, but it would be somewhat rash, I think, to claim that one knows the mind of God to such a degree that he knows exactly how the crises will find itself worked out.  Perhaps the Bark of Peter will turn on a dime with the Pope being struck with a most powerful  and sudden grace but perhaps it may turn more slowly and perhaps now is the time to take up the fight according to a bit different tack, i.e. as a regularized society, perhaps not, God knows.  
I hope that that clarifies the intent of my statement.  

Also, though I am not the person who sspxbvm refers to when he spoke of the person who asked a lot of questions (I only asked one question), I think that it is safe to say that neither he nor anyone else was sent by the academy.  I teach at St. Marys College and I do not know the gentleman in question and I certainly was not made aware of the College or Academy wanting to send people to Father’s Q and A session.  

God Bless,

Todd Konkel

PS  I would also suggest that you read (or reread) all of ABL's books.  He explains most beautifully why the SSPX must remain apart from Concilliar Rome until that time She converts to Eternal Rome.

Dear Mr. Konkel,

I suggest that you begin reading the four volumes of, THE WHOLE TRUTH ABOUT FATIMA, by Frere Michel de la Sainte Trinite.  The truth therein was confirmed by the Miracle of the Sun which was witnessed by more that 70,000 people on 13 October, 1917.   Our Lady of Fatima revealed the Mind of God and His desire for the Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary in order to crush this unprecedented crisis of apostasy (which she most accurately predicted).  

It was Our Lady who revealed that only she can help us.  She requested that all of her children do their part by daily praying the rosary, wearing the brown scapular, and being faithful to their duties of state.  She promised us that though it will be very late, in the end, the Pope will consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary which will miraculously effect that poor nation's conversion and usher in a period of peace.

God Bless you too, Mr. Konkel.

Domitilla,

No one here (certainly not Mr. Konkel) is disputing the truth of Fatima.  But the fact remains that it is still a private revelation, even if 70,000 people witnessed the miracle of the sun (and I believe they did).  As a private revelation, it is outside the deposit of faith, it is not a dogma.  

As a private revelation, it is outside the deposit of faith, it is not a dogma.

Fr. Nicolas Gruner of the Fatima Center has written and spoken about Fatima being more than just a private revelation.  He said it is something like a public-private revelation, which obliges us to action.  I can't remember the meat of the argument, but I remember he built a strong case.

Neil Obstat and Domitilla have it right.

"the time for doubting Fatima is past." -Pope Pius XII

Neil Obstat and Domitilla have it right.

Quote

"the time for doubting Fatima is past." -Pope Pius XII

It was good of Kunkel to clarify his standing.