Author Topic: Fr. Pfeiffers cult nonsense not welcome here - including Greg Taylor (Read 7312 times)

TheRealMcCoy · « **Reply #10 on:** May 30, 2016, 06:16:18 AM »

So let me see if I understand...I need to declare myself by selecting one of the following:

a) +Fellay

b) +Williamson

c) Pfeiffer

d) Sanborn

e) The Pope in Hiding

Have I left any "traditionalist" leader out? Thanks but no thanks. I will remain Catholic, strive to grow in Faith and Virtue, take valid sacraments where I can from those who are not morally corrupt.

(And in regards to the boxing match between +W and Pfeiffer it's rather obvious who "floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee". I put my paltry sum on the bishop, liberal or not).

Matthew · « **Reply #11 on:** May 30, 2016, 07:39:36 AM »

Quote from: Wessex

If this is a crisis ..... I see it as an opportunity ..... we at least can get back to basics and attempt to shed the religious dross of centuries. Hotel rooms can put a different perspective on things!

Are you an anti-clerical, an iconoclast (statue smasher), a protestant, or what?

Your words, far from resonating with me or ringing true, instead shock and horrify me.

"religious dross of centuries"?

St. Pius X never mentioned any religious dross that needed to be shed. If the Crisis has lasted centuries as you claim, then St. Pius X was alive during it, and he (a saintly pope) certainly should have addressed the "Church triumphalism" and various accretions that you deplore!

I guess you want to go back to a simpler form of Christianity, like in the first few centuries?

Peccator Marison · « **Reply #12 on:** May 30, 2016, 08:57:50 AM »

Quote from: Wessex

Quote from: NatusAdMaiora

You are entitled to your opinion, however, but neither you nor Grey Taylor have the moral authority to spread and write hatred towards Bishops and some Priests of the ‘Resistance’. It is unacceptable to show disrespect to Clergy just because you do not fully agree with all that they say.

We have to speak as we find. Bishops and priests today no longer have that automatic right to be believed and followed. In fact, they need to prove themselves; pious words alone are not enough to allay the suspicions of a badly let down laity.

In the absence of bishops and priests that are off on their own 'trips', we rely on what few resources we have. If this is a crisis ..... I see it as an opportunity ..... we at least can get back to basics and attempt to shed the religious dross of centuries. Hotel rooms can put a different perspective on things!

This is poison -- utter nonsense. The so-called dross is the Faith, for there never was a lot of Protestant ''basics'' as the Modernists lie -- the Church, storied in ritual and splendour, has always been so and she grows rather more splendid, more majestic, more filled with physical beauty as the centuries pass -- never changing, always the same, but given new Saints and new private Revelations and new basilicae.

Please do not imagine I find questioning the judgement of a Prince of the Church anything more or less than torture.

Wessex · « **Reply #13 on:** June 01, 2016, 05:47:13 AM »

Quote from: Matthew

Quote from: Wessex

If this is a crisis ..... I see it as an opportunity ..... we at least can get back to basics and attempt to shed the religious dross of centuries. Hotel rooms can put a different perspective on things!

Are you an anti-clerical, an iconoclast (statue smasher), a protestant, or what?

Your words, far from resonating with me or ringing true, instead shock and horrify me.

"religious dross of centuries"?

St. Pius X never mentioned any religious dross that needed to be shed. If the Crisis has lasted centuries as you claim, then St. Pius X was alive during it, and he (a saintly pope) certainly should have addressed the "Church triumphalism" and various accretions that you deplore!

I guess you want to go back to a simpler form of Christianity, like in the first few centuries?

I am here in danger of echoing some of the sentiments of Bp. Williamson! He is prominent in pointing out the artificial world of 50s Catholicism and its stark contradictions. My parents were certainly living these contradictions to the point of having one set of beliefs on Sunday and another set on other days. I was growing up thinking that the Church on the surface merely proposed an ideal way of life which could never be achieved nor needed to. Confession was becoming a convenient gateway linking both worlds.

I would opt for the triumph of simplicity where a crisis wonderfully concentrates the mind on what is most important and easily discards what is not. Again, we are told we are living in remarkable times which is forcing us to concentrate on the basics. And moving away from structures and titles may be part of the bishop's thinking where top-heavy institutions steal the limelight from the faith. I could be talking of an English approach where we are less inclined to go overboard when it comes to expression ..... unlike our continental and American cousins!

TheRealMcCoy · « **Reply #14 on:** June 01, 2016, 07:18:22 AM »

Quote from: Wessex

I could be talking of an English approach where we are less inclined to go overboard when it comes to expression ..... unlike our continental and American cousins!

Wow you could be a great role model for English silence.