Author Topic: Fr. Pfeiffers cult nonsense not welcome here - including Greg Taylor (Read 7474 times)

Wessex · « **Reply #5 on:** May 29, 2016, 06:11:47 AM »

Again, people in glass houses should not throw stones.

The direction Bp. Williamson and his entourage are pursuing ostensibly in the name of tradition is only one way. I remember saying the same thing about ABL in the 80s although experienced old hands tell me he was pursuing many directions at the same time!
Personalising movements runs the risk of being tied to the caprices and quirks of its leaders but I am sure there are many wise heads that refuse to get attached to personalities and accept their services within limits. Being somewhat detached pays off in the end.

If the scene in the UK is representative of affairs both the SSPX and Bp. W are leaving the faithful in a state of confusion. I, like Gregory Taylor, counsel them to rely on neither and await some improvement. The bishop gives precious little thought to his own kind because he is refused the adulation he receives elsewhere. Shepherdless, we soldier on without too much drama.

NatusAdMaiora · « **Reply #6 on:** May 29, 2016, 11:34:04 AM »

Quote from: Wessex

Again, people in glass houses should not throw stones.

The direction Bp. Williamson and his entourage are pursuing ostensibly in the name of tradition is only one way. I remember saying the same thing about ABL in the 80s although experienced old hands tell me he was pursuing many directions at the same time!
Personalising movements runs the risk of being tied to the caprices and quirks of its leaders but I am sure there are many wise heads that refuse to get attached to personalities and accept their services within limits. Being somewhat detached pays off in the end.

If the scene in the UK is representative of affairs both the SSPX and Bp. W are leaving the faithful in a state of confusion. I, like Gregory Taylor, counsel them to rely on neither and await some improvement. The bishop gives precious little thought to his own kind because he is refused the adulation he receives elsewhere. Shepherdless, we soldier on without too much drama.

Christian Charity demands some principles ….

Quote from AD BEATISSIMI APOSTOLORUM ENCYCLICAL OF POPE BENEDICT XV -- APPEALING FOR PEACE
“As regards matters in which without harm to faith or Morals in the absence of any authoritative intervention of the Apostolic See - there is room for divergent opinions, it is clearly the right of everyone to express and defend his own opinion. But in such discussions no expressions should be used which might constitute serious breaches of charity; let each one freely defend his own opinion, but let it be done with due moderation, so that no one should consider himself entitled to affix on those who merely do not agree with his ideas the stigma of disloyalty to faith or to Morals”.

Link.. http://w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xv/en/encyclicals/docuмents/hf_ben-xv_enc_01111914_ad-beatissimi-apostolorum.html

You are entitled to your opinion, however, but neither you nor Grey Taylor have the moral authority to spread and write hatred towards Bishops and some Priests of the ‘Resistance’. It is unacceptable to show disrespect to Clergy just because you do not fully agree with all that they say.

Raphaela · « **Reply #7 on:** May 29, 2016, 02:26:32 PM »

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If the scene in the UK is representative of affairs both the SSPX and Bp. W are leaving the faithful in a state of confusion.

I haven't noticed anyone causing confusion in the UK except Gregory Taylor and a small number of eccentric sedes.

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I, like Gregory Taylor, counsel them to rely on neither [the SSPX and Bp. W.] and await some improvement.

So Wessex admits he is adding to the confusion and working against Bishop Williamson.

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The bishop gives precious little thought to his own kind because he is refused the adulation he receives elsewhere.

What a load of rubbish. Is this an example of the sort of 'counsel' Wessex gives?

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Shepherdless, we soldier on without too much drama.

We don't regard ourselves as 'shepherdless', Wessex. BTW do you attend any Resistance Masses?

cebu · « **Reply #8 on:** May 29, 2016, 02:49:05 PM »

Rapha

Wessex is a grumpy ole, cynical home-aloner who is full of his own importance and looks down on everyone else.

Wessex · « **Reply #9 on:** May 30, 2016, 05:45:50 AM »

Quote from: NatusAdMaiora

You are entitled to your opinion, however, but neither you nor Grey Taylor have the moral authority to spread and write hatred towards Bishops and some Priests of the ‘Resistance’. It is unacceptable to show disrespect to Clergy just because you do not fully agree with all that they say.

We have to speak as we find. Bishops and priests today no longer have that automatic right to be believed and followed. In fact, they need to prove themselves; pious words alone are not enough to allay the suspicions of a badly let down laity.

In the absence of bishops and priests that are off on their own 'trips', we rely on what few resources we have. If this is a crisis ..... I see it as an opportunity ..... we at least can get back to basics and attempt to shed the religious dross of centuries. Hotel rooms can put a different perspective on things!