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Author Topic: Fr. Pfeiffer supports fr. Urrutigoity -- yep  (Read 7823 times)

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Re: Fr. Pfeiffer supports fr. Urrutigoity -- yep
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2018, 01:15:44 PM »
  Even if their sinful INCLINATIONS and temptations to sin never go away, they could still get to the point of regretting their actions and having sincere contrition and at least FIGHTING their sinful condition.
Fine by me, so long as the pervs are fighting it from an isolated island surrounded by sharks.

Re: Fr. Pfeiffer supports fr. Urrutigoity -- yep
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2018, 04:12:10 PM »
There are lots of people in habitual sin.  So, are sins of thought now worthy of the death penalty?  In that case, you could safely execute 95% of the earth's population.  You can't make decisions about capital punishment based on considerations like stopping them from reaching a deeper place in hell.  That's up to God.  God could strike them down whenever He chooses.  And, if He doesn't, maybe it's because He feels the person does in fact deserve a greater eternal punishment.  We are not in a position to make those kinds of decisions.  Using criteria like that to argue for capital punishment opens up a nightmarish can of worms.  Why can't I take it upon myself, then, to execute my neighbor who's a chronic blasphemer or adulterer?  Ah, he's never going to change, so let's just execute him.  But, you know what, people CAN change?  Or do you not believe in the power of God's grace?  Even the most hardened sinner can be converted.  Even if their sinful INCLINATIONS and temptations to sin never go away, they could still get to the point of regretting their actions and having sincere contrition and at least FIGHTING their sinful condition.
Who's child are you gambling with then you say "or don't you believe in God's grace?"  Habitual blaspheming is not equitable to habitual molestation. While I acknowledge that people can and do change, the severity of these accusations, repeated patterns of behavior, and growing number of stories cry for action.  As a father, I can not and will not allow this as a possibility of happening.  While you can't base capital punishment ideals on preventing a deeper decent into hell, you sure as hell can execute them to prevent exposing any additional son or daughter to life alter scandal and future sins.


Re: Fr. Pfeiffer supports fr. Urrutigoity -- yep
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2018, 12:26:03 AM »
Who's child are you gambling with then you say "or don't you believe in God's grace?"  Habitual blaspheming is not equitable to habitual molestation. While I acknowledge that people can and do change, the severity of these accusations, repeated patterns of behavior, and growing number of stories cry for action.  As a father, I can not and will not allow this as a possibility of happening.  While you can't base capital punishment ideals on preventing a deeper decent into hell, you sure as hell can execute them to prevent exposing any additional son or daughter to life alter scandal and future sins.
I agree with you, RoughAshlar. Non of you may know anyone who has been through these things, but I do. And these events destroy them inside and out. They leave the Church, and others (or the same in question) attempt ѕυιcιdє. It's horrendous.
   One must think of the common good of the whole group, whether it be of animals or people. When you have a flock of chickens (or sheep, as the Bible is wont to call us) you put down (kill) the exceedingly diseased so as not to contaminate the rest. This is what must be done to those who molest others in such a way. They are exceedingly ill, and to protect the rest of the flock they MUST be "culled". Dangers to society must be terminated. 

Re: Fr. Pfeiffer supports fr. Urrutigoity -- yep
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2018, 09:01:44 AM »
For the record, we just spoke to Fr. Pfeiffer a few hours ago, in person, and he does not think this about Fr. Urrutigoity.

Your statements are false.

Good luck picking up all the feathers you spread.

A woman once went for confession, accusing herself badmouthing people. The confessor, a wise old man,  listened lovingly, absolved her and gave her a strange penance. He told her to go home, get a hen and come back, plucking the bird’s feathers as she walked along the street.

When she had returned to him he said: “Now go back home and, as you go, pick up each feather that you plucked on the way.” The woman told him that it would be impossible since the wind had almost certainly blown them away in the meantime.

And the confessor told her “You see, just as it is impossible to pick up the feathers once the wind has scattered them, it is likewise impossible to gather gossip and calumnies back up once they have come out of our mouth.”
Fr. Pfeiffer lies, as it benefits him.

Many of you can attest to this.

Re: Fr. Pfeiffer supports fr. Urrutigoity -- yep
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2018, 06:14:23 PM »
True Catholics don't speak like this.

"Wherefore by their fruits you shall know them." (Matthew 7:20)
True Catholics speak Truth.
Many here on cathinfo can attest to fr. Pfeiffer lies.  
I suggest you apply your same quote to fr. Pfeiffer.
What are the fruits of his last 5 years of work?  Pablo, no bishop, pervert aquaintenances (priests and laicised priests), divorcee secretary, vulgar sermons,  not one seminarian that has been there from the start, 3-4 day class schedule, all level of seminarians in the same classes, failing grades, poor record keeping, and the list goes on.
Fr. Pfeiffer claims "we have the Faith", but what he doesn't have is the Catholic Faith.  For without the constitution of the Faith, you have Protestantism.  The constitution of the Faith demands a proper hierarchy.