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Offline magdalena

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Fr. Pfeiffer please address this question: Is the Conciliar Church Catholic
« Reply #45 on: January 28, 2013, 05:34:58 PM »
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  • I, for one, miss him.

     :thinking:

    Now who's going to play the devil's advocate?  

     :devil2:
    But one thing is necessary. Mary hath chosen the best part, which shall not be taken away from her.
    Luke 10:42

    Offline MaterDominici

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    « Reply #46 on: January 28, 2013, 06:15:54 PM »
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  • Quote from: magdalena
    I, for one, miss him.

     :thinking:



    I suspect if he'd speak in a more straightforward manner, his posts would be better received. I tried to understand what his thoughts were often without much success.

    Perhaps if you understood him better than I did, you can explain to me what he was hoping to achieve with this thread.


    Offline Domitilla

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    « Reply #47 on: January 28, 2013, 06:17:01 PM »
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  • Curioustrad, please continue to check in every now and then.  Your pointed questions forces one to ponder, which is always a good thing!

    Offline Sigismund

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    « Reply #48 on: January 28, 2013, 06:24:18 PM »
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  • It seems to me that Bishop Williamson's foundation for consecrations, if he performs any, will be exactly the same as Archbishop's Lefersvre's, and for exactly the same reasons.  if you think the Archbishop's were valid, then it seems to me that you would think Bishop Williamson's would be as well.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #49 on: January 28, 2013, 07:04:03 PM »
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  • Quote from: MaterDominici
    Quote from: magdalena
    I, for one, miss him.

     :thinking:



    I suspect if he'd speak in a more straightforward manner, his posts would be better received. I tried to understand what his thoughts were often without much success.

    Perhaps if you understood him better than I did, you can explain to me what he was hoping to achieve with this thread.


    Yes, he's a bit abrasive at times. I think, perhaps, he feels we're moving too quickly without enough thought for what may come of it.  
    But one thing is necessary. Mary hath chosen the best part, which shall not be taken away from her.
    Luke 10:42


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    « Reply #50 on: January 28, 2013, 07:17:36 PM »
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  • Quote from: Sigismund
    It seems to me that Bishop Williamson's foundation for consecrations, if he performs any, will be exactly the same as Archbishop's Lefersvre's, and for exactly the same reasons.  if you think the Archbishop's were valid, then it seems to me that you would think Bishop Williamson's would be as well.


    Which decision would be entirely Bishop Williamson's or +Tissier de Mallerais' or +Alfonso de Galarreta's.  Each for himself.  Any one of the three will do, if and when they decide to do so.  

     :incense: :incense: :incense:
    But one thing is necessary. Mary hath chosen the best part, which shall not be taken away from her.
    Luke 10:42

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    « Reply #51 on: January 28, 2013, 08:16:43 PM »
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  • I am sorry, but you have lost me.  What decision are your talking about?
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #52 on: January 28, 2013, 08:36:22 PM »
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  • Quote from: Sigismund
    I am sorry, but you have lost me.  What decision are your talking about?


    The decision to consecrate a new bishop.  The decision should come from +Williamson (or +Mallerais or +Galarreta), and not be done under pressure.  We need to trust them and Our Lady.   And yes, you are right.  It would then, and should be for the same reason as did ++ABL.  
    But one thing is necessary. Mary hath chosen the best part, which shall not be taken away from her.
    Luke 10:42


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    « Reply #53 on: January 28, 2013, 10:32:18 PM »
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  • Archbishop Lefebvre said it Very Clearly:

      "Cardinal Ratzinger is not Catholic!" "He--Cardinal Ratzinger--is for the destruction of Christianity!; we are for the building of Christianity!"

      Bishop Tissier de Mallerais, after the conclusion of the so-called "doctrinal discussions', at which he represented the SSPX, stated: "There can be no agreement-- THEY (Rome) do not have the faith!"

       In 1993,Bishop Bernard Fellay stated "there are four lodges of the Masonic Order operating in the Vatican."

      Now-- Ratzinger has not converted. nobody of note in Rome has adopted the Roman Catholic faith, and the masons have not left. Their power and influence has become more entrenched and has grown. From at least Angelo Roncalli,who they "installed" as "John xxiii", to the communist Montini, who they "installed" as "Paul vi", they have had absolute control over the Vatican.

       The introduction into the Catholic priesthood of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs and sodomites was deliberate and planned, specifically to get atheists and communists into the Church to destroy it. This they have done. They are master strategists. They know their game well--very well. Nobody that plays with them escapes their clutches. You either become a sodomite along with them, or they compromise you  in other ways ( women, money, etc).
         All the outward smiles, the "traditional' trappings, the "desire" for a return to tradition, are mere tools in the tool box to trick gullible faithful. The clown Masses, the naked-men masses, the females on the altars, the black masses in the Vatican, the never-ending sodomizing of young children, the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ lifestyles (robbing the parishes of millions to support "boyfriends" , lavish condos,push drugs, and fancy dresses)-- this is, unfortunately, the conciliar church--which parades around with the name "Roman Catholic."

        Of course they do not have the Catholic Faith. Hence they cannot be Catholic.
        www.sossaveoursspx.com

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    « Reply #54 on: January 28, 2013, 11:03:14 PM »
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  • Quote from: InDominoSperavi
    Abp Lefebvre and Fr Pfeiffer say the same thing : the conciliar church hasn't a catholic doctrine and has not a catholic cult. But the pope is the pope. It is a mystery of iniquity. Listen to Fr Pfeiffer's sermons and you have all your answers.
    Bp Tissier de Mallerais made a very powerful sermon in french about that subject :
    http://aveclimmaculee.blogspot.fr/2013/01/un-sermon-extraordinaire-mgr-tissier-de.html


    Of course the dear Father is saying the same things as Archbishop Lefebvre but is he saying them with the same finesse ? I think it would be prudent to wait to see what Bishop Fellay's mob end up doing before jumping the gun and rushing ahead.

    Right now Bishop Williamson enjoys a lot of clout inside the SSPX as does Bishop Tissier de Mallerais. The two bishops have a great esteem for one another. Intellectually Bp. T. de M. is in lockstep with Bp. W but psychologically he's different.

    Who ever said the SSPX needs to be recreated form the ground up ? Let the evident sell out of Bp. Fellay work on Bp. T. de M. and he may well surprise us all.

    Bishop Williamson does much good by his "softly, softly" approach rather than consecrating Bishops immediately let Bp. Fellay hang himself - he's bound to in the end and all those in favor of a deal will get their come-uppance.

    The Society will itself need a leader and one it had shunned previously (and this thinking may well explain why we see Bp. Williamson keeping his options WISELY OPEN).

    I think there is quite a bit of one English historical figure in Bp. W. and time will tell what he will do when the SSPX turns to him again and asks him to lead them all out of the mess. Read your immediate pre-World War II history of England and what happened between Chamberlain and Churchill.

    Bishop Williamson thinks quite highly of Churchill and not without reason - he saved his country in her hour of need (with a little help from the former 13 colonies of course)

    History takes crazy turns and, after all the Lord God is the Lord of Human History after all !

    Thanks to all of you who were kind enough to coax me back again.
    Please pray for my soul.
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    « Reply #55 on: January 28, 2013, 11:10:23 PM »
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    Bishop Williamson thinks quite highly of Churchill


    Does he really?

    Bishop Fellay has the SSPX structure locked down securely.

    The very idea that Bishop Williamson will be allowed back in some sort of position of authority is very far-fetched.

    I hope someone with some actuarial knowledge is helping him to determine how much longer he can wisely wait.


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    « Reply #56 on: January 28, 2013, 11:12:45 PM »
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  • Welcome back, ct.

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    « Reply #57 on: January 28, 2013, 11:42:20 PM »
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    Welcome back, ct.


    I second that and I also look forward to the return of Lepanto Again!

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    « Reply #58 on: January 28, 2013, 11:51:36 PM »
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  • Quote from: curioustrad
    I think it would be prudent to wait to see what Bishop Fellay's mob end up doing before jumping the gun and rushing ahead.



    Do you think what Frs. Pfeiffer and Hewko are doing now is too much / too soon, or are you only referring to the rumored consecration(s)?

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    « Reply #59 on: January 29, 2013, 05:20:57 AM »
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  • Quote from: MaterDominici
    Welcome back, ct.
     

    I'll second that too.
    But one thing is necessary. Mary hath chosen the best part, which shall not be taken away from her.
    Luke 10:42