Author Topic: Fr. Pfeiffer mentions a Fr. Tetherow - who? (Read 124892 times)

TheRealMcCoy · « **Reply #285 on:** April 23, 2016, 11:32:38 AM »

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Perhaps she was just an R rated star?

Sadly, no. A quick read of headlines showed she was (just before her death) involved in a high-profile rape case against a fellow porn star. I know, try not to laugh - I'm not sure how rape and fellow porn star co-workers go together exactly, *cough*.

Sorry, inside joke regarding calling pornography "R rated". It's an OLMC thing.

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #286 on:** May 12, 2016, 10:56:32 AM »

the grand master,

Your style of writing and vocabulary is so like John Modler that I might think that you are one and the same character. "Grand Master" is a Masonic title. Did it come to you as a momentary inspiration or is it the result of dedicated study? Since you accuse others of "hiding behind false names" you should not object to publishing your own.

The person you are defending is a convicted felon on child pornography related charges who confessed his guilt of the crime to both civil and Church authorities. That is a "fact." With friends like you, Mr. Tetherow has nothing to worry about from his enemies.

But just for the record, produce some evidence to your claim that "Tetherow has challenged Drew (for) years in a(n) open forum (to) debate - and drew (sic) and his wife never show up." Obviously, an "open debate" requires docuмentary evidence. For example, my husband has challenged the diocese of hαɾɾιsburg to an open debate regarding the doctrinal, liturgical, moral and canonical claims of Ss. Peter & Paul Roman Catholic Mission for more than 14 years and the letters docuмenting this open challenge are published on the Mission web page.

When you produce your evidence we can continue this discussion.

the grand master · « **Reply #287 on:** May 12, 2016, 02:52:29 PM »

People are stupid-No this is not John Modler-and I will say-John Modler is not a defender of Fr. Gabriel Tetherow-Drew has his way and style of exposing Tetherow and J Modler has his own. John Modler was fooledby tetherow and Modler is like a shock jock- he sends out satire-crazy emails mentioning tetherow all over the place-this makes tetherow look stupid and gets people to react and also to look more at tetherow so they see hom for what he is and stop supporting him-he only has 2 small churches. drew and modler are actually trying to accomplish the same thing-they both have different tactics. Dr. drew is the investigator and Bill o'rielly way and Modler is like Howard stern. both are effective.

Croixalist · « **Reply #288 on:** May 12, 2016, 06:44:20 PM »

First I gotta say, that is one garbled paragraph. Secondly, one church is too many for Teethrow. Thirdly, I don't like cult members.

Got your first post deleted huh? You aren't long for this forum.

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #289 on:** May 12, 2016, 07:49:52 PM »

Matthew,

My husband and I don't mind the insults of "the grand master." His accusations can be easily verified or refuted by anyone who is interested in examining the matter. The "grand master" did not make up these charges but almost certainly received them from Mr. Tetherow. We think his deleted posts are actually helpful for others to understand the kind of influence Mr. Tetherow, as a cult leader, exercises upon his followers.

A cult is characterized by the personality of the leader and never on fixed principles. It may use principles at times when they are useful but when they no longer serve a purpose they are simply discarded. This is exactly how Mr. Tetherow operates and many specific example can be offered. But a mind that is grounded upon a human personality is no more stable than that personality. It is a disturbing revelation to see traditional Catholics dissolved from being defenders of the faith to becoming cult members.

On the other hand, the Catholic faithful only venerate personality in the context of its heroic steadfastness to the unchanging truths of our faith. To find a cult leader within traditional Catholicism who turns Catholics from devotion to the faith to devotion to himself should make everyone reflect on how serious this problem is.

This is an open forum and perhaps Mr.Tetherow can be induced to come forward and defend himself. But that is not likely to happen. Psychopaths (sociopaths) exercise their influence by direct contact. They almost always avoid written records of their dealings.

Matthew · « **Reply #290 on:** May 12, 2016, 08:32:15 PM »

I measured "the grand master" and found him wanting. Wanting in sanity, Catholic decency, and any degree of love of truth. His accusations were nonsensical and random -- complete garbage on my forum.

I know people like to throw around the term "cesspool" like it's nothing -- many people who choose to hang out on another forum will frequently call CathInfo various names, including "cesspool". But I defy them to point to any post that is "filth", "garbage", or "wretched sin" -- in other words, the "crap" that makes CathInfo a virtual "cesspool".

Fisheaters has been called this in the past, and for good reason. The moderator insists that transsɛҳuąƖs be respected in their gender bending, various worldly amusements are promoted, scandals are given (2 divorced Trad Catholics living together while only civilly married). THAT is a cesspool.

But how often do we routinely name call other forums on here? (Besides Fisheaters, which indeed has serious issues.) I certainly don't encourage it. But it goes beyond "hey, it's not me...it's my members!" because even my members don't do it.

Of course, these CathInfo slanderers don't have any reasons. It's completely a team game for them. CathInfo is Coke; they prefer Pepsi. But I don't ever want there to be a concrete reason for that epithet to be used against my forum.

When I see garbage, I delete it. Period. When I see a post that is sinful in itself, I delete it.

cloisters1963 · « **Reply #291 on:** May 17, 2016, 11:46:31 AM »

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Fr. Relyea was not and is not and never will be associated with Tetherow.

This is the "eccentric woman" behind those websites. Those two initiatives are now part of our emerging charity charism, and Modler is not a part of it. Out of charity, I ask your prayers for him, as he does have issues. We do not have any brick-and-mortar institutes. The formation at the present moment is entirely online, and will stay that way for the foreseeable future, with the members working locally in their apostolates.

The St. Lazarus Raised initiative is a simple webpage with coma resources, and prayer for the comatose. The Holy Innocents' Karen Lhotka will begin her "seminary" formation in November with a co-founder. This formation will take two years, with the intention of producing a society of apostolic life.

Anyone with inquiries can email me at conewfoundations@lycos.com

Blessings,
Cloisters1963

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #292 on:** May 17, 2016, 01:29:43 PM »

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This is the "eccentric woman" behind those websites. Those two initiatives are now part of our emerging charity charism, and Modler is not a part of it. Out of charity, I ask your prayers for him, as he does have issues. We do not have any brick-and-mortar institutes. The formation at the present moment is entirely online, and will stay that way for the foreseeable future, with the members working locally in their apostolates.

The St. Lazarus Raised initiative is a simple webpage with coma resources, and prayer for the comatose. The Holy Innocents' Karen Lhotka will begin her "seminary" formation in November with a co-founder. This formation will take two years, with the intention of producing a society of apostolic life.

Anyone with inquiries can email me at conewfoundations@lycos.com

Blessings,
Cloisters1963

Is Virgil (Gabriel) Tetherow in any way, directly or indirectly, associated with your community?

cloisters1963 · « **Reply #293 on:** May 17, 2016, 01:34:47 PM »

Tetherow is not associated with our initiatives.

Blessings,
Cloisters1963

onewhoknows · « **Reply #294 on:** May 18, 2016, 06:57:18 AM »

2- Second woman used by Tetherow:

This one, a friend of ours for many years, had undergone a “minor exorcism” by Tetherow and developed a psychotic episode lasting several weeks that she attributed to a single dosage of an antibiotic medication. This woman and her family had moved to NH to live near her sister and away from Tetherow. While her husband was gone on business, Tetherow drove to her home in NH and twisted her arm to come back to PA. They were back in about two months or so and she has not spoken to her sister since because of their disagreement about Tetherow.

At the time Tetherow was dismissed from SSP&P, the two older boys of this family where teenagers and one of them, was particularly pious and "wanted to be a priest". Both of these boys have lost the faith. One is now a heroin addict, three times in and out of rehab. The other is cohabitating with a girlfriend and the next three children in line are now going to Public School.

It was to this family who our friend Fr. Peterson told that Fr. Tetherow was a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ before his dismissal. Fr. Peterson told us we had to, "Fire him"(Tetherow) in the presence and home of Anthony and Joyce Paglia in Baltimore, MD.

As far as I know, this family still supports Tetherow.

I would like to add that husband of second woman told a few persons that he moved to get his wife away from Tetherow. Unfortunately he was spineless and moved her back.

As of recent, the husband and remaining 6 children no longer attend Tetherow's chapel. He and the children go elsewhere without his wife. And to add, most from Tetherow's chapel have all left.

onewhoknows · « **Reply #295 on:** May 18, 2016, 07:01:03 AM »

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To these objective facts there is my suspicion that demonic techniques to gain control over impressionable souls, particularly women, were commonly used by him. He has three women who willing commit objective sins at his command. All three of these women have attempted to leave him at one time or another but he has always, at great personal effort, worked to bring them back into his fold. On two of these women he performed a “minor exorcism” after which they exhibited changes in personality. The third woman was known by Tetherow before he arrived in York. He personally moved this woman to York so I am unaware of what may have happened in the past. One of these women left Tetherow for a brief period and returned, but during the time she had left wrote a letter in which she repented for intentionally damaging our reputation by spreading known lies at the direction of Tetherow.

What is more disturbing, Tetherow insisted to a priest who had some chronic medical problems that he may be “possessed” and needed to undergo a “minor exorcisism.” Although the priest refused, against his will an improvised rite was imposed by Tetherow. This priest later developed a severe psychotic episode lasting several days that required hospitalization which, in retrospect, he blames on something Tetherow did. He describes the “exorcism” as a hellish experience. I leave it to others to sift the story for whatever you make of it.

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Drew you nailed it.

I didn't know Tetherow had done all this.

This is a demonic possession case.
I don't believe he was operating alone, but rather, a satanic coven is behind him.
Besides Boston, KY, there's been a satanic infiltration at the trad chaples in Australia too.

Paul Hernandez has also been known to prey on women, trying to separate them from their spouses.

One of his ex-helper lady friends from the Phoenix area escaped and was hiding from him.
The person in contact with her said she was on the verge of a nervous breakdown.

These coven operations are networked. This isn't happening by chance.

It was providence that Fr. Pfeiffer let it slip that he was "friends" with Tetherow.

Important facts about the three women used by Tetherow to calumniate “his enemies”:

1-The woman he moved to York (name withheld):

As soon as Tetherow settled in York in the Summer of 2008, he asked my husband and I if this woman could stay in our home as a guest for a
couple of months while he found her a place to live. She was older and relied in his counseling. He got a member of the Mission to rent an apartment to her for which he applied for Section 8 in order to accommodate her. Tetherow collected money to rent a trailer to move her from New York and borrowed our Suburban to personally move her to York. Upon arrival, on October 31st, 2008, Tetherow called our home (2 miles away) for help unloading all the boxes. Two more months went by and she was still living in our home. She had not unpacked. In fact, she wanted to go back to NY and Tetherow asked me to help convince her to stay. She met Fr. Arthur de Maio, a priest who helped SSP&P as well as the SSPX in Pittston, PA at a funeral and talked to him in confidence. She told me that Fr. de Maio told her she had leave Tetherow and to go back to NY immediately. Tetherow suddenly surprised her! He came to our home to pick her up and take her to her apartment. He had single-handedly unpacked everything and decorated her home and bought her a new TV set. She was pleased and disobeyed the advice of Fr. de Maio. Never went back. When New Years Eve came, one of the families from SSP&P had a beautiful party for all the members and of course Tetherow. Tetherow declined because he had a “previous engagement”. He spent the evening instead in the apartment and company of this woman.

From that point I noticed much detraction from Fr. de Maio on the part of Tetherow. Later I found out it was calumny. He has done the same with other priests who knew him and often accused even priests of things we found that he is guilty of.

The priest who told us about this woman and Tetherow breaking the 6th commandment was not Fr. DeMaio. It was the priest that Tetherow denies ever meeting.

2- Second woman used by Tetherow:

This one, a friend of ours for many years, had undergone a “minor exorcism” by Tetherow and developed a psychotic episode lasting several weeks that she attributed to a single dosage of an antibiotic medication. This woman and her family had moved to NH to live near her sister and away from Tetherow. While her husband was gone on business, Tetherow drove to her home in NH and twisted her arm to come back to PA. They were back in about two months or so and she has not spoken to her sister since because of their disagreement about Tetherow.

At the time Tetherow was dismissed from SSP&P, the two older boys of this family where teenagers and one of them, was particularly pious and "wanted to be a priest". Both of these boys have lost the faith. One is now a heroin addict, three times in and out of rehab. The other is cohabitating with a girlfriend and the next three children in line are now going to Public School.

It was to this family who our friend Fr. Peterson told that Fr. Tetherow was a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ before his dismissal. Fr. Peterson told us we had to, "Fire him"(Tetherow) in the presence and home of Anthony and Joyce Paglia in Baltimore, MD.

As far as I know, this family still supports Tetherow.

#3 Woman used by Tetherow:

The next woman has seen through Tetherow from the start. She warned us about him a couple of months before the dismissal in 2010 but it was only from her own experiences with him and many, many lies, that Tetherow had been caught in regarding myself and my husband but by this time Tetherow had so turned everyone against us that they couldn’t care less. They all were willing and ready to turn the Mission of SSP&P to the SSPX.

The day before the Feast of St. Michael the Archangel, 2013 this woman called me and told me she was ready (again) to leave Tetherow. I told her all we knew, which was the information we have shared here. The only thing we withheld was the canonical papers because we thought she may go back and did not want Tetherow to know what information we had until the proper time. The woman came to SSP&P Mission for Mass the next day. She arrived early and wanted to tell me “All the calummies she help Tetherow spread to destroy our reputation”. I didn’t want to know (better that way) and told her: “We move on,(name), I don’t need to know”. After taking for about 40 minutes, she told me she could not leave Tetherow without proof to show the people at Tetherow’s chapel because: “What he did to you and David, he will do to me” and she could not risk that. She tried to get information from Fr. Peterson but he would not give it to her because he is very experienced and he knew even his old friends refused to believe him. He reprimanded me for attempting to open people’s eyes in the past. He knew it was useless. He said to me: “Can’t you see that they don’t want to know because their hearts are not pure?! And indeed! This poor woman went back to Tetherow and as far as I know, she is still there.

I will copy below a letter we received from this woman (name withheld) on 08/2015. She had left Tetherow and sent us this letter at that time. Since then, she has returned to Tetherow. In her letter she blamed “her Hell” on us and Fr. Peterson for being “uncharitable” in not giving her the kind of “proof” that she needed to leave him. This woman received a “minor exorcism” from Tetherow. It was after this “exorcism” that she underwent a radical change in personality doing things objectively against the commandments at his direction that were entirely uncharacteristic of her behavior before.

PS:SMA= St Michael the Archangel, Tetherow's chapel. The email she speaks about was a reply to an email sent to SSP&P Mission by a friend of Tetherow and only those people he copied the email to, received my husband's reply.

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #296 on:** May 18, 2016, 12:03:30 PM »

Quote from: onewhoknows

2- Second woman used by Tetherow:

This one, a friend of ours for many years, had undergone a “minor exorcism” by Tetherow and developed a psychotic episode lasting several weeks that she attributed to a single dosage of an antibiotic medication. This woman and her family had moved to NH to live near her sister and away from Tetherow. While her husband was gone on business, Tetherow drove to her home in NH and twisted her arm to come back to PA. They were back in about two months or so and she has not spoken to her sister since because of their disagreement about Tetherow.

At the time Tetherow was dismissed from SSP&P, the two older boys of this family where teenagers and one of them, was particularly pious and "wanted to be a priest". Both of these boys have lost the faith. One is now a heroin addict, three times in and out of rehab. The other is cohabitating with a girlfriend and the next three children in line are now going to Public School.

It was to this family who our friend Fr. Peterson told that Fr. Tetherow was a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ before his dismissal. Fr. Peterson told us we had to, "Fire him"(Tetherow) in the presence and home of Anthony and Joyce Paglia in Baltimore, MD.

As far as I know, this family still supports Tetherow.

I would like to add that husband of second woman told a few persons that he moved to get his wife away from Tetherow. Unfortunately he was spineless and moved her back.

As of recent, the husband and remaining 6 children no longer attend Tetherow's chapel. He and the children go elsewhere without his wife. And to add, most from Tetherow's chapel have all left.

onewhoknows,
I'm glad to hear the husband is taking charge of the children. Unfortunately for him, "families that pray together stay together". Tetherow doesn't care what relationships he destroys. I pray for them daily at Mass.

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #297 on:** May 19, 2016, 10:41:15 AM »

Quote from: onewhoknows

Quote from: Maria Auxiliadora
2- Second woman used by Tetherow:

This one, a friend of ours for many years, had undergone a “minor exorcism” by Tetherow and developed a psychotic episode lasting several weeks that she attributed to a single dosage of an antibiotic medication. This woman and her family had moved to NH to live near her sister and away from Tetherow. While her husband was gone on business, Tetherow drove to her home in NH and twisted her arm to come back to PA. They were back in about two months or so and she has not spoken to her sister since because of their disagreement about Tetherow.

At the time Tetherow was dismissed from SSP&P, the two older boys of this family where teenagers and one of them, was particularly pious and "wanted to be a priest". Both of these boys have lost the faith. One is now a heroin addict, three times in and out of rehab. The other is cohabitating with a girlfriend and the next three children in line are now going to Public School.

It was to this family who our friend Fr. Peterson told that Fr. Tetherow was a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ before his dismissal. Fr. Peterson told us we had to, "Fire him"(Tetherow) in the presence and home of Anthony and Joyce Paglia in Baltimore, MD.

As far as I know, this family still supports Tetherow.

I would like to add that husband of second woman told a few persons that he moved to get his wife away from Tetherow. Unfortunately he was spineless and moved her back.

As of recent, the husband and remaining 6 children no longer attend Tetherow's chapel. He and the children go elsewhere without his wife. And to add, most from Tetherow's chapel have all left.

I should mention that "woman #2" and husband (Mr. X) led the SSP&P revolt against us for Tetherow in spite of their dear friend and elderly priest's warning (Fr. Peterson) that Tetherow was a pedophile. He was also the financial backbone behind Tetherow. This man abandoning Tetherow is a big deal and a real threat to his continuing to deceive other Catholics. Mr. X is an excellent, generous, hardworking and very successful business man who loves his wife dearly and allows himself to be manipulated by Tetherow through her. They will need all the prayers your (every one's) charity can afford to get Mrs. X away from Tetherow. They have a beautiful family and the only way to get the two older ones brought back to the faith is to leave Tetherow 100% behind them and dedicate their time to them. Let's pray.

onewhoknows · « **Reply #298 on:** May 19, 2016, 01:49:20 PM »

Quote from: Maria Auxiliadora

Quote from: onewhoknows

Quote from: Maria Auxiliadora
2- Second woman used by Tetherow:

This one, a friend of ours for many years, had undergone a “minor exorcism” by Tetherow and developed a psychotic episode lasting several weeks that she attributed to a single dosage of an antibiotic medication. This woman and her family had moved to NH to live near her sister and away from Tetherow. While her husband was gone on business, Tetherow drove to her home in NH and twisted her arm to come back to PA. They were back in about two months or so and she has not spoken to her sister since because of their disagreement about Tetherow.

At the time Tetherow was dismissed from SSP&P, the two older boys of this family where teenagers and one of them, was particularly pious and "wanted to be a priest". Both of these boys have lost the faith. One is now a heroin addict, three times in and out of rehab. The other is cohabitating with a girlfriend and the next three children in line are now going to Public School.

It was to this family who our friend Fr. Peterson told that Fr. Tetherow was a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ before his dismissal. Fr. Peterson told us we had to, "Fire him"(Tetherow) in the presence and home of Anthony and Joyce Paglia in Baltimore, MD.

As far as I know, this family still supports Tetherow.

I would like to add that husband of second woman told a few persons that he moved to get his wife away from Tetherow. Unfortunately he was spineless and moved her back.

As of recent, the husband and remaining 6 children no longer attend Tetherow's chapel. He and the children go elsewhere without his wife. And to add, most from Tetherow's chapel have all left.

I should mention that "woman #2" and husband (Mr. X) led the SSP&P revolt against us for Tetherow in spite of their dear friend and elderly priest's warning (Fr. Peterson) that Tetherow was a pedophile. He was also the financial backbone behind Tetherow. This man abandoning Tetherow is a big deal and a real threat to his continuing to deceive other Catholics. Mr. X is an excellent, generous, hardworking and very successful business man who loves his wife dearly and allows himself to be manipulated by Tetherow through her. They will need all the prayers your (every one's) charity can afford to get Mrs. X away from Tetherow. They have a beautiful family and the only way to get the two older ones brought back to the faith is to leave Tetherow 100% behind them and dedicate their time to them. Let's pray.

Yes I am well aware that they led the revolt. If you can pray for them you are very charitable. I do pray for the children. The Mrs. will definitely need prayers when this all comes down.
There is a lot of pride there.
I wish I could pm you but this system doesn't let me. I know you and you know me.

Matthew · « **Reply #299 on:** May 19, 2016, 02:45:30 PM »

I observe that each of us, on occasion, comes across a clear-cut case of objective, willful evil. And when we see it, we know it for what it is.

It's not a different opinion, not a different point of view, not something we could be wrong about -- but something that is just WRONG and we can't be silent about it.

For me, it's the man stubbornly following Fr. Pfeiffer -- now he's upset that Fr. Voigt isn't saying Mass here anymore, now he doesn't come to Fr. Voigt's Mass because Fr. Pfeiffer changed his view on Fr. Voigt... and telling his daughter to stop taking her 5 children to Mass with an awesome priest like Fr. Zendejas.

I do have an easier time pitying the woman and 5 children rather than the patriarch. The patriarch is clearly to blame for the great evils that will spring from his bad decision (children growing up without practice of the Faith, possibly ending up apostate and/or Novus Ordo)

Actually, in both our cases we have a psychopath that is content to manipulate people. The man (in my case) and the woman #2 (in your case) are both victims of a master manipulator. But are they blameless? Have they been hypnotized and totally blinded to the evils they perpetrate? That is hard to believe...

It reminds me of a man I knew who was dating a non-Catholic. Everyone in his family including me knew that she was a compulsive liar, but he stayed with her for quite a while. He had to be denying the truth, which is always sad.