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Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2017, 02:02:35 PM »
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  • Where can we find this propaganda campaign?  

    Pablo's latest video defending Fr Roberts


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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #16 on: December 15, 2017, 02:06:58 PM »
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  • I'm afraid the only thing that will accomplish this is an absolute catastrophe, magnitudes more disastrous than any of the scandals to date. (Don't just "tsk tsk"-Pray and sacrifice for Frs P and H and the seminarians at OLMC! PtM too!)
    Wonder how supporters of fr. Pfeiffer are going to defend this.  Wonder how fr. Hewko can stand this.


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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #17 on: December 15, 2017, 06:07:15 PM »
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  • It looks as though Fr Pfeiffer has removed his long letter defending Fr Roberts. Has he had second thoughts? Is the Kool Aid wearing off? What a sad, desperate cult they have become. Like the SSPX they should just crawl away and wind up operations which will ultimately cause less harm and heart ache.
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    The video version is still online: UFeApISEdLg
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    If you download the video you can transcribe the letter later. It scrolls up the screen for the duration -- about 7 pages.
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    The music background is really bad. It's a Mexican bugle & drum band with typically out-of-tune brass and approximate timing in the percussion.
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #18 on: December 15, 2017, 07:11:49 PM »
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  • Wonder how supporters of fr. Pfeiffer are going to defend this.  Wonder how fr. Hewko can stand this.
    Fr Hewko is a militant defender of Fr Roberts.

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #19 on: December 15, 2017, 08:06:18 PM »
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  • Fr Hewko is a militant defender of Fr Roberts.
    What has happened to our dear fr. Hewko?
    To any ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ perversion he always used to say, "gross"....
    He's been in a barrel with a bad Apple too long...


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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #20 on: December 16, 2017, 05:58:14 AM »
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  • Fr Hewko is a militant defender of Fr Roberts.
    The evidence against fr. Roberts is overwhelming...
    Perhaps nostalgia of their seminary days together has clouded the judgements of the OLMC priests.

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #21 on: December 16, 2017, 09:26:13 AM »
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  • Just a smattering of evidence online about Fr. Roberts (aka Fr. Mary of the Pillar, OP).

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    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles_HTML/2009/002_2009/VM-2009-02-16/VM-2009-02-16-A-00-Mgr_de_Galarreta_compromis.html 

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    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2009/VM-2009-01-23-A-00-Mgr_Williamson_Roberts.pdf
    having managed to get himself ordained elsewhere, found his way to the Society of St. John in America. It raised immediate suspicions about that highly publicized traditionalist venture, since their ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs recruit their own kind and the predators help 'groom' young and trusting victims for one another.

    All this at fact subject a docuмentation at www.SaintJustinMartyr.org/news/notices.html

    Since about 2006, the abbot Marshall Roberts intervenes under the pseudonym of ' Fra Domenico' on the American forum Angelqueen , where he deposits an average post per day

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    Fr. Hewko ordained deacon with ordination of Fr. Urutigioity, June 1991:
    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles_HTML/2009/002_2009/VM-2009-02-16/VM-2009-02-16-A-00-Mgr_de_Galarreta_compromis_fichiers/image005.jpg

    Fr Roberts ordained deacon with ordination of Fr. ensey, June 1995:
    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles_HTML/2009/002_2009/VM-2009-02-16/VM-2009-02-16-A-00-Mgr_de_Galarreta_compromis_fichiers/image006.jpg

    Fr Roberts ordination, June 1996:
    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles_HTML/2009/002_2009/VM-2009-02-16/VM-2009-02-16-A-00-Mgr_de_Galarreta_compromis_fichiers/image007.jpg

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    Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko long friendship with pervert priests and not the first time Fr. Roberts has been to Boston, KY:
    http://stas.org/sites/sspx/files/v057_spr1995.pdf

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    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles_HTML/2008/005_2008/VM-2008-05-03/VM-2008-05-03-A-00-Williamson_Urrutigoity-n1-ENG.htm

    Fr. Marshall Roberts is expelled from the seminary of the Institute of Christ the King because of accusations of sɛҳuąƖ misconduct. He finds refuge in the SSJ.

    There came no end to the complaints and denunciations against the SSJ, Fr. Urrutigoity and against Fr. Marschall Roberts.

    Dr. Bond issues a public notice to concerned Catholics.

    Fr. Marshall Roberts becomes a third suspected sɛҳuąƖ offender.

    On February 6, 2002, Fr. Marshall Roberts is charged with a moral affair.

    Fr. Richard Munkelt, formerly with the SSJ, comes forward with further insights into the scandal.

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    letter from Dr. Bond to +Timlin:
    http://www.seattlecatholic.com/article_20020130_Harboring_sɛҳuąƖ_Predators_in_Scranton.html

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    http://www.newengelpublishing.com/exploiting-traditionalist-orders-the-society-of-st-john/

    Fr. Marshall Roberts was another SSJ priest who resided with Urrutigoity and Ensey at St. Gregory’s Academy from 1997 to 1999.   

    According to the Vice-Rector of Christ the King Institute in Gricigliano, Italy, in 1993 Roberts was kicked out of the seminary when he formed an inordinate sɛҳuąƖ attachment to a fellow seminarian with whom he had become infatuated. Within 24 hours of the Vice-Rector being informed of Roberts’ designs on his classmate, who did not appreciate the attention, Roberts was looking for new living quarters. Roberts was eventually ordained by the SSPX and later became a founding members of the SSJ.  

    While at St. Gregory’s, Roberts befriended a young man from the graduating class of 1999 who later became a postulant in the Society. In a very irregular arrangement, Roberts and the postulant shared the same room and bed in a housing unit on the SSJ property.[60]

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    http://runningoff.blogspot.com/2004_07_25_archive.html
    Sunday, July 25, 2004
    New court docuмents filed by James Bendell, the attorney for John Doe, confirm that a fourth founding member of the Society of St. John has been accused of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ conduct: Fr. Bernardo Terrera. Terrera now joins the ranks of Fr. Carlos Urrutigoity, Fr. Eric Ensey, and Fr. Marshall Roberts.

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    http://archives.leforumcatholique.org/consulte/message.php?arch=2&num=81196
    I have been informed by the then vice-rector of the Institute's seminary in Gricigliano, Italy, that Marshall Roberts, who was a seminarian at the time, was pursuing a young seminarian to the point of writing him explicit love letters. According to the vice-rector, Marshall Roberts was enamored of this seminarian and, in his love letters, proposed a physical relationship. 
    The young seminarian, who did not appreciate Marshall Roberts' advances, gave the love letters to the vice-rector who then saw to it that Marshall Roberts was dismissed from the seminary within 24 hours. 
    Fr. Roberts found a happier home with the SSJ. As previously reported in my letter of February 6, 2002, both Fr. Carlos Urrutigoity and Fr. Dominic O'Connor gave Fr. Roberts the freedom to pursue a "particular friendship" in the SSJ. The object of Fr. Roberts' affections this time was a boy from St. Gregory's Academy who, upon graduation in 1999, joined the Society of St. John. Fr. Roberts and this boy occupied the same room on the SSJ's property in Shohola prior to Fr. Roberts' departure for England. When Fr. Roberts visited the SSJ in France, he was given special permission to spend time alone with this boy in his room after compline (night prayer). 

    There are now three confirmed ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ predators in the Society of St. John: 
    Fr. Carlos Urrutigoity, Fr. Eric Ensey, and Fr. Marshall Roberts. All three priests were founders of the SSJ.

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    irony: "Restoring the Bastions" by Fr. Dominic Mary of the Pillar, OP (aka Fr. marshall Roberts)
    http://www.lulu.com/shop/fr-marshall-roberts/restoring-the-bastions/hardcover/product-21001961.html

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #22 on: December 16, 2017, 02:16:26 PM »
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  • From Fr. Chazal (he gave me permission to post this online):

    Since I saw it, in 2013, if i recall the year, Fr Pfeiffer flew me to LA, and we met the excellent Attila Sinke Guimaraes, at his home, then we proceeded to Fr Perez.
    He was overclear on Fr Roberts, the letter he caught, and the expulsion.
    Since Fr Pfeiffer knows Fr Perez and his testimony perfectly, he can confront both and know things for himself.
    I do not see how can Fr Perez lie on this. (By the way his "boeuf bourguignon" was memorable).
    I do not understand why Fr Pfeiffer calls witnesses to come forward, since he met one directly. (By the way we asked Fr Perez to get convalidated and abstain from the xspx for Confirmations, and he politely declined. I still trust he will do the right thing one day, and I trust Bishop Zendejas good sense down the line).
    The instability of Fr Roberts, who is constantly changing places, names and shapes is a related problem.
    My best advice to Fr Roberts is to remain out of view and do real penance for ten years or decades at least. He cannot help anyone anymore; let him realize it for his own sake'as well.
    As for Kentucky, they will have to take full damage before they realize, not admit, they made another blunder.
    But more will come, since they are accountable only to themselves, like Bishop Fellay.
    The only good out of this is that only core members of pfeifferism remain, after one and another layer of the onion gets peeled off. We pray God that good families, after their bad experience with Fr Pfeiffer, will not fall into despair and will trust the few good priests that are still offering their help to them in America.
    In Iesu et Maria,
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #23 on: December 16, 2017, 02:21:44 PM »
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  • Here are the most important parts of this letter from Fr. Chazal:
    1. Since Fr Pfeiffer knows Fr Perez and his testimony perfectly, he can confront both and know things for himself.
    I do not understand why Fr Pfeiffer calls witnesses to come forward, since he met one directly.

    2. The instability of Fr Roberts, who is constantly changing places, names and shapes is a related problem.

    3. My best advice to Fr Roberts is to remain out of view and do real penance for ten years or decades at least. He cannot help anyone anymore; let him realize it for his own sake'as well.

    4. We pray God that good families, after their bad experience with Fr Pfeiffer, will not fall into despair and will trust the few good priests that are still offering their help to them in America.
    Regarding point 1, it sounds like Fr. Pfeiffer knows very well the testimony against Fr. Roberts. He is willfully ignoring it, for the sake of his own personal convenience (his apostolate/cult/operation, his seminary, his war against the 4 Resistance bishops, etc.)

    Point 2 is very important. The facts of history demand that we all notice this. He has joined so many groups, and his clerical career reads like a soap opera. From one group to another. He even changed his name for a while (Fr. Dominic Mary of the Pillar, OP).

    3 is excellent advice for someone in Fr. Robert's position. God doesn't will the death of the sinner, but that he be converted and live.

    4 can't be emphasized enough: when a family/person has been poisoned by Pfeifferism, and taken into the cult, once they go sour on the cult they are NOT going to go back to the SSPX, or even Bp. Zendejas. They tend to become bitter, despairing home aloners.
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #24 on: December 16, 2017, 04:35:20 PM »
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    2. The instability of Fr Roberts, who is constantly changing places, names and shapes is a related problem.



    While Fr. Pfeiffer was exposing +Fellay, Fr. Roberts was eager to join the SSPX and deliver the Jacksonville chapel to them. The reason Fr. Rostand didn’t sign the papers for that chapel is because the SSPX-Jacksonville agreement involved Fr. Roberts as a condition (or he would have never convinced the board members). Early 2012 the SSPX wrote a letter to Rome asking if Fr. Roberts was acceptable to them. The letter of reply from Rome rejecting Fr. Roberts was published by Rorate Caeli withholding the priest name. That letter was posted on IA or CathInfo and Fr. Roberts posted an admission that he was the priest mentioned in the letter from the Vatican.

    After that failed, he became part of the resistance against +Fellay.

    If Rome had accepted Fr. Roberts and the SSPX had signed the agreement in June 2012, the Jacksonville chapel would have closed because under the Vatican-SSPX agreement, all chapels less than three years old had to close. That was revealed by +Tissier.

    Now, instead of the pre-Bugnini Missal, the Jacksonville chapel use the 1962 missal which will be changed according to the stipulations from Summorum Pontificuм and its explanatory letter, Universae Ecclesiae.
    http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2017/10/dr-john-rao-call-your-office-only.html


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    Point 2 is very important. The facts of history demand that we all notice this. He has joined so many groups, and his clerical career reads like a soap opera. From one group to another. He even changed his name for a while (Fr. Dominic Mary of the Pillar, OP).

    You can add to it Fray Domingo.  https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/new-group-to-pray-for-the-pope/names.



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    3. My best advice to Fr Roberts is to remain out of view and do real penance for ten years or decades at least. He cannot help anyone anymore; let him realize it for his own sake'as well.



    That should be the advise of Frs. Pfeiffer and Hewko if they care about him. The SSPX, knowing Fr. Roberts, have manipulated him for their own purpose. The advise of Fr. Chazal is very wise as it is charitable.


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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #25 on: December 16, 2017, 05:52:06 PM »
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  • I have to wonder why some of you keep posting topics on Fr. Pfeiffer and Hewko.  Isn't it obvious that their ministries are in the dumpster?  Why post topics about these two, and go on about them page after page.  Let it go already!  The OLMC is over.


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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #26 on: December 16, 2017, 07:45:58 PM »
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  • I posted a victim affidavit that proved Fr. Roberts guilt on cor mariae on the thread about Fr. Roberts and they deleted the whole thread and Fr. Pfeiffer's open letter.

    Guess they don't want anyone accepting Fr. Pfeiffer's challenge to bring him proof of Fr. Robert's crimes.
    My presence in this venue is not an endorsement of the 8 bishops nor any particular priest. I reserve the right to my own mind and opinions, free from the thought police in the SSPX/Resistance/Sedevacantism.

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #27 on: December 16, 2017, 08:16:54 PM »
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  • A puzzle part, not an excuse for wrongdoing, but a possible reason for the Roberts/Pfeiffer situation being established might be that the Roberts are "old" family friends of the Pfeiffers; they go back somewhat.

     



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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #28 on: December 16, 2017, 08:25:10 PM »
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    3. My best advice to Fr Roberts is to remain out of view and do real penance for ten years or decades at least. He cannot help anyone anymore; let him realize it for his own sake'as well.
    Is this a big typo?
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    Should it say, do real penance for decades or at least for 10 years
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    Problem translating from French?
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #29 on: December 16, 2017, 11:07:19 PM »
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  • I posted a victim affidavit that proved Fr. Roberts guilt on cor mariae on the thread about Fr. Roberts and they deleted the whole thread and Fr. Pfeiffer's open letter.

    Guess they don't want anyone accepting Fr. Pfeiffer's challenge to bring him proof of Fr. Robert's crimes.
    They're feeling the heat from a position they cannot defend.

    http://cor-mariae.com/index.php?threads/apologies.6807/#post-12614
    Apologies to OLMC Fathers and all members who contributed to a thread recently started by said Fathers introducing Fr. Roberts. Cor Mariae refuses to give any credence to public tribunals or trial by Media that has developed since it started - hence it has been deleted.

    There will be no more discussions about Fr. Roberts. If anybody seeks clarification contact either Fr. Pfeiffer or Fr. Hewko.

    Pray for our priests one and all.

    Admin.


    It is not public tribunals or trials, its courts of law.  

    There is no defense for anyone who was with the SSJ for any length of time.  Birds of a feather flock together.  If there was anything defaming in Mrs. Engle's book of many years ago, she would have been sued at the time.  

    Fr. Pfeiffer wants proof?  Read the book!  Google the court docuмents and depositions.  They're there.

    A thread started by the OLMC fathers?  I find that hard to believe...

    How many more children need to be harmed?  How many more people will walk away from the Catholic Church due to ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ conduct by priests?  How much more must Our Lord suffer?