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The short version: He is trying to rehabilitate (defend) Fr. Marshall Roberts, despite all the truth that has come out about him in the past couple weeks.

He is exaggerating and lying as usual.

More is coming -- stay tuned.
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Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2017, 12:02:00 PM »
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    It never ends does it? How many times are we going to expose the massive lack of judgment by Fr. Pfeiffer? Seriously, is it ever going to end? 

    Yet, he will claim ad nauseum that he is defending the Archbishop's legacy from the corruption of the Neo-SSPX and the "compromised" stance of Bishop Williamson and his "followers". It is getting to the point of absurdity. 


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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #2 on: December 13, 2017, 12:12:55 PM »
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  • He is bringing the "4 Resistance bishops" into it, which is not called for at all.
    They have been doing their job: providing Sacraments (Confirmation, etc.) to the Faithful during this Crisis. That's their job.

    A bishop's visit to a chapel to give Confirmation to the Faithful should NOT BE CONSIDERED AN ENDORSEMENT of the priest, his politics, his theology, his pet beliefs, etc.

    Only mercenary organizations (like the SSPX, which has spent too much time learning from Freemasons)  use the Sacraments as political leverage or tools of manipulation.

    Fr. Roberts is making his own decisions...and those decisions have consequences.
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #3 on: December 13, 2017, 01:27:36 PM »
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  • Where can we find this propaganda campaign?  

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #4 on: December 13, 2017, 02:08:16 PM »
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  • Info about fr. Marshall Roberts and the perversion at olmc here, for those who don't already know:

    https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/fr-marshall-roberts-update/
     
      https://www.cathinfo.com/anonymous-posts-allowed/concerning-perversion-at-olmc-ky/
     


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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #5 on: December 14, 2017, 09:15:29 AM »
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  • The short version: He is trying to rehabilitate (defend) Fr. Marshall Roberts, despite all the truth that has come out about him in the past couple weeks.

    He is exaggerating and lying as usual.

    More is coming -- stay tuned.
    What exactly is he saying? 
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #6 on: December 14, 2017, 09:58:42 AM »
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    It never ends does it? How many times are we going to expose the massive lack of judgment by Fr. Pfeiffer? Seriously, is it ever going to end?

    Yet, he will claim ad nauseum that he is defending the Archbishop's legacy from the corruption of the Neo-SSPX and the "compromised" stance of Bishop Williamson and his "followers". It is getting to the point of absurdity.
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    To be perfectly honest, I think that there are very, very few who actually continue to support him.  There are some, sure, but it's actually pretty phenomenal the way that his support bandwagon has been almost entirely emptied in the course of a few years.  When he was ejected from the SSPX just a few years ago, you could read the forum and easily confuse him with Elias!
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #7 on: December 14, 2017, 10:02:15 AM »
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  • I personally spoke with Fr. Perez about this issue yesterday.  He confirmed that he read the letter Fr. Roberts wrote to the seminarian and that he, Fr. Perez promptly dismissed (Fr Roberts) because the letter was that bad.  Fr. Perez told me the letter was very clear, of a very scandalous nature, and further, as far as I can determine, exactly as described in these threads. Fr. Perez also said to me: "a tiger doesn't change its stripes".  And, "why doesn't Fr. Pfeiffer get in touch with me?"  Fr. Perez also told me that I wasn't the first person to contact him. 


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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #8 on: December 14, 2017, 10:18:45 AM »
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  • Randy Engels' book, Rite of Sodomy found here
    http://www.newengelpublishing.com/exploiting-traditionalist-orders-the-society-of-st-john/

    Excerpt:

    More Bad Apples in SSJ
     
              By early 2002, Bishop Timlin was aware that Fathers Urrutigoity and Ensey were accused of the sexual molestation. The District Attorney’s office of Lackawanna County had launched a criminal investigation into the accusations of sexual misconduct by the two SSJ priests, but was forced to abandon the case because of the statue of limitations. Time had run out for the complainant in May 2001. He would have to resort to a civil suit.
              Bishop Timlin immediately suspended Fathers Urrutigoity and Ensey and brought them to Scranton. Timlin was reported to be considering Urrutigoity’s request to be transferred to another religious order, when he learned that the SSJ had other “problem” priests.
              Fr. Marshall Roberts was another SSJ priest who resided with Urrutigoity and Ensey at St. Gregory’s Academy from 1997 to 1999.  
    According to the Vice-Rector of Christ the King Institute in Gricigliano, Italy, in 1993 Roberts was kicked out of the seminary when he formed an inordinate sexual attachment to a fellow seminarian with whom he had become infatuated. Within 24 hours of the Vice-Rector being informed of Roberts’ designs on his classmate, who did not appreciate the attention, Roberts was looking for new living quarters. Roberts was eventually ordained by the SSPX and later became a founding members of the SSJ. 
    While at St. Gregory’s, Roberts befriended a young man from the graduating class of 1999 who later became a postulant in the Society. In a very irregular arrangement, Roberts and the postulant shared the same room and bed in a housing unit on the SSJ property.[60]
    Fr. Christopher Clay was another follower of Urrutigoity although he was never formally a member of the Society. He was a third possible sexual abuser of John Doe although his name does not appear in the civil lawsuit because, according to Doe’s co-counsel James Bendell, the case of overt sexual abuse was much stronger with Urrutigoity and Ensey. 
    After Bishop Timlin was advised that Clay was accused of also abusing John Doe, the bishop removed him from his teaching position at Bishop Hafey High School in Hazle Township, but with no apparent restriction as to travel. Later, Bishop Timlin offered to reassign Father Clay to St. Thomas More Church in Lake Ariel, Wayne County, but the priest had taken a leave of absence and returned to his hometown of Dallas, Texas where he attempted to recover from the stress of his encounter with the District Attorney’s office in Pennsylvania.[61]
    After Father Clay returned to the Dallas area, he hooked up with an old friend, Father Allan Hawkins of St. Mary the Virgin Church in Arlington. In 2003, Fr. Hawkins called Bishop Timlin to see if he had any objection to Clay helping him out with Mass and parish work. Timlin said he had no objections. According to Hawkins, he was not told of the accusations of pederasty against Father Clay or that Clay’s case was still under an internal investigation by the Scranton Diocese.
    In April 2002, Bishop Joseph Martino, the new Ordinary of Scranton wrote Clay asking what his plans were for his future ministry.”[62]
    According to Chancellor Rev. Robert Wilson of the Dallas Diocese, diocesan officials did not know anything about Father Clay, much less that he was assisting Father Hawkins at the Arlington parish.
    Fr. James Early, Chancellor of the Scranton Diocese said that Clay had advised the diocese that he was working in Texas as a medical insurance reviewer. If his statement is true, this means that apparently Timlin kept his own Chancellor in the dark as to Fr. Clay’s pastoral activities at St. Mary’s.
    For his part, Timlin defended his actions on the basis that no criminal charges resulted from John Doe’s accusations (due to the statute of limitation) and he (Clay) was not named in the subsequent civil lawsuit filed by John Doe.
    One parishioner from St. Mary’s who was interviewed by a reporter for The Dallas Morning News after the Scranton story broke exclaimed that “He’s excellent with the young people. …They feel like they can talk with him.”[63] Hmmmm. Let’s see. A pederast who is good with young people and makes them feel that they can communicate and confide in him! Absolutely astonishing!
    The same Dallas paper also reported that the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has supposedly authorized an ecclesiastical judicial process against Urrutigoity, Ensey and Clay.[64] The reporter said that Fr. Urrutigoity had been recently spotted in the Dallas area. The $64,000 question is whether or not the two accused SSJ priests will flee the country to South America before their trial begins?

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #9 on: December 14, 2017, 03:17:04 PM »
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  • The vice rector of Christ the king academy who kicked out then-seminarian Marshall Roberts was fr. Patrick Perez.

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #10 on: December 14, 2017, 04:15:41 PM »
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    To be perfectly honest, I think that there are very, very few who actually continue to support him.  There are some, sure, but it's actually pretty phenomenal the way that his support bandwagon has been almost entirely emptied in the course of a few years.  When he was ejected from the SSPX just a few years ago, you could read the forum and easily confuse him with Elias!
    Very, very few supporters send in enough money to keep the place going?  


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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #11 on: December 14, 2017, 05:48:07 PM »
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  • I personally spoke with Fr. Perez about this issue yesterday.  He confirmed that he read the letter Fr. Roberts wrote to the seminarian and that he, Fr. Perez promptly dismissed (Fr Roberts) because the letter was that bad.  Fr. Perez told me the letter was very clear, of a very scandalous nature, and further, as far as I can determine, exactly as described in these threads. Fr. Perez also said to me: "a tiger doesn't change its stripes".  And, "why doesn't Fr. Pfeiffer get in touch with me?"  Fr. Perez also told me that I wasn't the first person to contact him.
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    Several years ago a friend told me that Fr. Pfeiffer and another priest showed up at his door one day. This was in the Los Angeles area near LAX (about 20 miles west of Fr. Perez's OLHC in Garden Grove, well within his operating range since he has Mass regularly in Northridge at 50 mi. distance). He had no idea who these two priests were until they introduced themselves. They had found this address from a contact list. Until their introduction my friend had never heard of them. He said it was very odd they would not have contacted him in advance of their arrival, since these days you never know who a stranger is and it could be a set-up for some kind of scheme. But they behaved as if this were nothing unusual. It would seem Fr. Pfeiffer could have been making a habit of  A)  dropping in unannounced to homes of non-acquaintances and  B)  making it a point to not contact Fr. Perez. IOW it seems that Fr. Pfeiffer and the other priest (could have been Fr. Chazal or Fr. Hewko?) presumed that the occupants of the house would of course recognize them immediately upon first sight, because of the Internet videos. But that would seem to have been presuming too much.
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    Fr. Perez is on good terms with +W and makes no secret of that. But since Fr. Pfeiffer makes no secret of his differences with +W, it appears that Fr. Pfeiffer might (?) therefore (?) be avoiding contact with Fr. Perez.
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    That's the only thing I can imagine could answer this question, "why doesn't Fr. Pfeiffer get in touch" with Fr. Perez? 
    I mean, if they're going to pop in unannounced at a layman's home why wouldn't they try to pop in unannounced to a fellow priest's home or at least if 20 miles was too far, then bother to try calling him on the phone? Makes no sense.
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    Why would 20 miles be "too far" when L.A. is over 2,000 miles away from KY?
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    Good priests spend a lot of time reading spiritual books and praying. They are frequently interrupted by phone calls.
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #12 on: December 15, 2017, 11:05:51 AM »
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  • It looks as though Fr Pfeiffer has removed his long letter defending Fr Roberts. Has he had second thoughts? Is the Kool Aid wearing off? What a sad, desperate cult they have become. Like the SSPX they should just crawl away and wind up operations which will ultimately cause less harm and heart ache.

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #13 on: December 15, 2017, 11:56:05 AM »
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  • I am fascinated and frustrated at seeing priests who should be at the forefront in defending Catholic orthodoxy, who should be leading souls to Christ, who should be balanced and utterly infused with the spirit of the Gospel instead laying a path of confusion and destruction because of their advancing of petty ideas and petty attachments all in the name of defending the pure and unadulterated teaching of Archbishop Lefebvre. My response is: nonsense! 

    Let's be objective. When we see Fr. Pfeiffer whose zeal should have been an instrument for the cause of Tradition, the anti-liberalism of the Popes and perhaps a forgotten aspect -- the teaching of the spiritual life -- defend the indefensible (need I make a list?) one must wonder whether he really understands what he is doing. How is he building up the Mystical Body of Christ? Some of his "followers" on Cor-Mariae cannot see any faults in what Fr. Pfeiffer is doing because if they were to do so then their whole foundation would crumble. "We are defending the Truth!!!. We have the truth because we are being persecuted so much!" Such is the vicious cycle of irrationality. 


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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer launched lying propaganda campaign today about Fr. Roberts
    « Reply #14 on: December 15, 2017, 01:15:57 PM »
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  • It looks as though Fr Pfeiffer has removed his long letter defending Fr Roberts. Has he had second thoughts? Is the Kool Aid wearing off? What a sad, desperate cult they have become. Like the SSPX they should just crawl away and wind up operations which will ultimately cause less harm and heart ache.
    I'm afraid the only thing that will accomplish this is an absolute catastrophe, magnitudes more disastrous than any of the scandals to date. (Don't just "tsk tsk"-Pray and sacrifice for Frs P and H and the seminarians at OLMC! PtM too!)

     

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