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Offline Nadir

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Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
« Reply #135 on: December 07, 2017, 03:24:55 PM »
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  • I'm not understanding the point you are making here, Incredulous. I'm contesting that blessed Jacinta ever had that concern in the first place. It just sounds odd. In what account (book?) have you read it? I'd like to know where this account comes from. I don't think it's true.
    "That concern" being: Her one and only fear was that during preparation for surgery, the exposure of her body to the hospital workers might be a near occasion for them to commit a mental sin of impurity in their hearts.
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    I also had heard, not read, this. I don't see any reason to doubt it. 
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    Normal children raised in our society have an innate sense of modesty, and we are talking about a little Catholic girl who had personal communications with the Blessed Virgin, who had warned her of souls falling into Hell for reasons of impurity. So should not be surprised at this claim. In fact we should think it not only credible and true.
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #136 on: December 07, 2017, 07:39:10 PM »
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  • Incredulous Quote
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    Typical of Fr. Pfeiffer, the grown-up, incorrigible "fat-boy", who has always sought after attention.

    The fact the OLMC's priests are under the control of the fake lay-exorcist, Paul Hernandez, should put a chill down our spines.

    Just ignore them.

    It's Advent, so I'd want to apologize for breaking charity, and making this statement. 
    As discouraging as the OLMC situation is, I should keep my patience and prayers for them.

    No kidding
    +Truth and Justice for all+
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #137 on: December 08, 2017, 10:09:05 AM »
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  • "That concern" being: Her one and only fear was that during preparation for surgery, the exposure of her body to the hospital workers might be a near occasion for them to commit a mental sin of impurity in their hearts.
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    I also had heard, not read, this. I don't see any reason to doubt it.
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    Normal children raised in our society have an innate sense of modesty, and we are talking about a little Catholic girl who had personal communications with the Blessed Virgin, who had warned her of souls falling into Hell for reasons of impurity. So should not be surprised at this claim. In fact we should think it not only credible and true.

    So you had heard of this, but not read it. I suppose that makes it true for you. So far, no one has provided any actual verifiable source for this claim. Blessed Jacinata didn't have that many people around her when she was ill in the hospital who could have heard her say this, and then passed it on. Who was it that claimed that she said this? Not Sister Lucy, as far as I know.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #138 on: December 08, 2017, 05:31:32 PM »
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  • So you had heard of this, but not read it. I suppose that makes it true for you. So far, no one has provided any actual verifiable source for this claim. Blessed Jacinata didn't have that many people around her when she was ill in the hospital who could have heard her say this, and then passed it on. Who was it that claimed that she said this? Not Sister Lucy, as far as I know.
    Meg, it is a shame that you have such an offensive manner of speaking.
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    I have no desire or need to prove it and it not an article of faith. My only reason for my post was to point out that is a very reasonable thing to believe that a Catholic child who had warnings from the Blessed Mother to pray for poor sinners who might otherwise be headed for hell, would care about being seen naked by doctors and that she might care about the state of their souls.
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    And as I said, I heard it, not read it, so no "actual verifiable source".
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #139 on: December 08, 2017, 06:32:45 PM »
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  • http://www.fatimacrusader.com/truestory/pdf/tspg65.pdf

    The bottom of page 71 -


    "Yet she appears to have suffered more from the humiliation of having to expose her body and to place herself into the hands of the strange doctors."









    If any one saith that true and natural water is not of necessity for baptism, and on that account wrests to some sort of metaphor those words of Our Lord Jesus Christ, "Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost...,"  Let Him Be Anathama.  -COUNCIL OF TRENT Sess VII Canon II “On Baptism"


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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #140 on: December 08, 2017, 10:13:48 PM »
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  • http://www.fatimacrusader.com/truestory/pdf/tspg65.pdf

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    "Yet she appears to have suffered more from the humiliation of having to expose her body and to place herself into the hands of the strange doctors."
    Thanks for the research and source Merry!  :chef:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #141 on: December 09, 2017, 12:06:58 AM »
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  • Incredulous QuoteIt's Advent, so I'd want to apologize for breaking charity, and making this statement.
    As discouraging as the OLMC situation is, I should keep my patience and prayers for them.
    :pray:
    AMEN  :pray:
    "It is impious to say, 'I respect every religion.' This is as much as to say: I respect the devil as much as God, vice as much as virtue, falsehood as much as truth, dishonesty as much as honesty, Hell as much as Heaven."
    Fr. Michael Muller, The Church and Her Enemies

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #142 on: December 09, 2017, 06:59:36 AM »
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  • Meg, it is a shame that you have such an offensive manner of speaking.
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    I have no desire or need to prove it and it not an article of faith. My only reason for my post was to point out that is a very reasonable thing to believe that a Catholic child who had warnings from the Blessed Mother to pray for poor sinners who might otherwise be headed for hell, would care about being seen naked by doctors and that she might care about the state of their souls.
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    And as I said, I heard it, not read it, so no "actual verifiable source".

    Actually, Nadir, you just don't like the fact that I challenged you on the subject. You can't seem to handle that.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #143 on: December 10, 2017, 12:49:12 AM »
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  • Actually, Nadir, you just don't like the fact that I challenged you on the subject. You can't seem to handle that.
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    Are you aware it's now Advent, Meg, a season of penance? You know, there is a Sacrament by that name. I recommend you ask your priest under the seal of the Sacrament about the sufferings of Blessed Jacinta. Maybe that will help you, and it might even help the priest! Blessed Jacinta suffered for your sins and mine, just like Our Lord did. When we sin again we add to their pain. Think about that.
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    I spent some time researching the life of this holy child, and I was surprised to find so many things that are rarely mentioned. Her surgeon's name was Fr. Castro Freire -- do you doubt that? His diagnosis was "Purulent pleurisy of the large left cavity, with fistula; osteitis of the 7th and 8th ribs of the same side." Do you also doubt that? It's part of the Lisbon Hospital public record in Portugal. Go ask them. Do you know the name of the Postulator for the cause of her beatification? Do you know he wrote books on the subject? Did you ever read his books? Do you know the orphanage mother's name who was personally caring for Jacinta before she went in to the hospital? I could tell you her name and some of the things she revealed about her private conversations with Jacinta, like she told the Postulator, but then you'd have even more things to doubt in your persistently uncharitable, catty manner. You really ought to go to Confession about this bad habit of yours.
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    And take a break from the Internet for Advent. It's not doing your bad habit any good.
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #144 on: December 10, 2017, 02:45:45 AM »
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    The parish priest of Fatima, who knew Jacinta personally, wrote in his notes about her most remarkable piety and wisdom over a year before she died (author, James W. Demers):
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    This is the same Jacinta to whom Our Lady would appear at the church in Fatima to teach her how to pray the Rosary in consolation for the suffering to come. On August 6, 1918, Father Ferreira, the parish priest of Fatima confirmed in his Memoir:
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    “Jacinta affirms that Our Lady appeared to her another three times. The first time was in the church at Fatima, during Mass, on Ascension Thursday, May 18, 1918. At that time Our Lady taught her how to say the Rosary. The second time was at night, at the opening of the cave (the Cabeço), while the whole family was sleeping. The third time, in the house, was above a table; the Blessed Virgin was immobile and silent.”
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    The reality of Jacinta living out her full martyrdom in her primary years contains for critics and advocates alike a cherished lesson. Throughout history the faith and the Church have been edified, fortified and often rectified by mature women of great sanctity, the most commonly remembered being Catherine of Siena, Teresa of Avila and Thèrése of Lisieux, all now Doctors of the Church (as of 1997). The world-weary observer who in true humility can accept that his own sin-laden soul is momentarily out of the running for such honors, will be unable to resist a generous movement of the heart toward Jacinta, one that will overthrow cynicism so that he can say with pride in the child Jacinta of Fatima that she was a Doctor of Suffering.
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    Jacinta’s purity in imitation of Mary and Her Divine Son also affirms the dignity of the truly virginal priesthood.
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    When Sister Lucy wrote in a poem about Jacinta, “In deepest suffering, Jesus loving,…” she could have found no more precious words to describe the sacrificial celibate priesthood. In today’s disorientation, both within and without the Church, the priest who cherishes his virginity and lives his life in daily immolation of his human sɛҳuąƖity, who would face death rather than surrender his purity to any but God, is our hope for the future, for the faith, for the Church, for the salvation of souls. To these priests the very mention of the name Jacinta provokes tender emotion, an involuntary acknowledgment that in her they find an example which gloriously justifies the sacrifice which their striving for chastity demands of them.
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    There is even a more profound lesson to be learned for the priesthood from the tiny child of Fatima. Our Lady Herself was the tabernacle of the Most High, carrying God in Her virginal womb. Yet Christ did not call even Her to the priesthood.
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    Jacinta, in all her humility, stands in complete contrast to the ‘we would be as priest’ women of today’s Church. In everything she did she matched pain-for-pain the suffering of her brother and of the adults who surrounded her. She never made any claim for attention or special treatment and spurned any praise from pilgrims in search of a saint. She was pure and virginal first and last, with the heart of a martyr and a soul wide open to God. That is the perfect description of the priest who daily sacrifices the good of marriage for the greater good of souls.
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    It is the virgin priest, living in imitation of Christ’s holy purity, who is ensuring for the Bride of Christ the eternal husbandry of the Order of Melchisidech. Jacinta, now a flower on their altars, is a gift from the Church to the virgin priest. Jacinta was, and remains, definitive proof that, as in all things, in His choice of flowers God is always right.
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #145 on: December 10, 2017, 12:36:11 PM »
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  • Perhaps fr. Pfeiffer learned from fr. Vassal from post falls, ID:  "Children should be exposed to evil, so they learn how to deal with it." 


      https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/sodomy-scandal-in-post-falls-id-sspx-immaculate-conception-academy/


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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #146 on: December 10, 2017, 03:27:33 PM »
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  • Touche' Fanny 

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #147 on: December 11, 2017, 01:40:53 PM »
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    The three Fatima children, especially Francisco and Jacinta, provide us with a valuable lesson for how to faithfully endure suffering, how to make whatever inconveniences and difficulties and pains we encounter in this life into a prayer and a treasure we can present to God in reparation for sins committed against the Immaculate Heart of Mary. As explained by St. Louis Marie Grignon de Montfort in his The Secret of the Rosary, our readiness to accept such trifles as our opportunity to pray and do penance for our sins and the sins of others, offering this as our sacrifice is a signal grace of our predestination, and to the contrary, when one doggedly refuses to accept this opportunity for grace and instead shuns the Hail Mary and her Holy Rosary, it is a sign of God's eternal displeasure. 
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    From an edited excerpt from Mr. Faust's conference speech (2006): "Fatima and Pilgrimage: Conforming Our Lives to the Message of Fatima".
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    Jacinta and Francisco
    by Edwin Faust
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    It is tempting to speculate how closely the experiences of the children correspond to the degrees of prayer described by the mystical doctors of the Church, such as St. Teresa of Avila and St. John of the Cross. It can be said with certainty that the seers did all they could to enter actively into the dark night of the senses described by St. John of the Cross as the usual prelude to contemplation.
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    St. John tells us that the senses cannot bring us to God and that the more we indulge the senses the farther we put ourselves from God. So the first step in any advance towards a deeper prayer life must always be an increase in sensual denial, in asceticism. As St. Teresa of Avila so simply and so concisely stated “prayer and self-indulgence do not go together.” Ouch.
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    St. John of the Cross and the German mystics Meister Eckhart, John Tauler and Blessed Henry Suso tell us that Holy detachment contains the perfection of all the virtues because there we place ourselves entirely in God’s hands. We don’t want anything. Whatever He sends us is fine.
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    Meister Eckhart describes this in an interesting way. He says that “a man who is married to his self-will has something like a coating on his tongue that makes all suffering bitter to him. But a man whose will is in Holy detachment has his tongue coated with God and whatever comes to him, even suffering, tastes of God, tastes of that divine sweetness." I think Francisco achieved this state of detachment. He tended to view the world very much as the passing show that it is.
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    He even stopped attending school that he might spend his days kneeling in front of the Blessed Sacrament at the village church in Fatima consoling the “hidden Jesus” as he put it. When asked what he wanted to be when he grew up, and all such children are pestered by such questions, he would respond that he did not want to be anything; he only wanted to die and go to Heaven. As his detachment increased, he gave evidence of having reached deep states of contemplation. Lucy and Jacinta would sometimes find him lost in silent prayer in out of the way places: behind the wall, or lying flat on the ground, and they would have to call him insistently to bring him back to ordinary consciousness.
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    When Portugal, like the rest of Europe, was decimated by the influenza epidemic that followed World War I, the people in the vicinity of Fatima were not spared. All of Lucy’s family, except her, were stricken. And all of the Marto family, except the father, Ti Marto, also became seriously ill. Both Francisco and Jacinta knew that they would never recover from this illness and that it marked a road of penitential suffering that would only end with their deaths. But they accepted this calmly, even joyfully, for they had Our Lady’s promise that She would take them to Heaven.
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    Once when Lucy was visiting Francisco, she asked him if he suffered. “Bastante” (quite enough), he said “but it doesn’t matter. I suffer to console Our Lord, and in a little while I will be with Him.” Shortly before he died, he entrusted to Lucy a piece of rough hemp, part of a rope found by Lucy in the road a long time ago, that he and the other children had made into makeshift hair shirts.  He told Lucy to take it for he was no longer strong enough to make the exertion required to hide it from his mother. He lay motionless in his bed during the last few days of his illness, and on April 4, 1919, less than two years after the last Apparition, he died peacefully with a faint smile on his 10-year-old face. He was buried the next day at the churchyard in Fatima.
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    Jacinta
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    Jacinta was to die the following year, after a more prolonged and excruciating illness. If Francisco manifested detachment and tranquility, which are associated with the purification of the will, his younger sister displayed what might be described as a mystical illumination, a purification of the understanding. It may be that of the three children Jacinta was most immersed in a sense of the supernatural. The Blessed Mother also continued to appear to her both at her home near Fatima, when she was ill, and during her hospital stay in Lisbon, before her death.
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    Still More Holy
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    Jacinta was the youngest of the three children — only 6 years old during the apparitions of the Angel of Peace in 1916. And considering the events of Fatima, we sometimes lose sight of just how young these visionaries chosen by Heaven were. As Jacinta was just beginning to learn her catechism from Lucy who, at nine, was by no means an expert, she was wrapped in an atmosphere of the supernatural by Heavenly visitations.
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    How can we imagine her experience of the faith? I will venture to speculate that of the three seers her faith was probably the purest. And in saying this I mean no disparagement of the faith of Lucy and Francisco. But they were older. And if they knew little of the world, they at least knew and understood more than Jacinta, who was barely at the age of reason.
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    Spared that Poison
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    I think Jacinta was spared from that pull of the world that contends with our belief at the same time that we are being instructed in the faith. For even as children growing up in Catholic homes, we cannot escape the awareness that we live among many people who reject Christ’s Church; and even worse, we live among other people who accept the Catholic Faith in a lukewarm and offhand manner. So while we are learning our catechism, there runs parallel to our religious instruction the spirit of irreligion, the spirit of the world that eats away at our faith even as it is being formed, like a corrosive poison that we cannot help but ingest. I think that Jacinta never had to drink this poison. She was shielded from the spirit of irreligion and her intellect was endued with an almost angelic quality, so that her instruction in the faith was not so much passed through the filter of discursive of reasoning as it was purely infused.
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    What a wonderful gift she received. But as with all divine gifts, the effect was to make the recipient conform more perfectly with the giver, who is Christ Crucified.
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    Jacinta became ill during the same influenza epidemic that sickened Francisco. But the progress of her disease was to be long, complicated and excruciating. Like her brother, she remained tranquil and resigned to her suffering which she also welcomed as a Heaven-sent opportunity to offer sacrifices for the conversion of sinners. Jacinta’s attitude towards sinners, like that of all the seers, was not one of condemnation but of great pity.
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    Jacinta's Burning Love
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    She had seen hell and she had had a foretaste of Heaven. She did not envy the wicked their forbidden pleasures, which she saw in their true light as the prelude to eternal misery. She rather pitied them for their blindness to the true and lasting joy of loving God.
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    Before she was taken from her home to begin her final sufferings in Lisbon, Jacinta told Lucy, “If only I could put in the heart of everybody that light I have here in my breast to burn and make me love the Heart of Jesus and the Heart of Mary so much. I don’t know how it is, I feel the Lord inside of me. I understand what He says and I don’t see Him or hear Him. But it is so good to be with Him.” What Jacinta appears to be describing, in the simple words of a child, is an advanced stage of mystical union in which the soul abides in the Divine Presence and burns with love.
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    Jacinta developed pleurisy. Our Lady appeared to her and told her that she would have much to suffer, that she would be taken to a dark hospital in Lisbon, and that there she would die alone, but that Mary would come in the end to take her to Heaven.
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    Jacinta's Wisdom
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    She told her family of this communication from the Blessed Mother. Only Lucy believed her. She was taken to Lisbon through the good intentions of a priest and his wealthy doctor friends, who paid the expenses for her medical torture. Thus began what Jacinta knew would be her final agony. While waiting for arrangements to be made for her to be received at the hospital, however, she stayed at an orphanage under the care of a Franciscan nun, Mother Godinho, who quickly came to love her, and to believe that this child who had been placed under her protection was a saint. “She speaks with such authority”, she said.
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    She liked to draw Jacinta into conversation and she would write down the sayings and prophecies that poured from the little girl. Jacinta told her that wars are punishment for sins; that the world is preparing for itself terrible chastisements. She warned against love of wealth and luxury and counseled instead a love of holy poverty and silence.
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    She spoke of how much Our Lord values mortification and sacrifices. And this is very interesting to me: she said that doctors do not have the light to cure illnesses because they do not love God. So all wisdom, scientific, worldly and other-worldly is somehow rooted in Divine love.
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    There are also personal prophecies. She said that her older sisters, Theresa and Florinda, both had vocations to the convent, but that her parents would prevent them from fulfilling their vocations, so God would take them away from their parents through death. As she predicted, the two girls, both in their teens, died not long after she did.
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    Her Love for Jesus and for Sinners
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    And there were stories of cures effected by her intercession while she was alive, and even one report of a bilocation in which she led a wayward older cousin lost in the mountain wilderness to the path that led him back to his home and to the practice of his faith.
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    When she was taken to the hospital, the doctors decided on an operation. Local anesthetic was administered but apparently failed to have its full effect. And Jacinta endured what can only be described as ferocious pain as two of her ribs were removed. During the operation she cried out to Our Lord, “It is for Your love my Jesus, now You can convert many sinners, for I suffer much.” For six days she continued to suffer. Then Our Blessed Mother appeared to her and took away her pain and told her the day and hour of her death, assuring her again that She would come to take her to Heaven. Four days later, on February 20, 1920, Jacinta Marto died alone in her hospital bed, at the age of nine. When her body was exhumed in the 1950s, her face was found to be incorrupt. She is now Blessed Jacinta.
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #149 on: December 11, 2017, 03:33:51 PM »
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  • Fanny, why are you obsessed with the corruption at OLMC?  It's one thing to point out a sermon you disagree with.  It's quite another to continue the negativity with posts which are nothing but heresay and gossip.