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Offline Fanny

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Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
« on: December 03, 2017, 11:07:58 PM »
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    • Is this really appropriate from the pulpit?



    9 min mark- 10:15 min mark
    11:45-13
    13:35-14:05
    14:20-15:10
    15:35-15:45

    I could not listen anymore.

    Has he lost his mind?
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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #1 on: December 03, 2017, 11:56:30 PM »
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    It's inappropriate for children, but not for adults.
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    Taken at his word, if he were to give this sermon to Vatican clerics it wouldn't do them any good.
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    And that goes all the way to the top.
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    Offline JmJ2cents

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #2 on: December 04, 2017, 04:55:13 AM »
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    •  :oThis is absolutely inappropriate.  I would have walked out if I were there.  I can't believe Fr. Hewko would be ok with this sermon.  He is seriously losing it. Sad.   :facepalm:
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #3 on: December 04, 2017, 06:13:11 AM »
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    • Oh my.  Having to explain those terms to your innocent children?!  Not pleasant....
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #4 on: December 04, 2017, 06:37:56 AM »
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    • I agree w that jvk! 
    It was a rough listen to get the moral: sins of the flesh and selfishness can be overcome with the aid of Our Lady, mortification and charity!  
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    Offline Recusant Sede

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #5 on: December 04, 2017, 06:57:21 AM »
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    • In normal times he wouldn’t be given jurisdiction to preach.
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #6 on: December 04, 2017, 06:59:04 AM »
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    • Quote from: Recusant Sede on December 04, 2017, 06:57:21 AM
    In normal times he wouldn’t be given jurisdiction to preach.
    Definitely, this.
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #7 on: December 04, 2017, 07:42:12 AM »
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    • If the listener feels scandalized by what was said by Fr. Pfeiffer in those specified times, the person might suffer some level of scrupulosity.

    I'm not a fan of Fr. Pfeiffer, but saying the words "masturbation", "self-abuse", "ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ", and "self-pleasure" is not inappropriate or madness, considering he is warning people about these sins.
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #8 on: December 04, 2017, 08:02:02 AM »
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    • Quote from: Neil Obstat on December 03, 2017, 11:56:30 PM
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    It's inappropriate for children, but not for adults.
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    Taken at his word, if he were to give this sermon to Vatican clerics it wouldn't do them any good.
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    And that goes all the way to the top.
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    It is inappropriate for children and young teens.
    It is also inappropriate for mixed company.
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    Offline RoughAshlar

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #9 on: December 04, 2017, 08:16:45 AM »
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    • Lol - He said that it is the cause of cause of getting angry when cut off in traffic.  
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #10 on: December 04, 2017, 08:21:32 AM »
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    • Yes, he's absolutely lost his marbles.

    [Pfieffer]  Why do you get angry when someone cuts you off in traffic?  Because of masturbation.  That's why.  Why do you get angry when your coffee is cold?  Because of self-abuse.

    He's borderline certifiable.

    Even if one wants to touch upon delicate topics of purit/impurity from the pulpit, one should so so very delicately so that it goes over the heads of the children who are young enough where they shouldn't even hear mention of it.

    I should not go to Mass and come away feeling disgusted.  This sermon was absolutely repugnant.

    Father Pfeiffer seems angry all time too ... and he ties all anger back to self-abuse.
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #11 on: December 04, 2017, 08:24:23 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on December 04, 2017, 08:21:32 AM
    Yes, he's absolutely lost his marbles.

    [Pfieffer]  Why do you get angry when someone cuts you off in traffic?  Because of masturbation.

    Really?

    Even if one wants to touch upon delicate topics of purit/impurity from the pulpit, one should so so very delicately so that it goes over the heads of the children who are young enough where they shouldn't even hear mention of it.
    Exactly.
    From the pulpit and the way he is talking about it, it is as inappropriate for children as it is inappropriate for adults.
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #12 on: December 04, 2017, 08:28:05 AM »
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    • Look, He knew what he was doing.  I've sat through many sermons where the priest has spoke about the "sins of the flesh" without using the terms directly or graphically.  If he was speaking to specific group, counseling on a retreat, ect...that would be different.  But to go into such detail while the youth and innocent are present crosses a line.  We have had to have 'the talk' a couple times with the older ones, but I can't imagine having a "group talk" explaining this to family.  Again he knew what he was doing, and he knew he was being filmed.
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #13 on: December 04, 2017, 08:28:47 AM »
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    • Quote from: Stubborn on December 04, 2017, 08:24:23 AM
    Exactly.
    From the pulpit and the way he is talking about it, it is as inappropriate for children as it is inappropriate for adults.

    Right, it's not the mere mention of these topics that is inappropriate, but the WAY he talks about it.  He's vulgar and crass.  You treat subjects like this with the greatest delicacy ... and only to the extent necessary.  After that you direct any people who may have issues with these sins to discuss it in more detail IN THE CONFESSIONAL.
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer gone mad? VERY Inappropriate sermon.
    « Reply #14 on: December 04, 2017, 11:26:28 AM »
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    The sermon was a little shocking no doubt, but in this day and age, with cell phones, television, movies and general association with this society, the world is awash in those sins.  Evil can fill the world with sewage but Catholics can't address cleaning it up because its too dirty an issue? No wonder things are so bad. Catholics tippy-toe around the worse things and call it charity. 
    This was my first reaction.  It's an immoral, over-sɛҳuąƖized world out there - an utter warzone.  For children, I think it takes a combination of 1) sheltering and 2) direct discussion.  It's not either-or.
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