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Offline St.Patrick

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Fr. Pfeiffer attacks Fr.s Chazal, Ballini, MacDonald
« on: August 03, 2017, 02:30:37 PM »
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  • from Mod: I really don't think we need a regular dose of Pfeifferism. Anyone with too much time on their hands knows where to find this stuff.


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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer attacks Fr.s Chazal, Ballini, MacDonald
    « Reply #1 on: August 03, 2017, 03:03:56 PM »
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  • Typical Jєωιѕн mentality, he is right and everyone else is wrong. His cult is as lop-sided as their videos!! 


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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer attacks Fr.s Chazal, Ballini, MacDonald
    « Reply #2 on: August 03, 2017, 05:21:30 PM »
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  • Don't think the point was to give anyone "a regular dose of Pfeifferism".

    It was clearly to report on a newsworthy item in tradition. If you can have sedevacantists and feeneyites on Cathinfo, then you you can talk about Fr. Pfeiffer as well.

    You should put the video back up.

    Otherwise it will make people even more curious to see it ;)

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer attacks Fr.s Chazal, Ballini, MacDonald
    « Reply #3 on: August 03, 2017, 05:48:37 PM »
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  • It was clearly to report on a newsworthy item in tradition. 
    Fake news!   :P
    Fr. Pfeiffer's attacks on all other Resistance priests aren't fake, but it's become akin to saying the sun is going to rise tomorrow.


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    Otherwise it will make people even more curious to see it ;)
    Anyone who knows anything about Fr. Pfeiffer knows where they can find him.
    "I think that Catholicism, that's as sane as people can get."  - Jordan Peterson

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer attacks Fr.s Chazal, Ballini, MacDonald
    « Reply #4 on: August 03, 2017, 06:42:38 PM »
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  • :incense:  This press release just in from the Pablo/pfeiffer news desk!

    Planet X, Nirubu is scheduled to touch-down in Boston KY on August 21st.



    That's right, the long awaited chastisement actually started and will end at the Pfeiffer farm.




    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer attacks Fr.s Chazal, Ballini, MacDonald
    « Reply #5 on: August 03, 2017, 07:03:58 PM »
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  • Don't think the point was to give anyone "a regular dose of Pfeifferism".

    It was clearly to report on a newsworthy item in tradition. If you can have sedevacantists and feeneyites on Cathinfo, then you you can talk about Fr. Pfeiffer as well.

    You should put the video back up.

    Otherwise it will make people even more curious to see it ;)
    I agree.
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer attacks Fr.s Chazal, Ballini, MacDonald
    « Reply #6 on: August 04, 2017, 04:34:50 PM »
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  • I need to clarify my position on this:

    1. On the one hand, I believe that giving Fr. Pfeiffer a soapbox from which to spew his attacks on the (mainstream) Resistance is a bad thing. I hate to lend him CathInfo's readership and reach for such a dastardly cause.

    2. Related to #1, it is the informed opinion of Fr. Chazal and other priests I've talked to that Fr. Pfeiffer thrives on, even needs, attention and excitement. He wants desperately to be relevant. Denying this to him would therefore be the best strategy to get him to repent of his public sins (lies, slander) against the Resistance bishops and priests.

    3. CathInfo is a Traditional Catholic message board and news source, so occasional posts reminding people what is wrong with Fr. Pfeiffer is a good idea. But they should be measured out like salt -- too much salt spoils the dish.

    4. Also, posting Fr. Pfeiffer's propaganda (which is what his videos are) is NOT what I'm talking about in #3. To achieve the aims of point 3, it would be best to have the commentary of a priest (or maybe one of the members here) to instruct the ignorant third parties who might be listening to Fr. P's video thanks to someone posting it here. Fr. P can be very convincing to the emotional and/or ignorant. It's not until you know the facts of the case that you can see the various lies, deficiencies, and problems with his rhetoric.

    5. So posting his video here WITH FR.CHAZAL'S COMMENTARY is fine.

    6. Fr. Chazal just wrote back to me, expressing his full approval of my "editing work" on his original comments. I am removing the comments, since my editing job is now just as good -- it has Fr. Chazal's approval.
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer attacks Fr.s Chazal, Ballini, MacDonald
    « Reply #7 on: August 04, 2017, 04:35:32 PM »
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  • Fr. Chazal's commentary:
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    Fr. P is upset that we (mainstream Resistance priests and bishops) collaborate among each other. For example, I just came back from Ireland where I said Mass for Fr. MacDonald, to return the favor. (It is so hard for us to go to Australia, because Fr Picot is blacklisted now).

    Fr. P left out plenty of things that both he and I said:

    I told Fr. P that because I respect the mind of the Church, I stay put in Asia, because the Church prefers that "I know mine and mine know me". Even if, it is true, we do not have ordinary territorial jurisdiction.

    I have always said that enjoying jurisdiction via canons 209, 198 etc, does not dispense us from striving to find the mind of the Church, expressed in Canon Law. On which note I should point out that Fr. P does not teach any classes of Canon Law at his seminary at the present day. When I pointed this out to him, he replied that all his seminarians are in Philosophy.

    When I told him that it was Fr. Suneel who testified that the curriculum at his (OLMC) Seminary was a disgrace, and that he never learned how to say mass properly, Fr. P replied that Fr. Suneel was stolen away too soon to finish his classes there.

    Meanwhile, he does not realise the claim he is making on the Faithful. When Bishop Zendejas took over his Ridgefield chapel which he had served as Prior during his SSPX tenure for ten years or so, Fr. P reproached (then Fr.) Zendejas that he was stealing his sheep. And the same goes for the rest of the world: it is all founded by him and his. One must answer Fr. P's doctrinal summons, and be of clean doctrine in his eyes, even if he is not "Una cuм" -- for example, Fr. Cardozo.

    I was surprised to hear him say in so many words, "we cannot say Francis is a heretic, otherwise we are sedevacantists". I tried to explain to him that it is a matter of opinion, since we do not have the jurisdiction to issue such a sentence. He also does not like the distinction I make between the Visible Church and the Official Church and between the official church and the Conciliar Church; if Fr Kramer likes the idea it is only because it is a plaything to him.

    I asked him what his problem is with Avrille. He responded that they are liberals, they issued a liberal declaration and the Sel de la Terre is liberal.

    The Avrille run Journees Jean Vaquie of this year were loaded with sedevacantists.

    Regarding Bishop Williamson, I pointed out that he was quoted recently on the infamous swedish tv program as saying that the New Mass is a worship against nature that leads its ministers to the sin against nature. he said the same years before in his seminary newsletter, etc. it would appear that nothing is good enough for him. Nothing is ever good enough.

    Regarding Pablo's recent crazy video: that is just a plea for help: Pablo is still there taking care of a good number of things.

    I told Greg Taylor (who was present) that half of his efforts in his last Recusant were directed towards fighting us (the mainstream Resistance).

    But, nevertheless, it is clear that hardly anyone in Ireland has any illusions about Fr Pfeiffer. I told Fr. P that he is following the path of Fr. de Nantes, who spent all his life calling the Archbishop a liberal (asking him to retract his signature on the docuмents of Vatican 2 that he signed) and fought hard to keep people away from any priest friend of the Archbishop.

    The meeting would have gone on forever, but he was late and had to go this time. I don't expect any improvements in the coming year, but I don't consider our meeting a waste of time. It is always good to get it from the horse's mouth, even though I understand that Fr. P was using the meeting for his own purposes.

    like a year ago; I told Fr. P explicitly that we cannot collaborate any more. But, overall, the meeting was very informative in terms of determining his state of mind.

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer attacks Fr.s Chazal, Ballini, MacDonald
    « Reply #8 on: August 04, 2017, 05:00:39 PM »
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  • Thank you for posting this and clarifying.  I couldn't agree more and it helps.

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer attacks Fr.s Chazal, Ballini, MacDonald
    « Reply #9 on: August 04, 2017, 05:05:08 PM »
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  • I haven't been following Fathers Pfeiffer and Hewko lately because there was too much attacking of Bishop Williamson for my liking. But I have a question. Did they get rid of Pablo yet? I heard that because of pressure from his followers Father Pfeiffer was going to get rid of Pablo from Boston. Was that true?
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer attacks Fr.s Chazal, Ballini, MacDonald
    « Reply #10 on: August 04, 2017, 06:19:10 PM »
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  • Think the admin is hair-splitting.

    Especially considering since the commentary came anyway.


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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer attacks Fr.s Chazal, Ballini, MacDonald
    « Reply #11 on: August 04, 2017, 11:24:44 PM »
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  • I haven't been following Fathers Pfeiffer and Hewko lately because there was too much attacking of Bishop Williamson for my liking. But I have a question. Did they get rid of Pablo yet? I heard that because of pressure from his followers Father Pfeiffer was going to get rid of Pablo from Boston. Was that true?
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    The most recent videos on PTM's youtube channel (469fitter) even include a choppy one of Pablo interviewing himself. They look like Pablo is running the camera especially the ones that are set to display rotated 90 degrees clockwise (so very weird -- you have to lean your head to the right to see it straight up). In Fr. Chazal's commentary above, he says, "Regarding Pablo's recent crazy video: that is just a plea for help: Pablo is still there taking care of a good number of things." All in all, it seems to me that Pablo's sarcasm and poisonous attitude is infecting others. God help the seminarians who are often left to his supervision!

    Then he said:

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    I told Greg Taylor (who was present) that half of his efforts in his last Recusant were directed towards fighting us (the mainstream Resistance).
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    G.T. has now resorted to calling everyone outside the Fr. Pfeiffer sphere the "Fake Resistance." He uses an upper case F. That's pretty significant for Taylor, who takes some modicuм of pride in his literacy. (Even if he frequently slips and makes typos.) The F was no typo. He used it several times in the last issue. The conspicuous in-fighting is not attractive, to say the least. I could summarize the unmitigated libel against +W and (The expl. del.) Bishop Zendejas (which G.T. touts as "humour"), but it probably would be deleted by Matthew.
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    If you just listen to Fr. David Hewko you wouldn't know about the "internicene" invective because Fr. Hewko is a solid and pious priest with edifying sermons. But how he's keeping his head straight amidst this quarrelsome mudslinging festival is beyond my ability to imagine. I think we should pray for Fr. Hewko's endurance and stamina, if not his very sanity.
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer attacks Fr.s Chazal, Ballini, MacDonald
    « Reply #12 on: August 04, 2017, 11:39:52 PM »
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  • Fr. Chazal's commentary:  [......... see above]
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    As Paul Harvey would say, "Now you know the REST of the Story."
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    The [Fake] Recusant wouldn't print Fr. Chazal's Commentary because there isn't room!! HAHAHA
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    (Never mind the so-called (fictional?) interview of (the ...) Bishop Zendejas is referred to in the first page Editorial as being located on "Page 38" when in fact it's found on page 42 -- Taylor must have stretched out the format for several more pages after writing the Editorial.)
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    Thank you, Matthew, for setting the record straight.
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    In the end, unless someone makes a print-out of this thread, the only hard copy would be the print version of the [Fake] Recusant. 
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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer attacks Fr.s Chazal, Ballini, MacDonald
    « Reply #13 on: August 05, 2017, 01:59:10 AM »
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  •  This press release just in from the Pablo/pfeiffer news desk!

    Planet X, Nirubu is scheduled to touch-down in Boston KY on August 21st.



    That's right, the long awaited chastisement actually started and will end at the Pfeiffer farm.
    :applause: :cheers: :jumping2:
    "It is impious to say, 'I respect every religion.' This is as much as to say: I respect the devil as much as God, vice as much as virtue, falsehood as much as truth, dishonesty as much as honesty, Hell as much as Heaven."
    Fr. Michael Muller, The Church and Her Enemies

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer attacks Fr.s Chazal, Ballini, MacDonald
    « Reply #14 on: August 05, 2017, 11:10:13 AM »
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  • And here's to you my friend, Chrstnoel1

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi