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Fr. Pfeiffer and A.B. Moran vs Fr. Ortiz YouTube DL as MP3
« on: January 10, 2016, 12:01:00 AM »
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    Here is 16 MB MP3 file to email or convert to CD-A format for CD players in car etc.
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    Jacked up volume some places and turned down in some sections. Wish I had the time to slow his words down near the end and other places.
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    Maybe easier than Utube for some folks.
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    Definitely not "easy listening".
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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    « Reply #1 on: January 10, 2016, 06:06:42 AM »
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  • This recording is a great example of what NOT to use if you're sharing with someone you hope will convert to Traditional Catholic.  

    Fr. Pfeiffer is demonstrating how to be an embarrassment for the Resistance.

    I pity the people who had to sit and listen to this drivel instead of a sermon.

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    « Reply #2 on: January 10, 2016, 07:40:51 AM »
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  • Fr. Pfeiffer is doing the best he can. I am not against his style of delivery although he should drop his opposition to SVs. I am too wary of polished performances from those with large fancy endowments; instead I am endeared to those with holes in their shoes!

    Regarding legitimacy, I can remind those who may be without about throwing stones.  I consider tedious formality to be less in importance to genuine conviction and there we may have to give some benefit of the doubt. In these irregular times, beggars cannot be choosers.

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    « Reply #3 on: January 10, 2016, 03:52:36 PM »
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    Even ABL had a masonic layer of hands.
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    I am amazed that someone (Wessex) with your intellect and CI count and rep would repeat a totally unfounded comment re ABL and Leinart.
    And even if true I have never seen anything negative about the co-consicrator. (spelling)
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    « Reply #4 on: January 10, 2016, 04:38:24 PM »
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  • Quote from: Wessex
    I am too wary of polished performances from those with large fancy endowments; instead I am endeared to those with holes in their shoes!


    I see where you are coming from (only on this particular point) because I tend the same way. But however endearing holes in the shoes can be, it cannot make up for the damage of holes in sanctity, wisdom and logic.



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    « Reply #5 on: January 12, 2016, 09:37:13 AM »
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  • There must be about 6 minutes missing from this recording.

    The other thread starts with a transcript from minute 49 and this ends at 45.

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    « Reply #6 on: January 12, 2016, 11:38:26 AM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
    There must be about 6 minutes missing from this recording.

    The other thread starts with a transcript from minute 49 and this ends at 45.



    pablo the Amateur Exorcist wouldn't cut, splice, strategically "edit" video, would he?

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    « Reply #7 on: January 12, 2016, 03:48:07 PM »
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  • Took total Youtube file and deleted beginning Mass and noise to beginning of sermon and all after end of sermon so about 45 min of actual talk converted to mp3 and posted. None of sermon missing.
     


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    « Reply #8 on: January 12, 2016, 09:49:08 PM »
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  • Quote from: sea leopard
    Took total Youtube file and deleted beginning Mass and noise to beginning of sermon and all after end of sermon so about 45 min of actual talk converted to mp3 and posted. None of sermon missing.
     


    Except that which was missing in the youtube video, which does cut out at least once.
    "If I could only make the faithful sing the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei ... that would be to me the finest triumph sacred music could have, for it is in really taking part in the liturgy that the faithful will preserve their devotion. I would take the Tantum ...

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    « Reply #9 on: January 13, 2016, 12:58:38 AM »
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  • Has someone already made a brief transcript?

    Does Fr. Pfeiffer still hold that A.B. Moran is valid?
    Lord have mercy.

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    « Reply #10 on: January 13, 2016, 01:04:21 AM »
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  • Quote from: Maria Regina
    Has someone already made a brief transcript?

    Does Fr. Pfeiffer still hold that A.B. Moran is valid?


    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Fr-Pfieffer-still-believes-Moran-to-be-a-Catholic-priest-bishop

    I transcribed the important part.
    "If I could only make the faithful sing the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei ... that would be to me the finest triumph sacred music could have, for it is in really taking part in the liturgy that the faithful will preserve their devotion. I would take the Tantum ...


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    « Reply #11 on: January 13, 2016, 01:47:28 AM »
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  • Quote from: MaterDominici
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    Has someone already made a brief transcript?

    Does Fr. Pfeiffer still hold that A.B. Moran is valid?


    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Fr-Pfieffer-still-believes-Moran-to-be-a-Catholic-priest-bishop

    I transcribed the important part.


    Thank you.
    Lord have mercy.

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    « Reply #12 on: January 13, 2016, 05:58:58 AM »
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  • Quote from: Maria Regina
    Does Fr. Pfeiffer still hold that A.B. Moran is valid?


    Essentially Fr Pfeiffer holds that:

    1.  William Moran was ordained by someone.  He can't prove who ordained him but holds up the two year incardination in Toronto as proof the ordination was Catholic.  This was in the 1970s.

    2.  Ambrose is a bishop because he was consecrated by someone, either Slippjy, the "8", or Grigori.  

    3.  Ambrose is actually a Catholic because of the Anti-Ecumenical Oath he swore at his Orthodox consecration.

    4.  Ambrose is Catholic because Ambrose said he is.  The verification went something like this:  "Hey Ambrose...you're a Catholic, right?"  "Uh, yeah."

    Fr Hewko on the other hand does NOT believe Ambrose is a Catholic.  You will find proof of this in his "apology" sermon graciously provided by the Michigan group (remember Michael Saintz?)  

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    Now, to my opinion--OLMC no longer cares if a man is Catholic, conciliar, or Orthodox; as long as he is a valid bishop they are going to use him for their needs.  Complain about Ambrose too much and they just might pull a retired Novus Ordo bishop out of their hats.

    It's interesting to note that Fr Pfeiffer, Pablo, and Greg Taylor believe Ambrose to be a Catholic.  Fr Hewko, ManuelChavez/Martin, and at least a few seminarians who communicate with the outside world do NOT believe Ambrose is Catholic.  Not much unity in that operation.  I understand the Pfeiffer family is split on Ambrose as well.

     

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